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Post by tcat on Dec 22, 2016 23:47:08 GMT -5
Yeah I hope it was just because he's been trapped in the studio with minimal human interaction lately. He sounded off. Of all people, Em should feel the most comfortable being interviewed by Paul but even Paul sounded like he didn't know much about Em's life besides his love for football and cassette tapes. It sounds like it's all surface level conversation between them outside of the business conversations. Of course I'm just basing that off a 10 minute discussion and could be completely wrong lol I'm not hating on his cassette tape obsession, I just think it adds to this image of a guy who lives in the past and has a hard time moving on. I get that it probably gives him satisfaction to know that he is finally able to afford all the cassettes he wanted as a kid. I didn't think you were hating Nelly...I guess I was just saying like Em I am a sucker for old stuff and prefer it to what is out today...heck I just discovered Bruno Mars the other day on carpool karaoke LOL the only song I heard him on was Lighters PUTCHA! PINKY! RINGS! UPTOTHA! MOOOON I love Bruno Mars and I can't stop listening to his new song. It reminds me of 90's G-Funk. I was actually thinking it sounded sorta like old school Em...something he and Dre would have cooked up back in the day.
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Post by tcat on Dec 23, 2016 0:50:26 GMT -5
Do you think this next album he keeps talking about is his "Detox"? You know Dre talked about Detox all the time and how he was working on it but then a couple of projects came up so he put it on the back burner. But now he's working on it again and feeling it and will have it out soon (I just saw an old interview of him from 2011 just today and this is what he said at that time).
But then he never came out with it. When Straight Outta Compton came out, he said he was never releasing it. The soundtrack to the movie was his last project.
do think that is where Em is now?
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Post by tcat on Dec 23, 2016 1:00:33 GMT -5
No, I'd bet there's actually an album in the works. Em doesn't want to do a Detox. Especially since that almost killed the rest of Dre's career and everyone knows it - even Dre himself. The problem is -and I say this with the least harshness I can muster - Em has an issue with conflict and honestly...lacks a bit of a backbone when it come to Paul. Em is not comfortable with the business side of things and he doesn't know and doesn't know how anyone else in the industry who would work with him. Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't. He probably figures that things have shown to work with the way Paul does them, even though his way is incredibly fucking annoying. He's also known him for many years and Paul has proven to be a very shrewd businessman. He knows what he's in for with Paul, even though he doesn't like it. nd in a way, I personally think that Paul uses that insecurity that Em can't do it without him, as a way to solidfy his place. While Em has the power to fire, and his general position is being called "boss" the reality is business-wise? Paul owns 50% of EVERYTHING. He has the SAME powers as Em, and management powers on top - and THAT is why shit gets done PAUL's way. Em gave him that much power because he didn't want an entire team of people whom he didn't know how they worked and what they might fuck up. If Em had it his way and was able to do things without Paul, we'd probably get more interviews. We'd probably get ridiculous ass tweets too. I for one would LOVE to see a Twitter fued between him and Trump. That would be the Twitter story of the YEAR, and I honestly suspect D-12 would be back in his world and Royce and Slaughterhouse would be left in the cold. But the business is corrupt as fuck, and Paul gains by being a part of that corruption. Em loses, and so do the fans and the genre as a whole. I think you give Paul too much credit when it comes to Em's life. I think early in his career, Paul controlled a lot of Em and what he was doing. However, I think since he has gotten sober he got control of his own life and does whatever he wants to do. I think we used to get more interviews, fan meet and greets, etc back when Paul was controlling everything. Since Em now controls his own life, he does his own thing. He doesn't like giving interviews, so no more interviews. We know he is painfully shy and doesn't meet people easily, so no more fan meet and greets. No more public appearances, etc. He has always said he has never liked being famous. He lives a very private life and that is they way he wants it. He said in several interviews when he came back from his hiatus that he planned to live a more quiet, private life. He tried to get rid of the toxic chaos in his life and learned how to better manage his fame, which includes keeping his private life private. Em also has said he stays off Twitter and social media because he knows himself and will get into a stupid fight with some dumb person on the internet and that isn't how he wants to spend his time. I think that is a very mature way of looking at life. he's doing exactly what he wants and making his own decisions. Paul is just along for the ride.
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Post by willowmoonblood on Dec 23, 2016 9:47:54 GMT -5
Do you think this next album he keeps talking about is his "Detox"? You know Dre talked about Detox all the time and how he was working on it but then a couple of projects came up so he put it on the back burner. But now he's working on it again and feeling it and will have it out soon (I just saw an old interview of him from 2011 just today and this is what he said at that time). But then he never came out with it. When Straight Outta Compton came out, he said he was never releasing it. The soundtrack to the movie was his last project. do think that is where Em is now? A part of me does...I feel that he is nervous about releasing anything because the little he does release gets torn to shreds. I think maybe he doesn't want to go out on an album that is not received well. Right now his reputation is strong. If he releases something that fans think don't match his other stuff or is not received well by the industry he will consider his whole career a failure. JMO
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Post by britanny on Dec 23, 2016 10:07:24 GMT -5
Do you think this next album he keeps talking about is his "Detox"? You know Dre talked about Detox all the time and how he was working on it but then a couple of projects came up so he put it on the back burner. But now he's working on it again and feeling it and will have it out soon (I just saw an old interview of him from 2011 just today and this is what he said at that time). But then he never came out with it. When Straight Outta Compton came out, he said he was never releasing it. The soundtrack to the movie was his last project. do think that is where Em is now? A part of me does...I feel that he is nervous about releasing anything because the little he does release gets torn to shreds. I think maybe he doesn't want to go out on an album that is not received well. Right now his reputation is strong. If he releases something that fans think don't match his other stuff or is not received well by the industry he will consider his whole career a failure. JMO That's sad, I hope he doesn't really feel that way
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Post by kat531 on Dec 23, 2016 11:22:41 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done speculating about Em's personal life and both personal and business relationships. We honestly know absolutely nothing. He doesn't tell us anything--and hasn't told us anything for years. I'm kind of coming to terms with that. I don't think there is any point going off on wild tangents of speculation with just tiny pieces and shreds of information and then getting worked up into a frenzy about it. I'm not judging anyone for doing so or saying we shouldn't do it, but I personally don't find it helpful or enjoyable anymore. What we know right now: Em said he is working on an album. He still works with Paul, Royce, Denaun, the other Slaughterhouse guys--and apparently Yelawolf is still signed. His personal life: he watches football, collects cassette tapes and works out to exercise DVDs in his home gym. And that's it. That is all we know. Period. Sad but true. :-(
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Post by willowmoonblood on Dec 23, 2016 11:29:59 GMT -5
A part of me does...I feel that he is nervous about releasing anything because the little he does release gets torn to shreds. I think maybe he doesn't want to go out on an album that is not received well. Right now his reputation is strong. If he releases something that fans think don't match his other stuff or is not received well by the industry he will consider his whole career a failure. JMO That's sad, I hope he doesn't really feel that way Honestly I hope I am totally off base. I know it seems like I am being negative toward him lately. It is just one reason he appeals to me is we seem to be very alike as far as shy, anxiety, socially inept . I know how I would feel if every time I gave something to the public a huge part of them tore it apart. There seems to be a lot of fans who wished he would go back on drugs and rap the way "he used to" not taking into account that music changes and people grow so you are not the same as you were 15 years ago. I don't want him to retire, I am not hoping he will retire....I love hearing his music...and it will probarly take me days to recover mentally if he were to ever say I retire LOL....but I don't want him to end up like Michael Jackson or my "Gusband in my head" George Michael (who I believe has a lot of Em's traits as far as shy, anxiety etc). Fame and what the public expected from them, destoryed them. Em has given so much of himself. He deserves to sit back collect old cassette tapes, shoes, play donkey kong, send Paul angry texts when his football team is losing or just fiddle around in the studio when he feels like it. He doesn't owe us anything.
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Post by willowmoonblood on Dec 23, 2016 11:32:29 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done speculating about Em's personal life and both personal and business relationships. We honestly know absolutely nothing. He doesn't tell us anything--and hasn't told us anything for years. I'm kind of coming to terms with that. I don't think there is any point going off on wild tangents of speculation with just tiny pieces and shreds of information and then getting worked up into a frenzy about it. I'm not judging anyone for doing so or saying we shouldn't do it, but I personally don't find it helpful or enjoyable anymore. What we know right now: Em said he is working on an album. He still works with Paul, Royce, Denaun, the other Slaughterhouse guys--and apparently Yelawolf is still signed. His personal life: he watches football, collects cassette tapes and works out to exercise DVDs in his home gym. And that's it. That is all we know. Period. Sad but true. :-( Sorry I will quit speculating about what I think is going on with him. Like you said we don't know anything...even the bits he tells us could be lies.
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Post by kat531 on Dec 23, 2016 11:40:25 GMT -5
I'm pretty much done speculating about Em's personal life and both personal and business relationships. We honestly know absolutely nothing. He doesn't tell us anything--and hasn't told us anything for years. I'm kind of coming to terms with that. I don't think there is any point going off on wild tangents of speculation with just tiny pieces and shreds of information and then getting worked up into a frenzy about it. I'm not judging anyone for doing so or saying we shouldn't do it, but I personally don't find it helpful or enjoyable anymore. What we know right now: Em said he is working on an album. He still works with Paul, Royce, Denaun, the other Slaughterhouse guys--and apparently Yelawolf is still signed. His personal life: he watches football, collects cassette tapes and works out to exercise DVDs in his home gym. And that's it. That is all we know. Period. Sad but true. :-( Sorry I will quit speculating about what I think is going on with him. Like you said we don't know anything...even the bits he tells us could be lies. You don't need to quit speculating. Nobody here has to. I'm just speaking for myself. This is an Eminem board after all. I just prefer to base my speculations off of more solid info and evidence. And we've gotten nothing/ nada for a year and a half or more.
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Post by britanny on Dec 23, 2016 13:17:31 GMT -5
That's sad, I hope he doesn't really feel that way Honestly I hope I am totally off base. I know it seems like I am being negative toward him lately. It is just one reason he appeals to me is we seem to be very alike as far as shy, anxiety, socially inept . I know how I would feel if every time I gave something to the public a huge part of them tore it apart. There seems to be a lot of fans who wished he would go back on drugs and rap the way "he used to" not taking into account that music changes and people grow so you are not the same as you were 15 years ago. I don't want him to retire, I am not hoping he will retire....I love hearing his music...and it will probarly take me days to recover mentally if he were to ever say I retire LOL....but I don't want him to end up like Michael Jackson or my "Gusband in my head" George Michael (who I believe has a lot of Em's traits as far as shy, anxiety etc). Fame and what the public expected from them, destoryed them. Em has given so much of himself. He deserves to sit back collect old cassette tapes, shoes, play donkey kong, send Paul angry texts when his football team is losing or just fiddle around in the studio when he feels like it. He doesn't owe us anything. Anyone who says he should go back to drugs shouldn't consider themselves fans, one of his daughters a few years ago tweeted about that so sadly he probably knows.
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Post by dmx on Dec 23, 2016 14:09:41 GMT -5
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Post by dmx on Dec 27, 2016 3:03:36 GMT -5
I think the delay is because of the poor reception to Shady XV and Southpaw
Especially he did a budget semi-movie music video for Phenomenal that was shot in Japan w/ Dr Dre on it, but only has 38 Million views, which is low to Em standards...
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Post by Admin on Dec 27, 2016 3:17:58 GMT -5
I think the delay is because of the poor reception to Shady XV and Southpaw Especially he did a budget semi-movie music video for Phenomenal that was shot in Japan w/ Dr Dre on it, but only has 38 Million views, which is low to Em standards... -I think in the interview he did the NY Times to promote Southpaw he mentioned needing to slow down his flow, which is an acknowledgement that what he was doing wasn't working. -The Phenomenal video was exclusive to Apple Music for three months before it was posted to YouTube.
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Post by dmx on Dec 27, 2016 4:26:55 GMT -5
I think the delay is because of the poor reception to Shady XV and Southpaw Especially he did a budget semi-movie music video for Phenomenal that was shot in Japan w/ Dr Dre on it, but only has 38 Million views, which is low to Em standards... -I think in the interview he did the NY Times to promote Southpaw he mentioned needing to slow down his flow, which is an acknowledgement that what he was doing wasn't working. -The Phenomenal video was exclusive to Apple Music for three months before it was posted to YouTube. good points
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Post by tcat on Dec 27, 2016 9:43:37 GMT -5
I think the delay is because of the poor reception to Shady XV and Southpaw Especially he did a budget semi-movie music video for Phenomenal that was shot in Japan w/ Dr Dre on it, but only has 38 Million views, which is low to Em standards... -I think in the interview he did the NY Times to promote Southpaw he mentioned needing to slow down his flow, which is an acknowledgement that what he was doing wasn't working. -The Phenomenal video was exclusive to Apple Music for three months before it was posted to YouTube. I don't know why artist agree to those "exclusives". It only benefits the company with the exclusive and not the artist. Artist want as many people listening to their music as possible. Why are they agreeing to limit that number?
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