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Post by GG102 on May 19, 2016 8:28:10 GMT -5
I agree they all tried to make a bank run on Em, but he did become famous by writing songs about his mom and his ex-wife, so you could argue that he exploited them as much as they exploited him. Think about it, if you are with some guy that becomes rich and famous by writing horrible songs about you and then calls you out as some kind of traitor if you even speak about him in public. Would you find that fair? why is Em the only one allowed to use them for money and fame? I get your point and I agree partly, he used his wife and mom in his music and got famous for it, and yeah, I guess he had something coming, but that doesn't explain why his grandmother starts making and selling t-shirts with his pic and name, and make money off of that, or why she wanted money out of him. When did he ever mention her? That doesn't explain why his uncle makes a documentary about him, talking about his private business. When did he ever mention him? That doesn't explain why his aunt and uncle had him buy them a house, pay for all the furniture and then pay them "salary" to live in the house, and then they sue him when he stopped paying for them. When did he mention them? And it doesn't explain why his ex-wife's cousin all of a sudden falls head over heals in love with him when he starts making money, and divorces her husband to be with him and then writes a tell all book when he didn't want the same as her… And what about his dad? Kim's parents? He didn't deserve all that. Marshall Mathers wouldn't be "Eminem" if he didn't have personal shit to spit. No matter how much hardship EM has had in his life, and more than most!, that anger is what fuels him. Yeah, sure he wrote a lot of derogatory songs about the women in his life, but that's how he vents. And, from what we've all read and seen in the tabloids, EMs got a cross to bear and will probably take that cross to his grave. |
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Post by tcat on May 19, 2016 8:47:19 GMT -5
I agree they all tried to make a bank run on Em, but he did become famous by writing songs about his mom and his ex-wife, so you could argue that he exploited them as much as they exploited him. Think about it, if you are with some guy that becomes rich and famous by writing horrible songs about you and then calls you out as some kind of traitor if you even speak about him in public. Would you find that fair? why is Em the only one allowed to use them for money and fame? I get your point and I agree partly, he used his wife and mom in his music and got famous for it, and yeah, I guess he had something coming, but that doesn't explain why his grandmother starts making and selling t-shirts with his pic and name, and make money off of that, or why she wanted money out of him. When did he ever mention her? That doesn't explain why his uncle makes a documentary about him, talking about his private business. When did he ever mention him? That doesn't explain why his aunt and uncle had him buy them a house, pay for all the furniture and then pay them "salary" to live in the house, and then they sue him when he stopped paying for them. When did he mention them? And it doesn't explain why his ex-wife's cousin all of a sudden falls head over heals in love with him when he starts making money, and divorces her husband to be with him and then writes a tell all book when he didn't want the same as her… And what about his dad? Kim's parents? He didn't deserve all that. I agree with you on the aunt, uncle and grandma and all the others. I'm sure it hurt to have those family members sell him out, but it seemed to cut deeper with Debbie and Kim. Em seemed to be more upset with his mom and Kim and the things they said about him. That's why he kept writing songs about them. It became a vicious cycle. That is mainly who I was talking about. |
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Post by tcat on May 19, 2016 8:51:46 GMT -5
What about his dad? All I know is that he did an interview for a magazine saying he wanted Em to call him or something and the half sister drama..and I do not know about Kim's parents, what about them?all I know is they don't like Em. Em has been in contact with his dad's aunt his entire life until she died in 2009. Em said his dad used to call her while Em was there but he never wanted to talk to EM or even know about him. Then Bruce sees Em on TV and realizes he's famous and THEN he tries to reach out. Why then? He had 26 years before that… He was talking on the phone to a person standing next to Em, it can't have been that hard to find him if he was trying? I'm not sure about Kim's parent because we only have Em's word on that, but apparently they wanted money from him too. And didn't Kim's mom also give interviews about him. At least she has always been quick to call the press when there was something she could get a story out of. Not to dig up old stuff about Em and his kids but like Em arguing with his daughter because she was rude to him and hung up on him, Kim's mom made it sound like Em broke into their house and assaulted his own kid. That whole story was so blown out of proportion. Or what about her giving that interview 2-3 years ago saying they were getting back together and that he was building a house for Kim? Kim is even more private than Em and clearly doesn't want the world knowing her business. I wonder how she felt about her mom talking to the press about her..... or maybe she was in on it and it was some kind of manipulative ploy, like maybe Em was seeing someone else and Kim was trying to get in between that? That thought did cross my mind at the time. |
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 19, 2016 9:25:30 GMT -5
Em has been in contact with his dad's aunt his entire life until she died in 2009. Em said his dad used to call her while Em was there but he never wanted to talk to EM or even know about him. Then Bruce sees Em on TV and realizes he's famous and THEN he tries to reach out. Why then? He had 26 years before that… He was talking on the phone to a person standing next to Em, it can't have been that hard to find him if he was trying? I'm not sure about Kim's parent because we only have Em's word on that, but apparently they wanted money from him too. And didn't Kim's mom also give interviews about him. At least she has always been quick to call the press when there was something she could get a story out of. Not to dig up old stuff about Em and his kids but like Em arguing with his daughter because she was rude to him and hung up on him, Kim's mom made it sound like Em broke into their house and assaulted his own kid. That whole story was so blown out of proportion. Or what about her giving that interview 2-3 years ago saying they were getting back together and that he was building a house for Kim? Kim is even more private than Em and clearly doesn't want the world knowing her business. I wonder how she felt about her mom talking to the press about her..... or maybe she was in on it and it was some kind of manipulative ploy, like maybe Em was seeing someone else and Kim was trying to get in between that? That thought did cross my mind at the time. That is a interesting thought Tcat. I was thinking something similar with the whole DUI possible suicide attempt. If I remember correctly there was talk on the other board around that time that Em seemed to be happier maybe he had found someone. Of course then we didn't' know about Kim's incident. Kim really intrigues me, I mean we basically hear nothing about or from her for almost 10 years then she comes out of nowhere complaining her family can't do anything without the media involved. The DUI story probably would have never left Detroit and hit mainstream media if she hadn't did the interview with Mojo about it. I am not trying to bash Kim at all, I think she is a very admirable woman, she has taken in her sister's daughter and for all appearances did a great job with her! She really hasn't sold out Em the way she could, I mean she did those interviews but nothing like a tell all book or joining some "wives of " show like some ex-wives have done. A part of me still thinks she can be very manipulative when it comes to Marshall though, like she enjoys having the power of being the only woman he will ever truly love, and plays on that when needed. |
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Post by me on May 19, 2016 9:35:49 GMT -5
I get your point and I agree partly, he used his wife and mom in his music and got famous for it, and yeah, I guess he had something coming, but that doesn't explain why his grandmother starts making and selling t-shirts with his pic and name, and make money off of that, or why she wanted money out of him. When did he ever mention her? That doesn't explain why his uncle makes a documentary about him, talking about his private business. When did he ever mention him? That doesn't explain why his aunt and uncle had him buy them a house, pay for all the furniture and then pay them "salary" to live in the house, and then they sue him when he stopped paying for them. When did he mention them? And it doesn't explain why his ex-wife's cousin all of a sudden falls head over heals in love with him when he starts making money, and divorces her husband to be with him and then writes a tell all book when he didn't want the same as her… And what about his dad? Kim's parents? He didn't deserve all that. I agree with you on the aunt, uncle and grandma and all the others. I'm sure it hurt to have those family members sell him out, but it seemed to cut deeper with Debbie and Kim. Em seemed to be more upset with his mom and Kim and the things they said about him. That's why he kept writing songs about them. It became a vicious cycle. That is mainly who I was talking about. Yeah, I understood what you meant, and I have to say, Kim didn't say a word really before like 2006 about Em. And I can understand her frustration back then, so my guess that was her way to hurt him back. So it's not like Em can afford to say anything about that. Then with Debbie it's interesting. Yeah, he made songs about her, but I still don't think they were as bad as the songs about Kim, but what I find a bit interesting is the whole lawsuit from Debbie. How she afterwards claims it was her lawyer who sued him and she didn't even know about it. The lawsuit was going on for like 3 years or something according to her own book. And she really couldn't stop it even tho she wanted to?? She had no idea she sued him before he called and asked her about it? Really? Why not pull it back then? Why go through with it for 2-3 years? I really doubt there was no way she couldn't abort the whole thing? Just sounds so weird to me lol! |
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Post by tcat on May 19, 2016 9:59:06 GMT -5
Or what about her giving that interview 2-3 years ago saying they were getting back together and that he was building a house for Kim? Kim is even more private than Em and clearly doesn't want the world knowing her business. I wonder how she felt about her mom talking to the press about her..... or maybe she was in on it and it was some kind of manipulative ploy, like maybe Em was seeing someone else and Kim was trying to get in between that? That thought did cross my mind at the time. That is a interesting thought Tcat. I was thinking something similar with the whole DUI possible suicide attempt. If I remember correctly there was talk on the other board around that time that Em seemed to be happier maybe he had found someone. Of course then we didn't' know about Kim's incident. Kim really intrigues me, I mean we basically hear nothing about or from her for almost 10 years then she comes out of nowhere complaining her family can't do anything without the media involved. The DUI story probably would have never left Detroit and hit mainstream media if she hadn't did the interview with Mojo about it. I am not trying to bash Kim at all, I think she is a very admirable woman, she has taken in her sister's daughter and for all appearances did a great job with her! She really hasn't sold out Em the way she could, I mean she did those interviews but nothing like a tell all book or joining some "wives of " show like some ex-wives have done. A part of me still thinks she can be very manipulative when it comes to Marshall though, like she enjoys having the power of being the only woman he will ever truly love, and plays on that when needed. I also had the same thought when the DUI and attempted suicide thing happened. Maybe she isn't the only woman he will ever truly love. She said in that interview she had no one in her life she could trust or count on but isn't she still with her son's father? In the interview she made it sound like she was all alone. I have also read in other places that her drinking and staying out at bars is not something new. Apparently, she has been drinking heavily for several years, but we never heard about it until now...so people have pretty much left her alone. |
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Post by me on May 19, 2016 10:06:51 GMT -5
That is a interesting thought Tcat. I was thinking something similar with the whole DUI possible suicide attempt. If I remember correctly there was talk on the other board around that time that Em seemed to be happier maybe he had found someone. Of course then we didn't' know about Kim's incident. Kim really intrigues me, I mean we basically hear nothing about or from her for almost 10 years then she comes out of nowhere complaining her family can't do anything without the media involved. The DUI story probably would have never left Detroit and hit mainstream media if she hadn't did the interview with Mojo about it. I am not trying to bash Kim at all, I think she is a very admirable woman, she has taken in her sister's daughter and for all appearances did a great job with her! She really hasn't sold out Em the way she could, I mean she did those interviews but nothing like a tell all book or joining some "wives of " show like some ex-wives have done. A part of me still thinks she can be very manipulative when it comes to Marshall though, like she enjoys having the power of being the only woman he will ever truly love, and plays on that when needed. I also had the same thought when the DUI and attempted suicide thing happened. Maybe she isn't the only woman he will ever truly love. She said in that interview she had no one in her life she could trust or count on but isn't she still with her son's father? In the interview she made it sound like she was all alone. I have also read in other places that her drinking and staying out at bars is not something new. Apparently, she has been drinking heavily for several years, but we never heard about it until now...so people have pretty much left her alone. I saw somewhere there were some speculations out there that she left him out to get more sympathy and make it sound like she does it all by herself, but maybe she also left him out to not draw attention to him? Idk. Maybe they're not together anymore? |
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Post by PlayMyJam on May 19, 2016 11:47:48 GMT -5
Idk, I think Kim and possibly Debbie are the only ones who have right to complain because they were trashed in his songs. But Debbie sued him so there's that. I do feel bad for Kim first and foremost, though.
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Post by cally on May 19, 2016 12:07:55 GMT -5
Sadly, I don't think Kim will be able to maintain a long lasting relationship (or anything) if she keeps getting the wrong help and I know A LOT of factors influence in her drinking, suicide attempts, her frustrating about her child and much more we don't even know. I think she's a great woman too and someone to look up for for her children and I truly wish she'd be ok. About her boyfriend or ex, must be hard for him to be in a relationship with Kim Mathers and all that is included with that plus having a child with issues too....even tho we don't even know if they really broke up
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 19, 2016 14:23:29 GMT -5
Yes having a child with special needs would put a lot of stress on a relationship I am sure. Plus it seems like Kim is basically taking care of her parents as well. I know everyone assumes that her mom lives with her to help out with the kids, but still unless she is working Kim is taking care of her. That could put a strain on a relationship as well. She has a lot going on more than the average person.
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 19, 2016 15:36:02 GMT -5
I was looking through to find more pictures to post and found this, since I mentioned it earlier   |
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Post by schmidt on May 19, 2016 16:45:59 GMT -5
What about his dad? All I know is that he did an interview for a magazine saying he wanted Em to call him or something and the half sister drama..and I do not know about Kim's parents, what about them?all I know is they don't like Em. Em has been in contact with his dad's aunt his entire life until she died in 2009. Em said his dad used to call her while Em was there but he never wanted to talk to EM or even know about him. Then Bruce sees Em on TV and realizes he's famous and THEN he tries to reach out. Why then? He had 26 years before that… He was talking on the phone to a person standing next to Em, it can't have been that hard to find him if he was trying? I'm not sure about Kim's parent because we only have Em's word on that, but apparently they wanted money from him too. And didn't Kim's mom also give interviews about him. At least she has always been quick to call the press when there was something she could get a story out of. Not to dig up old stuff about Em and his kids but like Em arguing with his daughter because she was rude to him and hung up on him, Kim's mom made it sound like Em broke into their house and assaulted his own kid. That whole story was so blown out of proportion. I remember that story about Em getting into an argument with a Alaina, and yes I am sure the story/situation was blown out of proportion. but at the same time this happened when he was at the height of his drug abuse, Em himself has even said that he wasn't pleasant to be around when he was an addict, and that he had a really short temper. I find it hard to believe that he was always a good parent when he was on drugs |
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Post by me on May 19, 2016 16:54:43 GMT -5
Em has been in contact with his dad's aunt his entire life until she died in 2009. Em said his dad used to call her while Em was there but he never wanted to talk to EM or even know about him. Then Bruce sees Em on TV and realizes he's famous and THEN he tries to reach out. Why then? He had 26 years before that… He was talking on the phone to a person standing next to Em, it can't have been that hard to find him if he was trying? I'm not sure about Kim's parent because we only have Em's word on that, but apparently they wanted money from him too. And didn't Kim's mom also give interviews about him. At least she has always been quick to call the press when there was something she could get a story out of. Not to dig up old stuff about Em and his kids but like Em arguing with his daughter because she was rude to him and hung up on him, Kim's mom made it sound like Em broke into their house and assaulted his own kid. That whole story was so blown out of proportion. I remember that story about Em getting into an argument with a Alaina, and yes I am sure the story/situation was blown out of proportion. but at the same time this happened when he was at the height of his drug abuse, Em himself has even said that he wasn't pleasant to be around when he was an addict, and that he had a really short temper. I find it hard to believe that he was always a good parent when he was on drugs Yeah, sure, that's why I said "it was sometimes before his overdose, so maybe he over reacted and I don't know what happened, but I'm sure calling the cops and the press and trying to get domestic violence on his criminal record was unnecessary." I'm not saying he didn't do or say the things they say he did, but they could've handled it more discreetly imo, and I do think the news story was blown out of proportion |
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Post by somnium on May 20, 2016 1:52:07 GMT -5
Alright, party people! Nobody cares to speculate on what kind of super power Mr. Em would have... I get it, probably gone over one hundred times in shady camp. I'm a terrible, terrible fan/stan that only turns to Eminem for purely selfish reasons.
But I'm not sure why every one is hung up on the fact that people would sell out? How many of you have actually been destitute? Like, seriously, NO options except the worst options. And maybe, the people Eminem has loved enough to rap about weren't actually "destitute", first world problems and all. But seriously, people seeing an advantage and taking it is how the human race has advanced as far as it has. And it ain't right, morally (for the greater good, n' all), most every time, but how often do desperate people worry about the greater good?...
What I'm getting at is, I hope Mr. Mathers had learned some empathy and isn't letting the betrayals bring him down. And the fact that I heard Kim call-in live to mojo has really bummed me out, (how many days/weeks since that call?) my deluded ass imagined everyone connected to Eminem was living the high life.
And where is this photo of Em wearing a sorority t-shirt? Ain't never seen that! Seriously, tell me!
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Post by somnium on May 20, 2016 1:54:29 GMT -5
I remember that story about Em getting into an argument with a Alaina, and yes I am sure the story/situation was blown out of proportion. but at the same time this happened when he was at the height of his drug abuse, Em himself has even said that he wasn't pleasant to be around when he was an addict, and that he had a really short temper. I find it hard to believe that he was always a good parent when he was on drugs Yeah, sure, that's why I said "it was sometimes before his overdose, so maybe he over reacted and I don't know what happened, but I'm sure calling the cops and the press and trying to get domestic violence on his criminal record was unnecessary." I'm not saying he didn't do or say the things they say he did, but they could've handled it more discreetly imo, and I do think the news story was blown out of proportion Fucking relplying. .. damn the mobile version posting unnecessary shit! Anyway. .. When I first heard this story years ago I also thought "blown out of proportion". My daughter still isn't old enough yet to dress provocatively, but I remember agreeing with whatever he said! |
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