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Post by matty on Nov 18, 2022 11:31:15 GMT -5
Lol so there were 7,000 employees and now like 240 and pretty much every person in the engineering department is gone
Apparently the internal app for employees is already moving super slow
This should be interesting
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Post by sparrow on Nov 18, 2022 11:46:08 GMT -5
I think that was spread by a parody account. I saw it too!  It was a parody account. But did you see where Elon responded to him? He's a smart guy, but damn he is juvenile. He also "welcomed back" these 2 employees that were "fired" My bad on the parody account, oops! JMHO I don't give Elon any credit for his photo op with the two employees. He upended their entire lives by firing them without doing his due diligence in his haste to "clean house" and he'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think it's pathetic that he tweeted a pic like it made everything ok when those employees know exactly how vulnerable their source of income is and weren't in a position to say no to the billionaire boss who does not give a single fuck about their livelihoods. Tbh he put them in a really shitty position because it's likely a lot of their close friends got let go and now they have to pose with the person responsible so he can make his little statement about recognizing his mistakes. |
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Post by tcat on Nov 18, 2022 12:26:26 GMT -5
It was a parody account. But did you see where Elon responded to him? He's a smart guy, but damn he is juvenile. He also "welcomed back" these 2 employees that were "fired" Yeah, I actually saw he welcomed back two employees, I actually thought that was cool and showed maybe he can admit when he made a mistake. Most executives would not be so willing to admit they made or mistake or made a bad move. OK- so you are not in on the joke, so I will fill you in. I've been home sick this week, which is why I know this stuff. I realize most people don't live on Twitter...so here's the story... These two guys showed up at Twitter HQ with boxes in hand to say that they had been laid off. They said their names were Raul Ligma and Daniel Johnson...as in "lick my johnson". They were there to troll the media because, of course, the media fell for it. It was all a joke played on the media and Elon was "welcoming" them back. They never worked for Twitter and don't work for them now. This past week one of them said they had been fired from FTX. Also a joke. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Nov 18, 2022 12:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I actually saw he welcomed back two employees, I actually thought that was cool and showed maybe he can admit when he made a mistake. Most executives would not be so willing to admit they made or mistake or made a bad move. OK- so you are not in on the joke, so I will fill you in. I've been home sick this week, which is why I know this stuff. I realize most people don't live on Twitter...so here's the story... These two guys showed up at Twitter HQ with boxes in hand to say that they had been laid off. They said their names were Raul Ligma and Daniel Johnson...as in "lick my johnson". They were there to troll the media because, of course, the media fell for it. It was all a joke played on the media and Elon was "welcoming" them back. They never worked for Twitter and don't work for them now. This past week one of them said they had been fired from FTX. Also a joke. OMG! I was totally not in on the joke, I had NO clue. Thanks for giving me the run down! |
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Post by tcat on Nov 18, 2022 12:39:54 GMT -5
It was a parody account. But did you see where Elon responded to him? He's a smart guy, but damn he is juvenile. He also "welcomed back" these 2 employees that were "fired" My bad on the parody account, oops! JMHO I don't give Elon any credit for his photo op with the two employees. He upended their entire lives by firing them without doing his due diligence in his haste to "clean house" and he'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think it's pathetic that he tweeted a pic like it made everything ok when those employees know exactly how vulnerable their source of income is and weren't in a position to say no to the billionaire boss who does not give a single fuck about their livelihoods. Tbh he put them in a really shitty position because it's likely a lot of their close friends got let go and now they have to pose with the person responsible so he can make his little statement about recognizing his mistakes. Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. |
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Post by sparrow on Nov 18, 2022 12:52:02 GMT -5
My bad on the parody account, oops! JMHO I don't give Elon any credit for his photo op with the two employees. He upended their entire lives by firing them without doing his due diligence in his haste to "clean house" and he'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think it's pathetic that he tweeted a pic like it made everything ok when those employees know exactly how vulnerable their source of income is and weren't in a position to say no to the billionaire boss who does not give a single fuck about their livelihoods. Tbh he put them in a really shitty position because it's likely a lot of their close friends got let go and now they have to pose with the person responsible so he can make his little statement about recognizing his mistakes. Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. tcat, no disrespect--sincerely--but you and I have opposite viewpoints on every politicized issue I've seen posted here and I don't want to get into a debate where no one is going to change their mind. I am sorry that I misinterpreted your post, but I absolutely disagree with this take on Elon and the layoffs and am just going to leave it there. |
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Post by matty on Nov 18, 2022 12:54:45 GMT -5
My bad on the parody account, oops! JMHO I don't give Elon any credit for his photo op with the two employees. He upended their entire lives by firing them without doing his due diligence in his haste to "clean house" and he'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think it's pathetic that he tweeted a pic like it made everything ok when those employees know exactly how vulnerable their source of income is and weren't in a position to say no to the billionaire boss who does not give a single fuck about their livelihoods. Tbh he put them in a really shitty position because it's likely a lot of their close friends got let go and now they have to pose with the person responsible so he can make his little statement about recognizing his mistakes. Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. They are already have internal issues according to inside sources and it hasn’t even been a day elon is an idiot who got to play with daddy’s money and lied about his fucking degrees. He’s basically Kanye and trump and combined im in the tech space; this shit isn’t going to get better under Elon. He’s gonna have to sell or something is gonna have to happen asap it was his thought process that he could go into billions of debt and make Twitter profitable by charging for a blue check mark which cost him the only money he was making with Twitter aka advertisers |
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Post by tcat on Nov 18, 2022 12:59:15 GMT -5
Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. tcat, no disrespect--sincerely--but you and I have opposite viewpoints on every politicized issue I've seen posted here and I don't want to get into a debate where no one is going to change their mind. I am sorry that I misinterpreted your post, but I absolutely disagree with this take on Elon and the layoffs and am just going to leave it there. Why is this a political issue? Interesting. We can agree to disagree. I mean no disrespect either. Like I said before, I could be wrong and the whole thing could crash next week. |
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Post by matty on Nov 18, 2022 13:16:48 GMT -5
Bhahaahahaha I’m leaving issues accessing my account already
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Post by vickvaporub on Nov 18, 2022 13:40:31 GMT -5
My bad on the parody account, oops! JMHO I don't give Elon any credit for his photo op with the two employees. He upended their entire lives by firing them without doing his due diligence in his haste to "clean house" and he'd do it again in a heartbeat. I think it's pathetic that he tweeted a pic like it made everything ok when those employees know exactly how vulnerable their source of income is and weren't in a position to say no to the billionaire boss who does not give a single fuck about their livelihoods. Tbh he put them in a really shitty position because it's likely a lot of their close friends got let go and now they have to pose with the person responsible so he can make his little statement about recognizing his mistakes. Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. The only thing I can comment is that yes, the site can very well run okeyish for an undetermined amount of time until it doesn't and it's time to find what's not working and you don't have the people that know what to fix, where it is with a system as big and complex as Twitter, the volume of users and with a bunch of new employees and very little of the experienced ones. Not that it's impossible but very slow for new employees (even skilled ones). And if it's true that the whole department that takes care of paying the employees is gone that's a whole lot of issues too. |
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Post by tcat on Nov 18, 2022 15:52:46 GMT -5
Ligma and Johnson is a joke. Please see my post above. As for him letting people go with no notice...that unfortunately is how lay offs usually go. I think he was making a clean sweep of employees who would do harm to the company. Like I said before, they have loudly announced their dislike of Elon. What would you do if you were in his shoes? If you spent a lot of money to buy a company and your new employees are very loud about how much they don't like you, and also how much they don't want to work for you. Would you keep them? Or would you get rid of them, pay them a severance and let them find other employment they will be happy with and you hire people who believe in your vision and want to work for you? All this talk about how many employees are quiting but no discussion on how many people actually want to work for Elon. For every employee that has quit, he probably has 100+ resumes. Not that everyone who wants to work for Elon has the skills he is looking for but there are a lot of people that want to be part of his plan. I've seen hundreds on twitter replying to him that they will come work for him. Not the traditional way to get a job but I bet a few of them actually get hired. And if all these employees have quit, shouldn't Twitter have crashed by now? Maybe all these employees weren't needed. He did tell investors he planned on eliminating 75% of the jobs at Twitter. Looks like that is what he is doing. He sees Twitter as a software company and that seems to be where his focus is. Most of Twitter employees will probably be software/hardware engineers. The only thing I can comment is that yes, the site can very well run okeyish for an undetermined amount of time until it doesn't and it's time to find what's not working and you don't have the people that know what to fix, where it is with a system as big and complex as Twitter, the volume of users and with a bunch of new employees and very little of the experienced ones. Not that it's impossible but very slow for new employees (even skilled ones). And if it's true that the whole department that takes care of paying the employees is gone that's a whole lot of issues too. I don't disagree with you. In fact, I don't disagree with what most on here have said about the issue. I think Elon has purposely made this chaotic as a way of weeding out people that should probably work somewhere else. But I too have cringed at some of the things he has done...like firing an employee publically on Twitter! I don't approve. This guy has a thread on Twitter that probably explains better what I was saying: |
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Post by matty on Nov 18, 2022 18:05:45 GMT -5
Lmaooo a tech company begging to find someone who codes
Can’t make this shit up
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Post by alphagirl01 on Nov 18, 2022 19:07:25 GMT -5
The only thing I can comment is that yes, the site can very well run okeyish for an undetermined amount of time until it doesn't and it's time to find what's not working and you don't have the people that know what to fix, where it is with a system as big and complex as Twitter, the volume of users and with a bunch of new employees and very little of the experienced ones. Not that it's impossible but very slow for new employees (even skilled ones). And if it's true that the whole department that takes care of paying the employees is gone that's a whole lot of issues too. I don't disagree with you. In fact, I don't disagree with what most on here have said about the issue. I think Elon has purposely made this chaotic as a way of weeding out people that should probably work somewhere else. But I too have cringed at some of the things he has done...like firing an employee publically on Twitter! I don't approve. This guy has a thread on Twitter that probably explains better what I was saying: This makes a lot of sense what the guy explained when you look at it from an executive viewpoint and not an employee view. The goals and vision should always be aligned and if they are not people should move on. I am not a fan of Elon however, but I do understand the whaling and culling and why someone might use that tactic. It's not very people-friendly, but at the end of the day, I am sure stockholders want him to do whatever it takes to make their investment pay off. People like Elon is what corporate America is all about. That old adage, don't hate the player, hate the game applies here. Many Fortune 50 and Fortune 500 leaders are just like him but are not vocal or use their platform like he does. I prefer the snake to be where I can see it. No surprises. |
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Post by sparrow on Nov 18, 2022 19:14:14 GMT -5
"Dont hate the player, hate the game" is probably why I'll always be broke lol. I hate the player. I hate them so much, because they won and then they perpetuated the same shitty rules that fuck everyone unwilling to step on other people on their way to the top, instead of trying to change them. The game is an abstract concept that would cease to exist without willing participants.
As always this is not an attack...just my hippie ramblings!
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Post by alphagirl01 on Nov 18, 2022 19:39:11 GMT -5
"Dont hate the player, hate the game" is probably why I'll always be broke lol. I hate the player. I hate them so much, because they made it to the top of the game and then they perpetuated the same shitty rules that fuck everyone unwilling to step on other people on their way to the top, instead of trying to change them. The game is an abstract concept that would cease to exist without willing participants. As always this is not an attack...just my hippie ramblings lol That is capitalism though. America, as well as other first world nations built their empires on this type of behavior, for goodness sake it is this mentality that uprooted Native Americans and kidnapped, stole and bought people from the African continent and held them as indentured slaves for more than 200 years AS FREE LABOR. So I am already there with you. This game has been going on before America became a nation, so like I said, hate the game and when we truly get to that mindset collectively, it will crumble. One of the many reason I work for myself. |
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