Shady Business & Affiliates Thread

[matty]

People just gonna ignore Admin post huh?

But also lol

[matty]

Perhaps we can move everything here:

shadysyndicate.proboards.com/thread/242/politics-discussion

Ur girl needs her space to hate on Royce tbh

[tcat]

Aug 6, 2021 12:27:51 GMT -5 matty said:

Perhaps we can move everything here:

shadysyndicate.proboards.com/thread/242/politics-discussion

Ur girl needs her space to hate on Royce tbh

lol. That literally made me laugh out loud.


I guess this discussion should be moved to politic-discussion.  Guess I didn't realize that thread existed.

[matty]

I kind of hope royce disses Lupe/Mickey again

Because I have feeling Lupe will then go IN and leak some shit about Royce that Royce doesn’t want the public to know. The line from Mickey abojt Royce running from something is intriguing the shit out of me

That might be one of the reasons Royce is scared to strike back because lord he seemed shooked

[matty]

Alright caution - Matty is about to go into her tin foil hat conspiracy shit time. So if you hate reaching and frightening deductive reasoning I would pass on this post lol


I am really starting to wonder if the reason Royce is still involved with Paul and Shady Records is because he knows something about Em mental health. And the more I have been researching and following royce the more I believe he legit would say something out of anger. After I witnessed and watched everything unfold with Lupe/Mickey it is crazy how he makes his own narrative and gets angry/offended so quickly. It really threw me off. Like before this I knew he was sketchy and not trustworthy. But I guess watching his actions in real time made me realize how off this dude is while everything else was more research and interviews from him and others.

And why I think it might have to do with Em's mental health is that he has already made some comments about Em's psyche. One time that stick to mind is when lupe and royce were doing a live stream prior to starting their podcast. Royce was talking about going to Kanye's ranch recently and said all the weird things that happened (he didn't end up writing anything for Kanye which I am not surprised - (royce is a good rapper but as an artist I think he is boring and unforgettable as a baked potato and his flow is the same for EVERY beat - it legit drives me crazy). Plus I think Kanye is still low key mad at him for stealing that beat. But anyway he was talking about how everything was set up and who was there and then he mentioned a weird encounter he had with Kanye in the studio. And he compared that to an encounter with Em and he was like "it made me wonder if they are both similar...like is Em like Kanye??" Which we all know the reputation and mental health issues Kanye has (ps I love kanye so this is no dig on him - he is brilliant like Em imo just differently). And usually all their lives went online soon after and so I looked for it and found it and included that part but I swear guys like 2-3 days later the live was still there but it was reuploaded in parts and missing that part. I don't necessarily think Paul got wind of it or anything (Royce does so many lives there is no way Paul or anyone on their team would keep up) but I wonder if Royce got it taken down cuz he realized what he said went too far.

Then he said something on a podcast saying that Em is the "most unique person he knows and goes dark" and also called Em and Wayne sounded like two crazy people which I know might be a stretch because I guess he was talking about fame but IDK it pissed me off because it came off very dismissive and disrespectful imo.

I don't think Royce knows Em's exact diagnosis (if he even has one) but I do think he knows enough that something is off and enough to make things bad for Em. And I am not even saying that Royce would even do it for revenge but I could see him throwing another temper tantrum because he wasn't getting attention from Em and going on a intsalive and letting something slip either on purpose or by accident. The way he twists things and changes the narrative to bring others down when he is jealous or feeling self conscious is mind blowing. He legit flat out lies or demeans grown ass 40 year old men. Even his fans are realizing how fucked he is. And I SWEAR guys he started all of this drama because he saw Em in LA with Dre and since he wasn't invited he started drama hoping to getting Em's attention and Pauls. Because several times afterward he said on his podcast "no one called me and asked if I was OKAY!" And legit the next day Denaun defended royce on instragram so u know he pouted to him. And then after the Mickey diss he mad that comment about being disappointed in crook, los, Joell and EM for not jumping in a song and even though he said he was joking about Em you KNOW a lot of truth is said in jest.

Anyway I am wondering if Paul is sensing something similar and tries to keep royce happy so things don't escalate. I also think he might feel partially guilty because he convinced Em to sign SH and obviously it blew up in Em's face so he is extra cautious now - hence the gag order he pretty much put on Joe. Its just crazy to me that Paul basically spent 2020 helping Royce get a Grammy nom (half the reason he got it was his charity work and I am sure being on the MMLP foundation board helped a lot) and originally his album was supposed to come out earlier but then last min they pushed it back to just enough to be eligible for 2020 grammy noms...coincicece I think not. Plus alchemist also got a nomination? 2 shady affiliated artists? Don't tell me that was a coincidence. Plus I think Em low key knew they neither were going to win because he started praising Nas a lot around the nom and Nas added Alfred's Theme on his playlist. Then Em said something like "even if they don't win a grammy nom is amazing!" or something to that effect. And then Em and Nas collabed? hmmmmmmmmmm lol- Dont tell me there wasn't business moves with the whole grammy situation. Im am sure Paul is on the board or knows enough ppl on the board lol.

Idk I am just scared man. I mean what if Joe found something out while he was sniffing around Em for those years and Paul is trying to convince Royce to keep Joes mouth shut? IDK so many possibilities. The more and more I research it the more I am convinced that Em suffers from some form of mental illness. And if that's true I swear Royce or Joe would be the one who would blow it. 

But yeah I just wanted to get this out lol. I hope this makes sense.

[snootchy]

What makes you think there is some big dark secret? Couldn't it maybe just be a weird "friendship" (however close they may be) between two difficult people? Seems like Royce is a bit of an egotistical asshole and Em's weird behaviour might just be an easy target when Royce starts ranting or oversharing? Just guessing here, I really don't know anything about the two or their history.

[tcat]

Aug 9, 2021 5:05:05 GMT -5 matty said:

Alright caution - Matty is about to go into her tin foil hat conspiracy shit time. So if you hate reaching and frightening deductive reasoning I would pass on this post lol


I am really starting to wonder if the reason Royce is still involved with Paul and Shady Records is because he knows something about Em mental health. And the more I have been researching and following royce the more I believe he legit would say something out of anger. After I witnessed and watched everything unfold with Lupe/Mickey it is crazy how he makes his own narrative and gets angry/offended so quickly. It really threw me off. Like before this I knew he was sketchy and not trustworthy. But I guess watching his actions in real time made me realize how off this dude is while everything else was more research and interviews from him and others.

And why I think it might have to do with Em's mental health is that he has already made some comments about Em's psyche. One time that stick to mind is when lupe and royce were doing a live stream prior to starting their podcast. Royce was talking about going to Kanye's ranch recently and said all the weird things that happened (he didn't end up writing anything for Kanye which I am not surprised - (royce is a good rapper but as an artist I think he is boring and unforgettable as a baked potato and his flow is the same for EVERY beat - it legit drives me crazy). Plus I think Kanye is still low key mad at him for stealing that beat. But anyway he was talking about how everything was set up and who was there and then he mentioned a weird encounter he had with Kanye in the studio. And he compared that to an encounter with Em and he was like "it made me wonder if they are both similar...like is Em like Kanye??" Which we all know the reputation and mental health issues Kanye has (ps I love kanye so this is no dig on him - he is brilliant like Em imo just differently). And usually all their lives went online soon after and so I looked for it and found it and included that part but I swear guys like 2-3 days later the live was still there but it was reuploaded in parts and missing that part. I don't necessarily think Paul got wind of it or anything (Royce does so many lives there is no way Paul or anyone on their team would keep up) but I wonder if Royce got it taken down cuz he realized what he said went too far.

Then he said something on a podcast saying that Em is the "most unique person he knows and goes dark" and also called Em and Wayne sounded like two crazy people which I know might be a stretch because I guess he was talking about fame but IDK it pissed me off because it came off very dismissive and disrespectful imo.

I don't think Royce knows Em's exact diagnosis (if he even has one) but I do think he knows enough that something is off and enough to make things bad for Em. And I am not even saying that Royce would even do it for revenge but I could see him throwing another temper tantrum because he wasn't getting attention from Em and going on a intsalive and letting something slip either on purpose or by accident. The way he twists things and changes the narrative to bring others down when he is jealous or feeling self conscious is mind blowing. He legit flat out lies or demeans grown ass 40 year old men. Even his fans are realizing how fucked he is. And I SWEAR guys he started all of this drama because he saw Em in LA with Dre and since he wasn't invited he started drama hoping to getting Em's attention and Pauls. Because several times afterward he said on his podcast "no one called me and asked if I was OKAY!" And legit the next day Denaun defended royce on instragram so u know he pouted to him. And then after the Mickey diss he mad that comment about being disappointed in crook, los, Joell and EM for not jumping in a song and even though he said he was joking about Em you KNOW a lot of truth is said in jest.

Anyway I am wondering if Paul is sensing something similar and tries to keep royce happy so things don't escalate. I also think he might feel partially guilty because he convinced Em to sign SH and obviously it blew up in Em's face so he is extra cautious now - hence the gag order he pretty much put on Joe. Its just crazy to me that Paul basically spent 2020 helping Royce get a Grammy nom (half the reason he got it was his charity work and I am sure being on the MMLP foundation board helped a lot) and originally his album was supposed to come out earlier but then last min they pushed it back to just enough to be eligible for 2020 grammy noms...coincicece I think not. Plus alchemist also got a nomination? 2 shady affiliated artists? Don't tell me that was a coincidence. Plus I think Em low key knew they neither were going to win because he started praising Nas a lot around the nom and Nas added Alfred's Theme on his playlist. Then Em said something like "even if they don't win a grammy nom is amazing!" or something to that effect. And then Em and Nas collabed? hmmmmmmmmmm lol- Dont tell me there wasn't business moves with the whole grammy situation. Im am sure Paul is on the board or knows enough ppl on the board lol.

Idk I am just scared man. I mean what if Joe found something out while he was sniffing around Em for those years and Paul is trying to convince Royce to keep Joes mouth shut? IDK so many possibilities. The more and more I research it the more I am convinced that Em suffers from some form of mental illness. And if that's true I swear Royce or Joe would be the one who would blow it. 

But yeah I just wanted to get this out lol. I hope this makes sense.

But anyway he was talking about how everything was set up and who was there and then he mentioned a weird encounter he had with Kanye in the studio. And he compared that to an encounter with Em and he was like "it made me wonder if they are both similar...like is Em like Kanye??"

What was the encounter and why would Kanye have Royce up at his ranch?

I don't know if Em struggles with mental illness.  Like I said before, highly intelligent and gifted people do normally suffer from some type of mental illness, so it would not be surprising.  It wasn't surprising when Kanye announced he was bipolar.  Also, if Em is mentally ill and it became public, I don't think it would affect his career.  It hasn't affected Kanye's and look at the crazy shit he did on Twitter.  It ruined his marriage, but hasn't affected his career, music or design, at all.  

I think Royce is a very vindictive person and they keep him in the circle to keep him from lashing out.  It's not just that Royce would tell Em's business, I could see him making stuff up to try and damage his career or in an effort to lash out at Em.  Dude is seriously twisted.  As long as they keep him happy, he doesn't lash out but the minute they cut him out, he will go on a rampage.  I can totally see him doing that.  

Also, I have always thought Royce had something to do with Em's songs that leaked, like the one about Rhianna and the one with P. Diddy and Revolt.  At the time both of those came out, I thought Royce probably had something to do with it.  I also thought it could have been Paul.  I don't like Paul either because he strikes me as a overbearing, control freak.  He also seems to be the type that will go create problems so he can then "save the day" and justify his position in Em's life.  I might be wrong, but that is the vibe I get from him.

"no one called me and asked if I was OKAY!"

I don't totally get this here...why would he expect someone to ask if he was ok?  I don't get the point he was making?  Is it because they didn't consult with him or ask him to participate?  Does he think he is entitled to be involved with all of Em's work projects?

[doubletrouble]

I think the Royce/Lupe and Mickey beef might be a move to get Em's attention, too. I found it weird that Royce said "I don't know if Marshall is aware of this". Why would he care about that unless he's fishing for his attention? He seems like a crybaby.

There's also a possibility that those song were leaked by Royce, especially the one with Rihanna. And I say this because Rihanna and Em had a great relationship (I even got the impression that Em had a crush on her) and Royce was jealous of that because he liked Rihanna. I remember reading that after Rihanna began her relationship with that billionaire bf Royce said he was jealous or something like that. So it wouldn't be so crazy to think Royce tried to destroy the relationship Em and Rih had.

Other than that, I believe there's a lot about Em to be hidden. I was personally afraid that Snoop would say something that he shouldn't too because he really seemed mad in that live where he shared a snippet of the supposed "diss" after Em came at him. He said "that n**** better leave me the f alone" and he tried to suggest that Em's numbers for Curtain Call were fake. Who knows what else he could have exposed.

[matty]

I could see Royce leaking that shit

The timeline matches up and would explain why Royce barely goes to Ems studio anymore and had to get his own

I remember during a shade45 interview for bme em was discussing take from me and he goes “is there anything else you would like to add to this Ryan?” Or something to that affect and u can tell there was a bit of tension and Royce was like “nope!”

And I know Royce used to frequent the site where the song was leaked. He would DM the mods

[sparrow]

Aug 9, 2021 16:25:51 GMT -5 matty said:

I could see Royce leaking that shit

The timeline matches up and would explain why Royce barely goes to Ems studio anymore and had to get his own

I remember during a shade45 interview for bme em was discussing take from me and he goes “is there anything else you would like to add to this Ryan?” Or something to that affect and u can tell there was a bit of tension and Royce was like “nope!”

And I know Royce used to frequent the site where the song was leaked. He would DM the mods

I vaguely recall thinking he did at the time. He was the only new person in the circle. Tight with Paul...BME had just happened so he could have said why would he fuck that up by leaking stuff and they may have bought it.

Idk. Somebody leaked it and whoever it was had a lot of access to Em at the time.

[doubletrouble]

Aug 9, 2021 16:25:51 GMT -5 matty said:

I could see Royce leaking that shit

The timeline matches up and would explain why Royce barely goes to Ems studio anymore and had to get his own

I remember during a shade45 interview for bme em was discussing take from me and he goes “is there anything else you would like to add to this Ryan?” Or something to that affect and u can tell there was a bit of tension and Royce was like “nope!”

And I know Royce used to frequent the site where the song was leaked. He would DM the mods

Boy, Royce is toxic.

[matty]

Today should be a national holiday

I can’t believe Em agreed to work with this goon. Dude had beef with pretty much everyone in the industry

[matty]

See crook acts so loyal to Em but then says things like this. Yes he didn’t diss Ems verse…but he pretty music eluding that he did not like it

I’m so scared these mofos are going to cut down Ems self esteem and slither back in making him think he isn’t good enough without all the rappity rap cling ons.

[matty]

Okay one more theory cuz I just want to say it out loud so I can come back and see if I’m right.

So I’ve been noticing Royce has been bigging up Tory lanez lately at really random as Fuck times. It reminded me when he did similar things with that fool Tom Macdonald. He’d randomly start bringing him up and then like his posts and then a month later bam we have the weird nft thing

Now we have Charlemagne dissing Em and Torrey jumping to Ems defense while Royce is co-signing Tory to get the stans intrigued with him and not being shocked when Em works with him 
southpawers.com/2021/08/13/tory-lanez-eminem-charlamagne-verzuz/amp/

I swear SH and their goons have some kind of money scheme surrounding em. I think Royce hooks up with some of these ppl that want to work with em or get his attention. They give Royce something like money or a verse. They stir up controversy about Em so they can all jump to Ems saving grace and Em notices them and Royce convinces Paul to have Em work with them or Royce gives tom the heads up about the nft so he can create a song even prior to it dropping and Em is just oblivious.

This morning the killshot video was taken down and was out back up an hour. Or so later and this is what crook said. I swear he is trying to paint the narrative that everyone is trying to defend Em when I swear they probably started this shit 

I think SH is pissy as Fuck that Em isn’t paying attention to them and isn’t  name dropping them as much as he used to so now they are resorting to this shit. By the way charlamgen and joe and Royce have been close before. It would benefit all of them. Charlamgen thrives off controversy. Think about it. Em ain’t giving SH attention. What does Em love more than anything? Loyalty. Over the past few years SH has shown how disloyal they are and I think Em is catching on (between the joe thing, the Royce and snoop thing etc) so Em distances himself. Welp!! How can they get back in Ems graces?

By creating a narrative that they defending Em from charlamaign and also throwing in Tory lanez so Royce can probably get money off the connection to Em.

And on TOP of that they keep teasing that SH might get back together. Yet of course Em isn’t involved but let’s face it. SH ain’t gonna sell shit without Em fans. So yeah they needs Ems support.

I know I sound crazy but it really ducking adds up dude. I am just waiting to see what joe says on his dying podcast tomorrow and if he mentions the Charlemagne thing and tries to play nice to Em.


Shits nuts

Also sorry for the horrible spelling errors. I’m on my phone at work and half my phone is messed up so it’s hard to type. I’m ordering a new phone this week lol.

I’ll edit the errors and add in proof when I get home but I just needed to get this off my chest

[matty]

Y’all I just noticed this and it’s cracking my shit up

50 legit cropped crook out of this pic lmaoooo. His petty ass. He is so possessive if Em. even his stance with his arm held like that is cracking me up