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Post by alessandra on Feb 7, 2017 14:53:04 GMT -5
No matty WTF!! You're such at bad fan!!! I'm kidding There is some similarities but not enough... He is just an awkard introvert who got on top of the world. I get what you're saying but the symptoms would have to be all the time, not very few times, or sometimes... We all saw him in interviews having regular conversations (even if had weird ones before) and being able to concentrate on the person with good eye contact (if not staring with his lovely big blue eyes), him thinking sometimes people are laughing at him to me is just insecurity, it happens to a lot of people, I don't think he is violent person in general, etc. Going back to Stat Quo interview, I agree with everyone about Em having a big ego but I don't think he is a big diva neither. When Just Blaze told him about him being off beat or something he didn't agree but came back the next day and told him he was right. It's not like he got him off his album or something. He is not on a Mariah level yet I think lol. Stat Quo said he asked for 1 million to do the song!! Maybe that's what made Em very upset... We only have one side of the story. I am sure Em has a big ego and told him "Listen to me, I know what a hit single sounds like, blabla" but for a "new comer" talking about money when two A list stars are trying to make you the next thing...knowing Em is so passionnate about hip-hop, he is a workaholic, I'm sure he doesn't like the "get money and bitches" attitude some rappers have ad thought "I could be working with another rapper willing to make it right now" Em took some time before getting any kind of money when he started with Dre and I'm pretty sure he was willing to hear and do anything Dre said. Hope I am not sounding to much like a Stan right now cuz trust me I know this man has many faults!
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Post by kat531 on Feb 7, 2017 23:42:32 GMT -5
gracelessjones, we psych majors can't help ourselves, Lol. Em is such a fascinating subject to psychoanalyze, it's pretty hard NOT to do it when the man clearly has issues and he himself claims to have all kinds of mental disorders... like OCD, PTSD, depression, Aspergers, Munchausen by Proxy, social anxiety, drug abuse, and I think he might have even said Bipolar Disorder too. Who knows. He might be telling the truth, maybe he's just diagnosed himself, or maybe he's just making it all up. With him we never know for sure. But none of this has anything to do with his No Favors verse. My poor thread, haha.
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Post by tcat on Feb 8, 2017 1:32:05 GMT -5
signs and symptoms of Asperger. Please dont yell at me lol. I am not saying he has it 100%. I am just discussing the possibility and I am bored at work. difficulty making friends of the same age, children with AS may feel more comfortable with adults or much younger children (obviously Em likes kids) engages in one-sided, long-winded conversations, without noticing if the listener is still listening or trying to change the subject (umm yes...lol) displays unusual nonverbal communication, such as lack of eye contact, few facial expressions, or awkward body postures and gestures (considering 8 mile's director said Em wouldnt look or talk to him for like an hour meeting im saying yes). does not empathize with or seems insensitive to others’ feelings and has a hard time “reading” other people or may have difficulty understanding humor (Em has a good sense of humor but I remember times when he seems confused if people are making fun of him or not). doesn’t understand the give-and-take of conversation or engage in “small talk” (yep) seems egocentric or self-absorbed (yep) may speak in a voice that is monotone, rigid, jerky or unusually fast (shade45 interviews anyone). may be extremely literal or have difficulty understanding the nuances of language, despite having a good vocabulary ( i think that fits to a T) While all children with AS are different, their unusual social skills and obsessive interests tend to set them apart from their peers. They may have in common some or all of the following symptoms: may have an intense obsession with one or two specific, narrow subjects (yep) may strongly prefer repetitive routines or rituals and becomes upset at any small changes (yep) may memorize information and facts easily, especially information related to a topic of interest (yep -serial killers, memorizing the dictionary, tv shows etc.) may have clumsy, uncoordinated movements, an odd posture or a rigid gait (idk about this one but I remember people making fun of his duck walk in 2009 hahah but I think thats just cuz of his messed up knee). may perform repetitive movements, such as hand or finger flapping (yep) may engage in violent outbursts, self-injurious behaviors, tantrums or meltdowns (yep-heard a few instances) may be hypersensitive to sensory stimulation such as light, sound, and texture (idk but remember how he puts tin foil on his windows to sleep or wears his sleeping mask and always has his headphones on when a lot of people are around..) may “day dream” or “zone out” when overstimulated (yep) I know I've said this before.....but I think Em's "problems" are related to him having a very high IQ. These behaviors you listed are also characteristics of someone who has an exceptionally high IQ. They are highly intelligent but emotionally immature. Here are common traits. Em may not have all of them, but he has most. They are similar to the ones you guys have been talking about. I think they all overlap at some point. Cognition **********• original, unusual ideas, creativity, connects seemingly unrelated ideas ******* superior abilities to reason, generalize or problem solve, high intelligence ****** vivid and rich imagination ****** extensive vocabulary, verbal ability, fascinated by words ***** learns new things rapidly ***** excellent long term memory **** grasps mathematical/scientific concepts readily, advanced comprehension, insightful **** avid reader. *** complex and deep thoughts, abstract thinker ** runs mind on multiple tracks at the same time, fast thinker Perception/emotion******* highly sensitive *******• excellent/unusual sense of humour ******• very perceptive, good sense of observation *****• passionate, intense feelings, impulsive, emotions are to the extreme ***• sensitive to small changes in environment *** introverted **• aware of things that others are not, perceive world differently **• tolerance for ambiguity & complexity ** can see many sides, considers problems from a number of viewpoints *• childlike sense of wonder Motivation/values********** perfectionistic, sets high standards for self and others *********• very curious, desire to know ********• very independent, autonomous, less motivated by rewards and praise *******• seeker of ultimate truths, looks for patterns, meaning in life ******* enjoys challenge, penchant for risk-taking ******• outrage at injustice or moral breaches, good sense of justice ****• wide range of interests, overwhelmed by many interests and abilities ****• strong moral convictions, integrity, honesty ****• high drive **• visionary, realizes visions, sense of destiny or mission ** loves ideas and ardent discussion • sincerity Activity******* great deal of energy ******• long attention span, sustains concentration on topics of interest, persistent **** cannot stop thinking, work myself to exhaustion ***• needs periods of contemplation, solitude • spontaneity Social relations*********• questions rules or authority, asks embarrassing questions, non-conforming *******• feels different, out of step with others, sense of alienation and loneliness *****• very compassionate ****• empathy: feels along with others, helps them understand themselves
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Post by kat531 on Feb 8, 2017 8:03:14 GMT -5
Could we please talk about Em's verse ITT?
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Post by stefanie on Feb 8, 2017 9:17:04 GMT -5
Could we please talk about Em's verse ITT?
It's slowly growing on my. Liked his style between his comeback and MMLP2 better so.
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Post by alessandra on Feb 8, 2017 10:23:44 GMT -5
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Post by tcat on Feb 9, 2017 9:51:31 GMT -5
I checked the Billboard 100 and this song isn't even in the top 100. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it will show up next week since it hasn't been out a week? But I was shocked I couldn't find it. I guess I will wait until next week and see if it shows up.
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Post by Admin on Feb 10, 2017 1:18:04 GMT -5
I checked the Billboard 100 and this song isn't even in the top 100. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it will show up next week since it hasn't been out a week? But I was shocked I couldn't find it. I guess I will wait until next week and see if it shows up. The music week is now Friday thru Thursday, so I don't think charts are posted until the weekend.
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Post by tcat on Feb 10, 2017 2:30:31 GMT -5
I checked the Billboard 100 and this song isn't even in the top 100. Maybe I'm reading it wrong and it will show up next week since it hasn't been out a week? But I was shocked I couldn't find it. I guess I will wait until next week and see if it shows up. The music week is now Friday thru Thursday, so I don't think charts are posted until the weekend. Ok, thanks!
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Post by ludka on Feb 10, 2017 16:04:23 GMT -5
No matty WTF!! You're such at bad fan!!! I'm kidding There is some similarities but not enough... He is just an awkard introvert who got on top of the world. I get what you're saying but the symptoms would have to be all the time, not very few times, or sometimes... We all saw him in interviews having regular conversations (even if had weird ones before) and being able to concentrate on the person with good eye contact (if not staring with his lovely big blue eyes), him thinking sometimes people are laughing at him to me is just insecurity, it happens to a lot of people, I don't think he is violent person in general, etc. Going back to Stat Quo interview, I agree with everyone about Em having a big ego but I don't think he is a big diva neither. When Just Blaze told him about him being off beat or something he didn't agree but came back the next day and told him he was right. It's not like he got him off his album or something. He is not on a Mariah level yet I think lol. Stat Quo said he asked for 1 million to do the song!! Maybe that's what made Em very upset... We only have one side of the story. I am sure Em has a big ego and told him "Listen to me, I know what a hit single sounds like, blabla" but for a "new comer" talking about money when two A list stars are trying to make you the next thing...knowing Em is so passionnate about hip-hop, he is a workaholic, I'm sure he doesn't like the "get money and bitches" attitude some rappers have ad thought "I could be working with another rapper willing to make it right now" Em took some time before getting any kind of money when he started with Dre and I'm pretty sure he was willing to hear and do anything Dre said. Hope I am not sounding to much like a Stan right now cuz trust me I know this man has many faults! I agree with you. I think Sat Quo was the one acting stubborn and immature. Try to look at it from Em's perspective. Em was the one trying to sell Stat to his huge disperse worldwide audience and let's face it. Stat wouldn't be able to grab the attention of such a massive audience on his own. He would have never received the exposure he received simply by being associated with Em regardless of his talent. He got nothing to lose, he could only gain and he should have listened the one who was eager to give him a chance. Who does know this audience better than Em himself? Unlike Stat, he has years and years of results to back up his opinion. No wonder Em got pissed,considering the way he became big. Artistic freedom or not, can you imagine what would have happened if Em refused to do the cheezy first single? We all know he didn't like My Name Is but he did it. He respected Dre and the people from the label enough to follow their lead. He trusted their experience and knowledge when it came to breaking into the mainstream. It's true he compromised his artistic freedom but it paid off and eventually brought him way more artistic freedom and possibilities than he ever had at the end. What would have happened if he had told Dre to give him 1 million and then he would do My Name Is? If Em had said that, I don't think this board would even exist now. Maybe Em remembered how much he was grateful that out of so many people Dre gave him a chance and maybe he felt like it would be waste of time and energy by trying to push somebody who clearly didn't trust him. And maybe he already could see the huge ego in the making, knowing it would eventually bring even more drama into his life, something he didn't need.
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Post by GG102 on Feb 10, 2017 20:40:54 GMT -5
Let's not forget that EM didn't make a plug nickel on "My Name Is..." It may have launched his career, but the rhythm track was sampled (without permission) from Labi Siffre's 1975 song "I Got The..." Eminem made lyric changes and when Siffre sued Dre, EM, and everyone else a deal was struck and Siffre cleared the sample. EM, Interscope and Aftermath gave up any and all claim to "My Name Is..." And Siffre lived financially happy and every after!
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Post by GG102 on Feb 10, 2017 21:08:03 GMT -5
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Post by dmx on Feb 10, 2017 23:42:58 GMT -5
Let's not forget that EM didn't make a plug nickel on "My Name Is..." It may have launched his career, but the rhythm track was sampled (without permission) from Labi Siffre's 1975 song "I Got The..." Eminem made lyric changes and when Siffre sued Dre, EM, and everyone else a deal was struck and Siffre cleared the sample. EM, Interscope and Aftermath gave up any and all claim to "My Name Is..." And Siffre lived financially happy and every after! also Jay-Z sampled it again later (forgot the song name) ... so this guy benefited again .... he was homosexual, so he made Em change the famous "the only problem my teacher was a guy" line
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Post by ludka on Feb 11, 2017 6:19:21 GMT -5
Let's not forget that EM didn't make a plug nickel on "My Name Is..." It may have launched his career, but the rhythm track was sampled (without permission) from Labi Siffre's 1975 song "I Got The..." Eminem made lyric changes and when Siffre sued Dre, EM, and everyone else a deal was struck and Siffre cleared the sample. EM, Interscope and Aftermath gave up any and all claim to "My Name Is..." And Siffre lived financially happy and every after! LOL It was a fair deal I guess.
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Post by GG102 on Feb 11, 2017 9:19:18 GMT -5
Let's not forget that EM didn't make a plug nickel on "My Name Is..." It may have launched his career, but the rhythm track was sampled (without permission) from Labi Siffre's 1975 song "I Got The..." Eminem made lyric changes and when Siffre sued Dre, EM, and everyone else a deal was struck and Siffre cleared the sample. EM, Interscope and Aftermath gave up any and all claim to "My Name Is..." And Siffre lived financially happy and every after! also Jay-Z sampled it again later (forgot the song name) ... so this guy benefited again .... he was homosexual, so he made Em change the famous "the only problem my teacher was a guy" line Jay-Z sampled the song on "Streets Is Watching." And Miquel on "Kaleidoscope Dream." Not to mention about 21 other artists sampled Labi's song as well. But it was Shaquille O'Neal feat. Method Man and RZA in 1994 who sampled it first on "No Hook," followed by Jay-Z in 1997. And there were 4 others before EM came on the scene. www.whosampled.com/Labi-Siffre/I-Got-The.../sampled/
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