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Post by sparrow on May 14, 2021 18:07:39 GMT -5
It's so cringe and embarrassing and it ridiculous how Tom stans and his people are trying to spin this Ppl need to start using Ems name and do their own shit and leave Em alone SO cringe. Beat is good because Em made it, and (for once) he didn't spend the whole song whining about the plight of the straight white male. I am sure other 14-y/o edgelords and and toxic right wing SJW/BLM-obsessed boomers think it's š„.
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Post by Admin on May 15, 2021 0:41:19 GMT -5
Well at least the NFT saga is over for now. Maybe don't sell a beat next time.
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 2:16:51 GMT -5
It's so cringe and embarrassing and it ridiculous how Tom stans and his people are trying to spin this Ppl need to start using Ems name and do their own shit and leave Em alone SO cringe. Beat is good because Em made it, and (for once) he didn't spend the whole song whining about the plight of the straight white male. I am sure other 14-y/o edgelords and and toxic right wing SJW/BLM-obsessed boomers think it's š„. So basically, matty, youāre saying that no other white man can be a rapper. As soon as a white guy comes out, and says things that pisses folks off, heās going to be compared to Eminem, the GOAT. Iām proud of Tom. Heās an Eminem fan, and heās so successful he was able to buy one of Eminemās beats, and tell him just how great he is. And Nova (the biggest of Stans), put so much thought into the video. They recreated Stanās room, in one of the rooms in their house, they got the same model car Stan drove off the bridge... it was an homage! And imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Sparrow, itās sad that you think only 14 y/o edgelords, and toxic right wingers are the only people who could be hearing Tomās message and liking it. Unless, wait, was that a dig at me? Ouch, if yes. And Iām definitely not a boomer. I was born in 1981, nearly smack-dab in the middle of Eminem and Tom. Everyone else, did anyone actually watch the video? We Stans have nothing to comment on? Everything Eminem does is good = Everything Tom does is evil. Damn, that really sucks. Racism is dead, yāall. Some of you might catch up eventually, and Iāll be lurking here to knock elbows and talk about it when youāre ready. Peace, bitches.
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 2:21:59 GMT -5
Well at least the NFT saga is over for now. Maybe don't sell a beat next time. Hey Admin, thanks for approving me before NFT drop. It was fun to come hear as a fan of both and try to find like minds... I mean, I failed š, but it was still fun to chat with folks whose words Iāve been reading for so long. I have a question for you, as you know all things industry related to Em. I guess the beat wasnāt the only NFT for sale. Do you know what the others were?
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Post by matty on May 15, 2021 4:13:15 GMT -5
Well at least the NFT saga is over for now. Maybe don't sell a beat next time. Dude if that idiot used the beat to make a song that had nothing to do with em I'd still be angry but okay I get it. And if I had a beat from Em I would spend a shit ton of time working on a great song rather than pushing one out just for a quick cash grab. The man is just trash (and yes the song is pure trash with juvenile writing) and made a song about Em just to try and get his fans. Why does everyone think stans are dumb? either way I hope Em gave Paul shit for this bullshit and tom fans can stop trying to push this Neanderthal on ppl. Just cuz u are a white rapper doesn't mean ur anything like Em and find ur own vibe like Mac Miller and yellawolf. And quit bitching that ppl compare u to Eminem when u literally used his name to promote a shitty song. How embarrassing for u tbh
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Post by sammy97 on May 15, 2021 7:01:58 GMT -5
SO cringe. Beat is good because Em made it, and (for once) he didn't spend the whole song whining about the plight of the straight white male. I am sure other 14-y/o edgelords and and toxic right wing SJW/BLM-obsessed boomers think it's š„. So basically, matty, youāre saying that no other white man can be a rapper. As soon as a white guy comes out, and says things that pisses folks off, heās going to be compared to Eminem, the GOAT. Iām proud of Tom. Heās an Eminem fan, and heās so successful he was able to buy one of Eminemās beats, and tell him just how great he is. And Nova (the biggest of Stans), put so much thought into the video. They recreated Stanās room, in one of the rooms in their house, they got the same model car Stan drove off the bridge... it was an homage! And imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Sparrow, itās sad that you think only 14 y/o edgelords, and toxic right wingers are the only people who could be hearing Tomās message and liking it. Unless, wait, was that a dig at me? Ouch, if yes. And Iām definitely not a boomer. I was born in 1981, nearly smack-dab in the middle of Eminem and Tom. Everyone else, did anyone actually watch the video? We Stans have nothing to comment on? Everything Eminem does is good = Everything Tom does is evil. Damn, that really sucks. Racism is dead, yāall. Some of you might catch up eventually, and Iāll be lurking here to knock elbows and talk about it when youāre ready. Peace, bitches. Wait a minute, maybe because I'm up early, and I didn't get to drink my coffee yet, but did I read this right ? Racism is dead ? Where is racism is dead exactly, in the fantasy land where you and that Tom guy lives ?
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Post by sammy97 on May 15, 2021 7:18:28 GMT -5
Anyways, can we just move on from talking about this guy, and talk about the Relapse anniversary instead.
I just wanna say that I wish Eminem would post something for the anniversary. I know he doesn't do that kinda stuff, but at least tweet something, Em!
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 8:11:55 GMT -5
Anyways, can we just move on from talking about this guy, and talk about the Relapse anniversary instead. I just wanna say that I wish Eminem would post something for the anniversary. I know he doesn't do that kinda stuff, but at least tweet something, Em! Soooo, not ready to talk about it. Coo, coo, cool... probably for the best, because your question about my fantasy land spawned some really lovely things, and Iām prone to overshare. Like, the things Em and Tom and I do involving swimming in a pool of blue kool aid, and then dressing like smurfs and going... you donāt care. Please, tell me you put creamer in your coffee. What kind of creamer do use? I miss coffee creamer so much that I spend 10ā¬ on a tiny... anyways, never mind
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Post by sparrow on May 15, 2021 10:37:55 GMT -5
So which Tom fan group told it's members to come here and argue with all us crazy irrational stans? "Oh gosh oh golly I am so excited for this revolutionary partnership, whaaat you think Tom is racist? Oh, heavens!"
Racism is not dead. Countless unarmed black men, though? They are dead, because of racism. Racism stained the entire Trump presidency, brought about qanon and the Proud Boys, and ultimately helped fuel the racist, virtually all-white insurrection on January 6th. Oh, and there was that one time a cop literally sat on a black man's neck for 10 minutes while he cried and begged for his mother as he suffocated to death over a counterfeit $20, which would not have happened to a white male (see Roof, Dylan).
Big props to Eminem for soundly condemning all of those things.
You notice no one thinks EM is a racist "just because he's white"? It's because he's not fucking racist. He acknowledges the black struggle. He doesn't pretend privilege doesn't exist. He has dedicated his life to a primarily black genre that he respects more than anything else on earth. He is good friends with actual black people. He doesn't bitch about BLM being "stupid" or make it out like everyone is screwed equally. He doesn't complain that everyone hates him just because he's guilty by association, like Tom does.
Once again,my receipts are White Boy, Straight White Male, No Lives Matter, If I Was Black, People are Dumb, and Fake Woke. ALL songs in which Tom complains everyone is too easily offended and denies the existence of ANY injustice EXCEPT the injustice of being a straight white male with conservative values and how butthurt he is that people hate him "just because he's white" and not, idk, because he SHITS ALL OVER EXTREMELY RELEVANT SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN EVERY SONG.
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 11:24:48 GMT -5
Stans! Omg, I have a question for you.
TLDR (FYI: too long, didnāt read. My 14 y/o son who loves Reddit taught me that.... no, he doesnāt know who Tom MacDonald is... writing 14 y/o again today, made me think I should clarify. He also doesnāt like Eminem, donāt come at me for that! Heās his own person. Fuck, too long, I suck at internet)
ACTUAL TLDR: Stans, Shady Synidcate (however you identify) do you think Eminem ācancelled himselfā to release Tone Deaf?
Context: Iām asking because I was going through the News tab, trying to really focus, I missed me (the darling scientist from Finland... not me/myself... Iām not completely cracked) posting... what else did I miss? And I noticed someone posting about that whole Tik Tok tries to cancel Eminem drama. And it reminded me of, shit, (relates to The GotDamn Devil Master of Trash and Cash Grabs) okay, wait.... restart:
I was watching Flawdzilla, on YouTube, reacting to Eminemās Tone Deaf.
And at the 14:10 mark, he drops his āEminem Cancelled Himselfā conspiracy. I hope you watch the whole thing, and can explain any wordplay Flawd was confused by, or missed... I havenāt been motivated enough to look up this song on Rap Genius, and would love talking about this shit if someone could point out the existing thread.
When I was on the news tab, I noted the date, then searched up the release date of the Tone Deaf video release..., And thatās like a legit cartoon! Iāve recently been creating an animated story, and it went from cartoon, to like, animated comic book form real quick! The type of cartoon Tone Deaf is, takes a SHIT TON of work.. or Iām completely oblivious to some animation software. Which could be, totally... my thing is just a random dream-inspired hobby bull shit thing, not self promotion.
Anyways, I said wait cause I started watching Flawdzillaās reacts to various Tom MacDonaldās... yada, yada. Like, I was watching all Tomās videos... trying to work through the internal cringe... and just wanted to talk to someone about him... but I have no friendās that like rap, and my husband doesnāt like rap, and was all āyeah, I told you about him, for you, I donāt careā . So, I searched react to videos (which Iāve never enjoyed when they popped up in my recommended) and, yeah, here I am excited about Em again. I got ADD/ADHD, whatever (legit, just diagnosed for the first time and Iām about to turn 40 next month, I fucking love German healthcare). What the hell is my point? Refer to ACTUAL TLDR if you got this far and have become confused. I am. Please, just ignore me.
I really hope someone out there is understanding my context, Iām sorry for being me. No, no, Iām not, Iām sorry if I am irrating you with the nonsense Iām trying to communicate. Anyway, do we got something better to discuss, or should I crawl back into my lurker shell? (Iāve got my whole hyper sensitivity to rejection thing under control, so, just be honest)
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 11:55:51 GMT -5
So which Tom fan group told it's members to come here and argue with all us crazy irrational stans? "Oh gosh oh golly I am so excited for this revolutionary partnership, whaaat you think Tom is racist? Oh, heavens!" Racism is not dead. Countless unarmed black men, though? They are dead, because of racism. Racism stained the entire Trump presidency, brought about qanon and the Proud Boys, and ultimately helped fuel the racist, virtually all-white insurrection on January 6th. Oh, and there was that one time a cop literally sat on a black man's neck for 10 minutes while he cried and begged for his mother as he suffocated to death over a counterfeit $20, which would not have happened to a white male (see Roof, Dylan). Big props to Eminem for soundly condemning all of those things. You notice no one thinks EM is a racist "just because he's white"? It's because he's not fucking racist. He acknowledges the black struggle. He doesn't pretend privilege doesn't exist. He has dedicated his life to a primarily black genre that he respects more than anything else on earth. He is good friends with actual black people. He doesn't bitch about BLM being "stupid" or make it out like everyone is screwed equally. He doesn't complain that everyone hates him just because he's guilty by association, like Tom does. Once again,my receipts are White Boy, Straight White Male, No Lives Matter, If I Was Black, People are Dumb, and Fake Woke. ALL songs in which Tom complains everyone is too easily offended and denies the existence of ANY injustice EXCEPT the injustice of being a straight white male with conservative values and how butthurt he is that people hate him "just because he's white" and not, idk, because he SHITS ALL OVER EXTREMELY RELEVANT SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN EVERY SONG. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I legit just discovered Tom like two/three days ago. I just spent like an hour composing my question about the Tone Deaf video. Iāve seriously been lurking on this Forum for a decade, too insecure to interact with anyone on the Internet because I have Metal Health issues. Please forgive weird capitalizations, I live in Germany now, and they write differently. My autocorrect gone crazy! I am a person. My name is Danielle. My Instagram is wunch.one ... Iāve got three photos on there. If you look at who I follow, you might be able to find my daughter. I donāt have any other social media, really. I canāt watch Tom MacDonaldās live streams because I refuse to rejoin Facebook. Iāve found a couple of uploads of his live streams on YouTube, but I donāt think Tom Posts those... so I donāt like, comment, like, or subscribe... Ummm, okay wait, you said a lot of other important shit... Iām gonna go back, and reflect. Iāve only been brave enough to Chat with you guys... I swear Iām not a minion... but those minions are cute, right?! Like from the the movies.. no... this is serious. I will give a serious response, just give me a minute... literally, lots of minutes, hold o Edited to add: you didnāt tell me about your coffee creamer preferences , right? I miss coffeemaker so bad, and Taco Bell! Ugh! I would murder someone for a chalupa... not really, maybe, no, no definitely not. All life is valuable.
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Post by riversong1 on May 15, 2021 12:50:29 GMT -5
So which Tom fan group told it's members to come here and argue with all us crazy irrational stans? "Oh gosh oh golly I am so excited for this revolutionary partnership, whaaat you think Tom is racist? Oh, heavens!" Racism is not dead. Countless unarmed black men, though? They are dead, because of racism. Racism stained the entire Trump presidency, brought about qanon and the Proud Boys, and ultimately helped fuel the racist, virtually all-white insurrection on January 6th. Oh, and there was that one time a cop literally sat on a black man's neck for 10 minutes while he cried and begged for his mother as he suffocated to death over a counterfeit $20, which would not have happened to a white male (see Roof, Dylan). Big props to Eminem for soundly condemning all of those things. You notice no one thinks EM is a racist "just because he's white"? It's because he's not fucking racist. He acknowledges the black struggle. He doesn't pretend privilege doesn't exist. He has dedicated his life to a primarily black genre that he respects more than anything else on earth. He is good friends with actual black people. He doesn't bitch about BLM being "stupid" or make it out like everyone is screwed equally. He doesn't complain that everyone hates him just because he's guilty by association, like Tom does. Once again,my receipts are White Boy, Straight White Male, No Lives Matter, If I Was Black, People are Dumb, and Fake Woke. ALL songs in which Tom complains everyone is too easily offended and denies the existence of ANY injustice EXCEPT the injustice of being a straight white male with conservative values and how butthurt he is that people hate him "just because he's white" and not, idk, because he SHITS ALL OVER EXTREMELY RELEVANT SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN EVERY SONG. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I legit just discovered Tom like two/three days ago. I just spent like an hour composing my question about the Tone Deaf video. Iāve seriously been lurking on this Forum for a decade, too insecure to interact with anyone on the Internet because I have Metal Health issues. Please forgive weird capitalizations, I live in Germany now, and they write differently. My autocorrect gone crazy! I am a person. My name is Danielle. My Instagram is wunch.one ... Iāve got three photos on there. If you look at who I follow, you might be able to find my daughter. I donāt have any other social media, really. I canāt watch Tom MacDonaldās live streams because I refuse to rejoin Facebook. Iāve found a couple of uploads of his live streams on YouTube, but I donāt think Tom Posts those... so I donāt like, comment, like, or subscribe... Ummm, okay wait, you said a lot of other important shit... Iām gonna go back, and reflect. Iāve only been brave enough to Chat with you guys... I swear Iām not a minion... but those minions are cute, right?! Like from the the movies.. no... this is serious. I will give a serious response, just give me a minute... literally, lots of minutes, hold o Edited to add: you didnāt tell me about your coffee creamer preferences , right? I miss coffeemaker so bad, and Taco Bell! Ugh! I would murder someone for a chalupa... not really, maybe, no, no definitely not. All life is valuable. Thank you Sparrow for addressing the āracism is deadā comment! As a Black women in America I know racism isNOT dead! For you wunch or whatever your name is to come in here and say racism is dead, and to reply back to Sparrow and still didnāt address that racist comment, that YOU ARE the problem! Dont say that bullshit that youāre from another country cause we all know that the George Floyd video was seen ALL OVER THE WORLD! You wanna back some bootleg Eminem thats on you but dont come to a Eminem fan page and push that RACIST ASSHOLE Tom whatever on here! If you wanna know if racism is dead, trade places with me a black women in America. Trade places with me a black mom who has to teach her black sons how to act around police. If racism is dead, trade places with me and go to park mind your own business and have he police called because they want to know what youre doing there even though youāre not bothering anybody! Trade places with me and go to job interviews and watch there faces as they are surprised to see youāre black! I could go on and on! Racism is dead, Bitch Please! Nice try
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Post by matty on May 15, 2021 13:24:10 GMT -5
Why do I have a feeling that new account isn't really a new person š¤
Either way go find a Tom message board. This board is for fans of Em. Ppl that like him.
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Post by matty on May 15, 2021 13:40:38 GMT -5
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Post by wunch on May 15, 2021 13:54:51 GMT -5
So which Tom fan group told it's members to come here and argue with all us crazy irrational stans? "Oh gosh oh golly I am so excited for this revolutionary partnership, whaaat you think Tom is racist? Oh, heavens!" Racism is not dead. Countless unarmed black men, though? They are dead, because of racism. Racism stained the entire Trump presidency, brought about qanon and the Proud Boys, and ultimately helped fuel the racist, virtually all-white insurrection on January 6th. Oh, and there was that one time a cop literally sat on a black man's neck for 10 minutes while he cried and begged for his mother as he suffocated to death over a counterfeit $20, which would not have happened to a white male (see Roof, Dylan). Big props to Eminem for soundly condemning all of those things. You notice no one thinks EM is a racist "just because he's white"? It's because he's not fucking racist. He acknowledges the black struggle. He doesn't pretend privilege doesn't exist. He has dedicated his life to a primarily black genre that he respects more than anything else on earth. He is good friends with actual black people. He doesn't bitch about BLM being "stupid" or make it out like everyone is screwed equally. He doesn't complain that everyone hates him just because he's guilty by association, like Tom does. Once again,my receipts are White Boy, Straight White Male, No Lives Matter, If I Was Black, People are Dumb, and Fake Woke. ALL songs in which Tom complains everyone is too easily offended and denies the existence of ANY injustice EXCEPT the injustice of being a straight white male with conservative values and how butthurt he is that people hate him "just because he's white" and not, idk, because he SHITS ALL OVER EXTREMELY RELEVANT SOCIAL PROBLEMS IN EVERY SONG. Okay, here I go. My āoh gosh, oh gollyā persona, is just me being me. Something Iāve struggled to be for a long time. I wouldnāt characterize myself like that, I was just coming in here trying to be my authentic self. Iām actually happy and learning how to relax... blah, blah, successful treatment, first time in forever, whatevs, sorry if that came across as irritating naivety. And I think I answered the āwhich fan groupā thing with my first response. Iāve looked up Tomās social media... I aināt a part of any group, no one ātold me to doā anything. Iāve been lurking here, I reached out here, thatās it. Crazy and irrational? No, I donāt think that. Viewing the world from a different viewpoint, spectrum, yes... I donāt think Iām finding quite the correct word, but trying to get this out quick cause I donāt want anyone hurting because of my random words on the Internet. George Floyd did not deserve to die that way. When he was calling out for his Mama, I heard him. Iām a Mama, and those videos made me cry. Also, George Floyd was high. He was resisting arrest. He was not a Saint. He was previously convicted of a home invasion. He and his cronies took a pregnant mother and her toddler hostage. This mother was threatened with a gun to her pregnant belly.... and now she sees a mural of that manās face when she walks down the street. (I donāt know if she actually walks down that street, but fuck, I canāt imagine what it would feel like to see someone who terrorized me like that, memorialized that way... wtf) Look up the numbers, more white people are killed by the police than any other race. Armed, unarmed... Fuck, Iām tired. When I said racism is dead, that was just to trigger a discourse... and then you said anyways, and I started thinking about coffeemate and Taco Bell.. focus, wunch! Wunch means wish auf Deutsch. No, focus. Racism is being weaponized by the media to divide us. Judge each other on the content of our characters. Right now, we are all being played by some system thatās working us to the bone to line their own pockets. Systemic racism has caused divides, and inconsistencies in what people have readily available to them, yes. But thatās not the fault of all folks lacking melanin... is that how you spell it? Stupid autocorrect! Wants me to type melatonin, and I know thats wrong. You know, coloring in skin. The march on the capital actually reminded me of White America. We marching up to Congress!!! Or however it went... But I do condemn it, it was not right what happened.... but it wasnāt fueled by racism, it was fueled by folks fed up with feeling their voices werenāt being heard, and didnāt matter. And, for America, thatās sad. Iām also not there right now... I only saw businesses burning over the summer from headlines in European news sources... so maybe Iām completely out of touch, I dunno... tired, sad, confused.... All those receipts you provided, I didnāt hear racism. I can really go into them... but Iāll be just as happy just talking Eminem shit. And, Iād like to hear Eminem and Tom doing a song together... highlighting ā the opposite sidesā, Iād be excited to hear something like that. But... not acceptable.
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