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Post by tcat on Jul 11, 2021 16:47:44 GMT -5
OMG!!! I'm now to the part where he's talking about that $6000 owed him. I actually believe his story that Paul paid him and then canceled the check. Everything else is bullshit. He says that he quit because they weren't paying him his "worth". He says he was a 29 year old dude thinking like a 50 year because he was so smart and wise! hahaha. But didn't Paul fire him because he had a couple of rappers that he was trying to get a record deal with and kept bugging Paul about it, so he fired him? I vaguely remember that story, but could be wrong. Maybe someone else remembers better than me. He also said he was with Em for a year and they were like brothers but he worked for him from mid May 99 to December 99. That's like 6-7 months, not a year. He's also saying that Em hasn't completed his 12 steps because he hasn't made amends with him. I don't see that Em has amends to make with him. Paul hired him. Paul paid him. and Paul fired him. Em was the entertainer, not the business manager. This guy is so full of himself. i kinda feel sorry for him. It's been over 20 years and this is the only accomplishment he's had in his life. Really, kinda sad. I scanned his Twitter page and he has posted "Eminem's former bodyguard beats COVID". Seriously, dude. YOu worked for him for 6 months over 20 years ago. It's just sad. Ok- see if I can try and finish this monstrosity. It really is tough to get through because his personality is so off putting and you know hes making shit up. Also, like I said, I believe his story about Paul paying him and cancelling the check. Paul strikes me as petty and vindictive and I can see him doing this. EDIT- ok, so I was right. I just got to the part where he says he was a music producer at the time and had artist he was trying to get signed. He wanted to be the next Berry Gordy. He says that while Em was sleeping, he had meetings with execs at Interscope, De Jam, etc. So the story I remember that he was fired because he kept trying to push his artist seems to be correct. Also, I like how he claims he keeps tabs on Em (duh!) but that Em keeps tabs on him because "Em's people tell him". Yeah, that's some bullshit. I would be surprised if Em even remembers the guy. Or maybe he remembers him because he wrote a tell all book about him that he's been promoting for the last 20 years, but I bet he has to be reminded of what his name is because he can't remember. EDIT 2: Ok, now I'm to the part where Big Nazzledouche has written his book about Em and he's in Chicago at a book fair with all these CEO's wanting to talk to him, cuz he's in his suit and looking to make a deal. Some CEO with "something, something" Publishing picks him out of the crowd and tells him that the publishing industry loves his book but ain't nobody gonna bite because they want Eminem and he has to die someday and when he does, they are going to make a killing off him. He then tells Big Nazzledouche what he needs to do is hire a hitman and have him killed and he will make a killing on the book. Of course, Big Nazzledouche is a humble man of integrity and would never do such a thing as this CEO is suggesting. Oh.My. Gawd. This delusional douchenozzle seriously thinks people are going to believe his story. Because it is common knowledge that CEO's of publishing companies go around killing the subjects of their books they publish so they can cash in.  This dude is a basketcase. Only 30 more minutes left...I'm going to power through. |
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Post by sparrow on Jul 11, 2021 18:33:11 GMT -5
Did you notice how he contradicts the 29 v 50 thing later when he went to Em's house "strapped and prepared for war"? He said he wouldn't do that now at 50 but at the time he was "thinking like a 29 year old". 29 is too old to show up prepared for a shooting to bother a musician in the middle of the night about a payroll issue at his house where he lived with his wife and baby! That is something an 18-y/o methed out gang member would do, not a married man with kids who is "the best in the business" as he reminds us 20,000 times. I feel somewhat guilty for recommending it, at first it seemed like wow he's spilling the tea this could be good, but fuck he was in love with himself. OMG!!! I'm now to the part where he's talking about that $6000 owed him. I actually believe his story that Paul paid him and then canceled the check. Everything else is bullshit. He says that he quit because they weren't paying him his "worth". He says he was a 29 year old dude thinking like a 50 year because he was so smart and wise! hahaha. But didn't Paul fire him because he had a couple of rappers that he was trying to get a record deal with and kept bugging Paul about it, so he fired him? I vaguely remember that story, but could be wrong. Maybe someone else remembers better than me. He also said he was with Em for a year and they were like brothers but he worked for him from mid May 99 to December 99. That's like 6-7 months, not a year. He's also saying that Em hasn't completed his 12 steps because he hasn't made amends with him. I don't see that Em has amends to make with him. Paul hired him. Paul paid him. and Paul fired him. Em was the entertainer, not the business manager. This guy is so full of himself. i kinda feel sorry for him. It's been over 20 years and this is the only accomplishment he's had in his life. Really, kinda sad. I scanned his Twitter page and he has posted "Eminem's former bodyguard beats COVID". Seriously, dude. YOu worked for him for 6 months over 20 years ago. It's just sad. Ok- see if I can try and finish this monstrosity. It really is tough to get through because his personality is so off putting and you know hes making shit up. Also, like I said, I believe his story about Paul paying him and cancelling the check. Paul strikes me as petty and vindictive and I can see him doing this. EDIT- ok, so I was right. I just got to the part where he says he was a music producer at the time and had artist he was trying to get signed. He wanted to be the next Berry Gordy. He says that while Em was sleeping, he had meetings with execs at Interscope, De Jam, etc. So the story I remember that he was fired because he kept trying to push his artist seems to be correct. Also, I like how he claims he keeps tabs on Em (duh!) but that Em keeps tabs on him because "Em's people tell him". Yeah, that's some bullshit. I would be surprised if Em even remembers the guy. Or maybe he remembers him because he wrote a tell all book about him that he's been promoting for the last 20 years, but I bet he has to be reminded of what his name is because he can't remember. EDIT 2: Ok, now I'm to the part where Big Nazzledouche has written his book about Em and he's in Chicago at a book fair with all these CEO's wanting to talk to him, cuz he's in his suit and looking to make a deal. Some CEO with "something, something" Publishing picks him out of the crowd and tells him that the publishing industry loves his book but ain't nobody gonna bite because they want Eminem and he has to die someday and when he does, they are going to make a killing off him. He then tells Big Nazzledouche what he needs to do is hire a hitman and have him killed and he will make a killing on the book. Of course, Big Nazzledouche is a humble man of integrity and would never do such a thing as this CEO is suggesting. Oh.My. Gawd. This delusional douchenozzle seriously thinks people are going to believe his story. Because it is common knowledge that CEO's of publishing companies go around killing the subjects of their books they publish so they can cash in. This dude is a basketcase. Only 30 more minutes left...I'm going to power through. |
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Post by tcat on Jul 11, 2021 19:03:45 GMT -5
Did you notice how he contradicts the 29 v 50 thing later when he went to Em's house "strapped and prepared for war"? He said he wouldn't do that now at 50 but at the time he was "thinking like a 29 year old". 29 is too old to show up prepared for a shooting to bother a musician in the middle of the night about a payroll issue at his house where he lived with his wife and baby! That is something an 18-y/o methed out gang member would do, not a married man with kids who is "the best in the business" as he reminds us 20,000 times. I feel somewhat guilty for recommending it, at first it seemed like wow he's spilling the tea this could be good, but fuck he was in love with himself. OMG!!! I'm now to the part where he's talking about that $6000 owed him. I actually believe his story that Paul paid him and then canceled the check. Everything else is bullshit. He says that he quit because they weren't paying him his "worth". He says he was a 29 year old dude thinking like a 50 year because he was so smart and wise! hahaha. But didn't Paul fire him because he had a couple of rappers that he was trying to get a record deal with and kept bugging Paul about it, so he fired him? I vaguely remember that story, but could be wrong. Maybe someone else remembers better than me. He also said he was with Em for a year and they were like brothers but he worked for him from mid May 99 to December 99. That's like 6-7 months, not a year. He's also saying that Em hasn't completed his 12 steps because he hasn't made amends with him. I don't see that Em has amends to make with him. Paul hired him. Paul paid him. and Paul fired him. Em was the entertainer, not the business manager. This guy is so full of himself. i kinda feel sorry for him. It's been over 20 years and this is the only accomplishment he's had in his life. Really, kinda sad. I scanned his Twitter page and he has posted "Eminem's former bodyguard beats COVID". Seriously, dude. YOu worked for him for 6 months over 20 years ago. It's just sad. Ok- see if I can try and finish this monstrosity. It really is tough to get through because his personality is so off putting and you know hes making shit up. Also, like I said, I believe his story about Paul paying him and cancelling the check. Paul strikes me as petty and vindictive and I can see him doing this. EDIT- ok, so I was right. I just got to the part where he says he was a music producer at the time and had artist he was trying to get signed. He wanted to be the next Berry Gordy. He says that while Em was sleeping, he had meetings with execs at Interscope, De Jam, etc. So the story I remember that he was fired because he kept trying to push his artist seems to be correct. Also, I like how he claims he keeps tabs on Em (duh!) but that Em keeps tabs on him because "Em's people tell him". Yeah, that's some bullshit. I would be surprised if Em even remembers the guy. Or maybe he remembers him because he wrote a tell all book about him that he's been promoting for the last 20 years, but I bet he has to be reminded of what his name is because he can't remember. EDIT 2: Ok, now I'm to the part where Big Nazzledouche has written his book about Em and he's in Chicago at a book fair with all these CEO's wanting to talk to him, cuz he's in his suit and looking to make a deal. Some CEO with "something, something" Publishing picks him out of the crowd and tells him that the publishing industry loves his book but ain't nobody gonna bite because they want Eminem and he has to die someday and when he does, they are going to make a killing off him. He then tells Big Nazzledouche what he needs to do is hire a hitman and have him killed and he will make a killing on the book. Of course, Big Nazzledouche is a humble man of integrity and would never do such a thing as this CEO is suggesting. Oh.My. Gawd. This delusional douchenozzle seriously thinks people are going to believe his story. Because it is common knowledge that CEO's of publishing companies go around killing the subjects of their books they publish so they can cash in. This dude is a basketcase. Only 30 more minutes left...I'm going to power through. OK- I'm finally done. Man, that was torture. It took me like 5 hours to get through it. I was cleaning my house but I would stop periodically because his personality and grandiose demeanor was just so off putting. It's clear he wants to get back in touch with Em because he thinks he can make some money with him. He desperately wants to make a movie of Em's life story. He's got 1999 but he will give Em the next 20 years. He's a giver like that. So humble and such integrity, this Big Nazzledouche is. What a F'ing grifter. sparrow, he contradicted himself many times. The whole money thing...he went on and on about how Em never had any money or couldn't access his money but then goes to his house to get paid? If the guy has no money or can't access his money, how's he gonna pay you. I don't think Em actually had any money at the time. This was the year SSLP came out and I think royalties are paid out twice a year, April and October. Em would have only received one royalty payment at that time and the royalty payments are like 2-3 months behind. So his October payment was likely for sales March - July so it is very possible that was a small check. He and Kim were still living with Kim's mom at the time. We know that he and Kim's mom didn't get along, so why would he be living with her if he had the money to get his own place? Now his next royalty check, in April 2000 was probably a big one and that is when he got his own place and had some money to spend. The dude is just so insufferable and I don't believe most of what he said. I believe part of his stories are true but then he embellishes them. Like I believe Em probably did eat at a McDonald's but everything after that is made up. Most of his stories don't match with what we know as fact 20 years later. Like I said earlier, it's really sad that this guy is still hanging on to his glory months (because he only worked for him for like 6 months) 20 years later. He clearly hasn't had any personal accomplishments in the last 20 years and is still trying to work the grift. Oh, what about what he said about the billionaire movie producer that has won Academy awards that contacted Byron to make a movie about Em's life? He mentioned that a couple of times and then was like, "Em, hit me up so we can do this movie together. My billionaire connection is ready to go. He's got all the people in place". REALLY? Does he really think we are going to believe his bullshit? Like some billionaire would contact Em or Paul himself? He's going to go through some dude that worked for him over 20 years ago and hadn't spoken with him since? Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. I remember some other interview he did a few years back where he was talking about wanting to make a movie of EM's life and how he "owned" his first year he became famous and how Em was going to need his permission to get the rights to that part of his life. He said something to the effect of, "he'll have to come to daddy if he wants to tell that part of his life because I own that". He wasn't quite that obnoxious in this interview, but close. matty, isn't there a recent picture of him and Royce? Maybe he does talk to people in Em's circle. Marshall really needs to find new friends. What a bunch of leeches. Ok, I'm done. Thanks for recommending it, sparrow. It did give me something to do. It did make my blood boil, but my bathtub is real clean because of it...so thanks. I don't know if I would recommend it to anyone. Between sparrow and myself, we covered most of what he said. If anyone else watched it and wants to add, please do so. One last thing...the number of people in the comments section who actually believe this fool is disturbing. How can you not pick up on the fact that this guy is obviously lying...even if you knew nothing about Eminem? |
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Post by matty on Jul 13, 2021 0:43:06 GMT -5
There is a pic of Royce and him but idk where it’s at. They might have sponges it from the net because after a quick search I couldn’t find it. But yeah it’s out there I’m sure if u dig deep enough tcat |
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Post by snootchy on Jul 13, 2021 5:20:22 GMT -5
Hi guys, newbie here. I tried to do my homework in the last couple of months and worked my way through the basics (as in videos, books, discussions), but I have a few questions and I wonder if anybody could answer some of them. I'd really appreciate it. 1. As I read through the boards I found numerous mentions of different projects being teased/announced/produced and then never being released. Can anyone explain this to me in a little more detail? Like what kind of projects are we specifically talking about, how do fans know about them and do you think that anything big went down to prevent the release or was it „just“ Em or his team being overly strict/perfectionist?
2. This one is random but I keep reading that Em is „clingy“ and I wonder where that rumor is coming from? Are we going by lyrics or are there actual stories confirming this? Mostly wondering about this cause I've read the same thing about other famous people before and I wonder if it's just something people easily presume.
3. I saw that you guys were talking about the Hush-interview recently and nobody seemed to be surprised by him telling the story about Em putting on a prosthetic nose to be able to go to the mall. Is this something that is known about him? I know people joke a lot about him probably disguising in public, because he is so rarely seen, but do you actually think this is something he did/does frequently?
4. I've been reading all the well known books about him and it seems impossible to find that Jenny Watkins book these days. I found an archived version of the tripod website but that's about it. I know that it is pretty much all lies but I'd still love to read the whole thing. Does anybody have any idea where I could find it? Do actual physical copies of that book still exist? Have any of you read the whole thing or just the tripod bits? I've heard people mention that she used to have a forum/message board, too. Did she actually answer people's questions about him or what was that about? I think I'll stop for now, this is already looking like an essay. Sorry! Just trying to make sense of it all, but it's a whole lot of info when you're new. |
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Post by me on Jul 13, 2021 16:02:09 GMT -5
Hi guys, newbie here. I tried to do my homework in the last couple of months and worked my way through the basics (as in videos, books, discussions), but I have a few questions and I wonder if anybody could answer some of them. I'd really appreciate it. 1. As I read through the boards I found numerous mentions of different projects being teased/announced/produced and then never being released. Can anyone explain this to me in a little more detail? Like what kind of projects are we specifically talking about, how do fans know about them and do you think that anything big went down to prevent the release or was it „just“ Em or his team being overly strict/perfectionist?
2. This one is random but I keep reading that Em is „clingy“ and I wonder where that rumor is coming from? Are we going by lyrics or are there actual stories confirming this? Mostly wondering about this cause I've read the same thing about other famous people before and I wonder if it's just something people easily presume.
3. I saw that you guys were talking about the Hush-interview recently and nobody seemed to be surprised by him telling the story about Em putting on a prosthetic nose to be able to go to the mall. Is this something that is known about him? I know people joke a lot about him probably disguising in public, because he is so rarely seen, but do you actually think this is something he did/does frequently?
4. I've been reading all the well known books about him and it seems impossible to find that Jenny Watkins book these days. I found an archived version of the tripod website but that's about it. I know that it is pretty much all lies but I'd still love to read the whole thing. Does anybody have any idea where I could find it? Do actual physical copies of that book still exist? Have any of you read the whole thing or just the tripod bits? I've heard people mention that she used to have a forum/message board, too. Did she actually answer people's questions about him or what was that about? I think I'll stop for now, this is already looking like an essay. Sorry! Just trying to make sense of it all, but it's a whole lot of info when you're new. Hello! Welcome! 😊 I can at least help with the first one! Lol there’s this interview we’re waiting for…  and then there’s the Home & Home tour DVD (with Jay Z? or I’m not even 100% sure which tour DVD, but a tour DVD, think it was the home & home tour 🤔) that was supposed to come out 11 years ago… 😑 Marshall… Paul… I still REMEMBER… 😋 #NeverForget #StillRemember 😅 Well I can go on 2) well there are lyrics where he raps himself that he’s clingy, but also I think some of his ex gfs or mistresses have said he’s clingy. 3) I don’t know how much he dresses up nowadays, but I know he said in some interview that even when he has dressed up with hoodies and stuff, it’s enough if his fans see just one of his eyes and they recognize him, so his disguises didn’t really work. He said he didn’t understand how people can recognize him like that, lol. Makes me feel a bit guilty cuz I think I could be one of those people… 😇 4) I think it’s mostly gone other than the tripod you mentioned. Maybe you can find physical copies on ebay or amazon or something, not sure, but I do think I have seen physical copies at least years ago. I think I’ve read the whole thing online years ago when it was still available. And not sure if she interacted on the board, but she posted a never before seen chapter on that board. I think she got mostly shit for it tho. |
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Post by GG102 on Jul 14, 2021 6:42:55 GMT -5
I bought a copy of "Cleaning Out My Closet" by JR Watkins eons ago online. They exist, they're just expensive.
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Post by snootchy on Jul 15, 2021 1:25:31 GMT -5
Hello! Welcome! 😊 I can at least help with the first one! Lol there’s this interview we’re waiting for… (removed pic for the quote) and then there’s the Home & Home tour DVD (with Jay Z? or I’m not even 100% sure which tour DVD, but a tour DVD, think it was the home & home tour 🤔) that was supposed to come out 11 years ago… 😑 Marshall… Paul… I still REMEMBER… 😋 #NeverForget #StillRemember 😅 Well I can go on 2) well there are lyrics where he raps himself that he’s clingy, but also I think some of his ex gfs or mistresses have said he’s clingy. 3) I don’t know how much he dresses up nowadays, but I know he said in some interview that even when he has dressed up with hoodies and stuff, it’s enough if his fans see just one of his eyes and they recognize him, so his disguises didn’t really work. He said he didn’t understand how people can recognize him like that, lol. Makes me feel a bit guilty cuz I think I could be one of those people… 😇 4) I think it’s mostly gone other than the tripod you mentioned. Maybe you can find physical copies on ebay or amazon or something, not sure, but I do think I have seen physical copies at least years ago. I think I’ve read the whole thing online years ago when it was still available. And not sure if she interacted on the board, but she posted a never before seen chapter on that board. I think she got mostly shit for it tho. Thank you for your answers! 
I thought it was way more projects that never saw the light of day. I guess it's not that bad then. Where did the pic you posted come from?
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Post by snootchy on Jul 15, 2021 1:35:30 GMT -5
I bought a copy of "Cleaning Out My Closet" by JR Watkins eons ago online. They exist, they're just expensive.
I've been trying to hunt one down for a while but the prices are ridiculous. I thought I found one copy that was at least somewhat affordable on abebooks, but it turned out that the bookseller actually had the wrong book. So frustrating.
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Post by me on Jul 15, 2021 16:13:28 GMT -5
Hello! Welcome! 😊 I can at least help with the first one! Lol there’s this interview we’re waiting for… (removed pic for the quote) and then there’s the Home & Home tour DVD (with Jay Z? or I’m not even 100% sure which tour DVD, but a tour DVD, think it was the home & home tour 🤔) that was supposed to come out 11 years ago… 😑 Marshall… Paul… I still REMEMBER… 😋 #NeverForget #StillRemember 😅 Well I can go on 2) well there are lyrics where he raps himself that he’s clingy, but also I think some of his ex gfs or mistresses have said he’s clingy. 3) I don’t know how much he dresses up nowadays, but I know he said in some interview that even when he has dressed up with hoodies and stuff, it’s enough if his fans see just one of his eyes and they recognize him, so his disguises didn’t really work. He said he didn’t understand how people can recognize him like that, lol. Makes me feel a bit guilty cuz I think I could be one of those people… 😇 4) I think it’s mostly gone other than the tripod you mentioned. Maybe you can find physical copies on ebay or amazon or something, not sure, but I do think I have seen physical copies at least years ago. I think I’ve read the whole thing online years ago when it was still available. And not sure if she interacted on the board, but she posted a never before seen chapter on that board. I think she got mostly shit for it tho. Thank you for your answers!
I thought it was way more projects that never saw the light of day. I guess it's not that bad then. Where did the pic you posted come from?
I’m sure there are many more projects that never were released, these were just the two first major projects that popped into mind, they made teasers about them and posted on social media that they will be released “soon”, and then no one has heard about them since… Paul was famous for his “soon” back then lol! Obviously Relapse 2 is another one… I know Em posted about not releasing it, and released Recovery instead, but a lot of fans are still hoping he’d release it some day. Oh the pic, I don’t even remember… it was all over twitter at least back about ten years ago when this interview was gonna be released “soon”. Maybe it was even Em’s team who released it ? |
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Post by GG102 on Jul 15, 2021 18:03:43 GMT -5
I bought a copy of "Cleaning Out My Closet" by JR Watkins eons ago online. They exist, they're just expensive.
I've been trying to hunt one down for a while but the prices are ridiculous. I thought I found one copy that was at least somewhat affordable on abebooks, but it turned out that the bookseller actually had the wrong book. So frustrating.
Wow, I think I bought my copy on Abebooks, or it may have been Debbie's book. Abebooks is a great site, very well organized, but mistakes can happen. I think I paid either $35 or $50 for "Cleaning Out My Closet." Paid $50 for "My Son Marshall, My Son Eminem." No matter what the critics might say, there are some kernels of truth, and it's another slant to Marshall. The Marshall we'll never know. EM should remember that no matter how he feels about Debbie, he wouldn't be here without her! |
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Post by matty on Jul 16, 2021 0:20:52 GMT -5
Okay this is why I hate royce. Perfect example here.
So this dude asked royce what five rappers he would want on a team and he included Em...okay cool. But then he just out the blue says "well we don't actually need Em because we are all just Em...so we don't need him...and Jay z is the best rapper in the world soo him!"
and I am like DUDE I would have rather you not even MENTION em. But u legit went out of ur way to take him out and make it clear that he aint needed. He does so many backhanded compliments about Em that is is disgusting. DONT EVEN MENTION HIM! I would rather that than something like this. Also Em apparently is ur "bestie" but u take him out?? Not just like "well I gotta have my buddy on there!" I swear its the psychology side of me but its like he INTENSIONALLY brings up Em just to side diss him publicly. He really thinks he is better than Em dude. And that fine. You can think that; everyone should be their own biggest cheerleader but Em has ONLY publicly praised you. And yes I get this is just one random instance but this happens so fucking much. ITS A CONSISTENT thing. And he does it with so many other people too that he sees as a threat -its not just Em. and he burned soooo many bridges from Dre, Pharell, Kanye- and now he is in a beef with half the fucking internet today cuz again he is talking shit and even upset his podcast cohost Lupe.
When will ppl realize that this dude isn't a good guy to anyone- its not just Em... Yet with Joe? The one spiteful jerk?? Well Royce literally will acts like he cured cancer because he has a patreon and failing podcast. The good news it that reddit is now posting about royce on the Joe Budden subform and ppl are seeing how shit he is finally. He thinks he is so wise but the reality dude is SO far behind in the times and all his business ventures fail because he is in his little twitter and instagram bubble. His perspective is SO limited dude.
He just talks and talks and doesn't even say anything dude.
he starts talking about it 53:30.
oh and he also recently blamed Em for SH again but was like MARSHALL TRIEDDDDD THOUGH! HE JUST DIDNT GET THE PERSEPCTIVE!!!!!
NEWS FLASHHHHHHHH!
EM DIDNT MAKE THE BEATS AND IT WAS ROYCES IDEA TO MAKE THE CEE LO SONG THE SINGLEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
fucking bitter fuck.
sorry I needed that cathartic session lol. I appreciate your time and I will pay my copay upfront next time lol
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Post by matty on Jul 16, 2021 0:35:41 GMT -5
Also last post on this:
please tell me Royce does not look abosulty fucking insane glaring at Lupe for saying MMLP was the best album when it was nominated for the a grammy and deserved the win. Like scary dude. I swear something is off with this dude.
At 1:11:41 to 1:20:09 PLEASE keep watching until the end mark I gave. Please tell me he does not look absolutely psychotic/angry/bitter. I just feel like I am alone in seeing how unhinge this man is. But dude; please just keep watching for those nine mins; even after cuz then he does some weird beard shit that creeps me out too. I think he wanted Lupe to agree with him and deep down lost it when he didn't. Also I just love how Lupe suggested that Royce was just jealous lol
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Post by snootchy on Jul 16, 2021 3:49:30 GMT -5
Thank you for your answers!
I thought it was way more projects that never saw the light of day. I guess it's not that bad then. Where did the pic you posted come from?
I’m sure there are many more projects that never were released, these were just the two first major projects that popped into mind, they made teasers about them and posted on social media that they will be released “soon”, and then no one has heard about them since… Paul was famous for his “soon” back then lol! Obviously Relapse 2 is another one… I know Em posted about not releasing it, and released Recovery instead, but a lot of fans are still hoping he’d release it some day. Oh the pic, I don’t even remember… it was all over twitter at least back about ten years ago when this interview was gonna be released “soon”. Maybe it was even Em’s team who released it ? I see. Thank you for the info! That sounds really frustrating. I understand not releasing an album after getting a negative response to the last one, but to make and tease interviews and tour DVDs and then not publish them without giving a reason seems really strange. |
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Post by snootchy on Jul 16, 2021 4:26:14 GMT -5
I've been trying to hunt one down for a while but the prices are ridiculous. I thought I found one copy that was at least somewhat affordable on abebooks, but it turned out that the bookseller actually had the wrong book. So frustrating.
Wow, I think I bought my copy on Abebooks, or it may have been Debbie's book. Abebooks is a great site, very well organized, but mistakes can happen. I think I paid either $35 or $50 for "Cleaning Out My Closet." Paid $50 for "My Son Marshall, My Son Eminem." No matter what the critics might say, there are some kernels of truth, and it's another slant to Marshall. The Marshall we'll never know. EM should remember that no matter how he feels about Debbie, he wouldn't be here without her! $50 sounds about right. I found some offers for that amount. But then they add the same amount of money for shipping to Europe and paying 100€ for 100 pages full of potential lies seems a little bit over the top.
Debbie's book was definitely interesting. I had to take notes to keep up with all the different places she lived and all of her random jobs. What drove me crazy was her desperate attempt to make everything sound nice and normal even though horrible things kept happening the whole time. "I met this nice man who took good care of me and was so nice to the kids. He liked a martini or two after work but that wasn't a problem for me." and then two chapters later he's a drunk that starts beating her and she just casually mentions horrible things that happened because of that. But then she meets another man who is "so friendly and wonderful" she just has to take a chance and marry him after a few months of dating and everything is so great... until he just randomly goes crazy. I mean... it's always easy to judge from the outside but at some point while reading that book you can't help but start to question her ability to make basic life choices. I agree with you though, I'm sure there's some truth in that book.
And Debbie's book suddenly doesn't seem all that crazy anymore once you read that horrible collection of badly written stories about why untrained bodyguards need to make as much money as managers, especially if they are forced to work for "the devil"...
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This dude is a basketcase. Only 30 more minutes left...I'm going to power through.
