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Post by kat531 on Dec 31, 2016 22:19:24 GMT -5
Do keep in mind though, that Em's performance at the Concert for Valor was pretty personal to him, as well. It could be that it took a lot out of him. Ronnie was a veteran before he took his own life. Also, he closed the show, so more than likely his voice might have been strained from maybe singing along with the previous artists. Also, he managed to be the ONLY performer at the concert who acknowledged the veterans who didn't make it home, or were no longer with us (some of that might have been in memory of Ronnie, too) but I probably remember that most of all due to my late fiance being a veteran, and it was a pretty heartfelt thing he did...it made me cry. It was probably one of my favorite performances he's ever done. I'm not so sure that was a "personal" performance for Em--or that it was emotionally draining for him. I don't think there is any evidence to make that assumption. He has always respected military personnel though, and he was the only one to acknowledge the veterans who never made it home alive... which was very touching IMO. But Em is a pro. He performed when intoxicated and high and never messed up. He's also performed with a high fever (at the 2014 Beats event), and you never would've known. He was hoarse during the performance, which got worse with each song. By the time he got to Lose Yourself, Denaun was literallly filling in every other word for him. He's performed Lose Yourself hundreds and hundreds of times. I doubt his inability to rap had anything to do with an emotional breakdown onstage.
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Post by Aria on Dec 31, 2016 22:27:34 GMT -5
I didn't mean an emotional breakdown, it wouldn't have gone that far. But I could see some of it being a bit tough on his voice after being involved with the event up until the last minute as well. I didn't really notice much of the hoarseness as others here have, but I noticed he definitely was trying to put in a lot of energy - and to me, it seemed like more energy than usual.
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Post by kat531 on Dec 31, 2016 22:34:12 GMT -5
I didn't mean an emotional breakdown, it wouldn't have gone that far. But I could see some of it being a bit tough on his voice after being involved with the event up until the last minute as well. I didn't really notice much of the hoarseness as others here have, but I noticed he definitely was trying to put in a lot of energy - and to me, it seemed like more energy than usual. I think he acted overly animated because he couldn't rap, Lol. It's like he was trying to overcompensate in some other way. Edit/ P.S. I also can't see Em singing or screaming during the other performances. He was probably backstage pumping weights or playing video games while he was waiting his turn, haha.
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Post by matty on Dec 31, 2016 22:49:53 GMT -5
i doubt Em watched the other performances. Unless it was a rapper he really liked I agree with kat531 i think Em is very conscious to his audience especially now a days and is considerate of the them. Also he seems to always want to give 1000000% no matter who it is and since he was sick he was trying to over compensate by running around more so than usual Which was probably silly on his part because he was obviously sick and running around makes you even more breathless so it couldn't help him when rapping lol
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Post by matty on Dec 31, 2016 22:55:49 GMT -5
Also is it just me or does Em seem to get sick all the time
I wonder if his immune system took a beating when he overdosed...
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Post by Aria on Dec 31, 2016 23:33:58 GMT -5
Also is it just me or does Em seem to get sick all the time I wonder if his immune system took a beating when he overdosed... Most likely, yes. Speaking from experience, the immune system once severely damaged like that, sometimes cannot go back to its "original" resistance, even with a healthy change in lifestyle. There are those who are lucky, but prolonged use even before such a severe overdose, can screw up the entire body permanently. I can no longer take any paracetamol even though my liver has returned to 100% function. The risk of it being damaged again, is pretty high since it's already been damaged. Em's organs were all damaged, and some organs, do not regenerate like the liver does (I believe it is the only organ that can do so) so some organs might have sustained permanent damage, and the immune system could be weaker as a result.
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Post by matty on Dec 31, 2016 23:46:09 GMT -5
Also is it just me or does Em seem to get sick all the time I wonder if his immune system took a beating when he overdosed... Most likely, yes. Speaking from experience, the immune system once severely damaged like that, sometimes cannot go back to its "original" resistance, even with a healthy change in lifestyle. There are those who are lucky, but prolonged use even before such a severe overdose, can screw up the entire body permanently. I can no longer take any paracetamol even though my liver has returned to 100% function. The risk of it being damaged again, is pretty high since it's already been damaged. Em's organs were all damaged, and some organs, do not regenerate like the liver does (I believe it is the only organ that can do so) so some organs might have sustained permanent damage, and the immune system could be weaker as a result. that is depressing yeah i figured that..didnt he say they were ready to put him on dialysis and he had to relearn basic motor skills and speaking skills? idk thats fucking terrifying I wondered if part of it might be pycholgical since his mom had/has munchausen syndrome and was made to think he was sick all the time. I wonder if he had trouble leaving that mind set but yeah i hope he is okay health wise. i notice his hands get swollen a lot of the times too.
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Post by kat531 on Jan 1, 2017 2:10:18 GMT -5
Most likely, yes. Speaking from experience, the immune system once severely damaged like that, sometimes cannot go back to its "original" resistance, even with a healthy change in lifestyle. There are those who are lucky, but prolonged use even before such a severe overdose, can screw up the entire body permanently. I can no longer take any paracetamol even though my liver has returned to 100% function. The risk of it being damaged again, is pretty high since it's already been damaged. Em's organs were all damaged, and some organs, do not regenerate like the liver does (I believe it is the only organ that can do so) so some organs might have sustained permanent damage, and the immune system could be weaker as a result. that is depressing yeah i figured that..didnt he say they were ready to put him on dialysis and he had to relearn basic motor skills and speaking skills? idk thats fucking terrifying I wondered if part of it might be pycholgical since his mom had/has munchausen syndrome and was made to think he was sick all the time. I wonder if he had trouble leaving that mind set but yeah i hope he is okay health wise. i notice his hands get swollen a lot of the times too. It was pretty bad. Sounds like he was on a ventilator for awhile. Kuniva and Swifty visited, saw how he was full of tubes, and were told he may not survive. Em says he was told that all his organs were shutting down. Some organ damage is reversible though. Like acute kidney failure. I've also noticed his hands looking either swollen or red as well and he does seem to get sick a fair amount. But he's also been healthy enough post-OD to be able to run 17 miles per day for awhile, rap and jump around stage for 2 hours straight during concerts, and he obviously has a very healthy lung capacity to spit songs like Rap God. I think his body did take a massive hit and he probably will suffer some lifelong damage (maybe just minor), but he certainly appears quite healthy right now.
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Post by britanny on Jan 1, 2017 8:50:14 GMT -5
Also is it just me or does Em seem to get sick all the time I wonder if his immune system took a beating when he overdosed... I wasn't even aware that he always get's sick now, is that the reason why he's always losing weight?
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Post by kat531 on Jan 1, 2017 9:14:01 GMT -5
Also is it just me or does Em seem to get sick all the time I wonder if his immune system took a beating when he overdosed... I wasn't even aware that he always get's sick now, is that the reason why he's always losing weight? He's always losing weight because he has an eating disorder (he himself has admitted to it, although he hasn't used the term specifically). But fortunately it appears he has been recovering from that over the past 1-2 years. He stopped all that crazy running on the treadmill and has put on weight. He looks so much better and healthier now.
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Post by britanny on Jan 1, 2017 10:15:17 GMT -5
I wasn't even aware that he always get's sick now, is that the reason why he's always losing weight? He's always losing weight because he has an eating disorder (he himself has admitted to it, although he hasn't used the term specifically). But fortunately it appears he has been recovering from that over the past 1-2 years. He stopped all that crazy running on the treadmill and has put on weight. He looks so much better and healthier now. Hope so, since his comeback, he always seems to gain weight and lose it again.
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Post by GG102 on Jan 1, 2017 12:31:30 GMT -5
EM seems to have a very fragile makeup. Could be a leftover psychosis from his childhood, his physical makeup, the fact that he has trouble sleeping, the drug abuse he's suffered, whatever, but he is a fragile man prone to getting sick more than most. Also, if he is on medication, he hands could swell from that or he has edema.
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Post by kat531 on Jan 1, 2017 16:28:12 GMT -5
EM seems to have a very fragile makeup. Could be a leftover psychosis from his childhood, his physical makeup, the fact that he has trouble sleeping, the drug abuse he's suffered, whatever, but he is a fragile man prone to getting sick more than most. Also, if he is on medication, he hands could swell from that or he has edema. I agree that Em is fragile in many ways, but I doubt he has psychosis (being out of touch with reality). But all the beatings (including a significant head/ brain injury) and traumas he suffered as a child (and some as an adult)--in addition to the drug addiction, OD, and wild swings in his eating patterns and weight--surely have made him vulnerable to both mental and physical health problems on an ongoing basis. He is fragile, and I'd think he needs to be very aware of his health and ensure he's taking good care of himself now. He's still quite vulnerable to falling back into depression, addictive behaviors and to physical illness. But fortunately he appears to be taking better care of himself these days.
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Post by nelly on Jan 1, 2017 21:08:48 GMT -5
Do you think he will take a jab at Mariah's disastrous performance? I know he put the subject to rest but that might be too tempting.
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Post by tcat on Jan 1, 2017 22:10:49 GMT -5
Most likely, yes. Speaking from experience, the immune system once severely damaged like that, sometimes cannot go back to its "original" resistance, even with a healthy change in lifestyle. There are those who are lucky, but prolonged use even before such a severe overdose, can screw up the entire body permanently. I can no longer take any paracetamol even though my liver has returned to 100% function. The risk of it being damaged again, is pretty high since it's already been damaged. Em's organs were all damaged, and some organs, do not regenerate like the liver does (I believe it is the only organ that can do so) so some organs might have sustained permanent damage, and the immune system could be weaker as a result. that is depressing yeah i figured that..didnt he say they were ready to put him on dialysis and he had to relearn basic motor skills and speaking skills? idk thats fucking terrifying I wondered if part of it might be pycholgical since his mom had/has munchausen syndrome and was made to think he was sick all the time. I wonder if he had trouble leaving that mind set but yeah i hope he is okay health wise. i notice his hands get swollen a lot of the times too. I have an aunt that wen to rehab for prescription pill addiction (I have no idea what all she was addicted to - vicodin, valium, percoset...she swapped them out all the time). Anyway, she told me that she had to go through motor skill rehab as well. Apparently, those opiate drugs do something to the person's motor skills. Something about the brain misfires or sends the wrong signals to the body, so they have to retrain, or relearn, the skills. She told me it was very elementary stuff, like putting puzzles together and putting shapes into a round ball like you have for infants. She said it was one of these. I wonder if Em had to do the same therapy.
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