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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 26, 2022 10:35:54 GMT -5
Wow Mockingbird got a stronger hold on tiktok than Superman ❤
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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 26, 2022 15:07:41 GMT -5
Is When Im Gone his closest video to 1 billion?
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Post by josie78 on Oct 27, 2022 22:04:11 GMT -5
The truth is once your dreams come true no one ever teaches you how to handle it all. Happily ever after comes with its own set of problems, issues. Everything shifts. Problems and insecurities get replaced with new ones. He fought for the financial security so his family would have a better life. He comes from a lack mindset. So now that he made it, he’s probably afraid of losing it. Not the fame but the security. Given that he’s surrounded by so many people who were able to let go of those fears and evolve, I’m honestly surprised he hasn’t Even more so considering his very hard self work in the 12 step community. He lives in a bubble of his own creation which isn’t healthy for many reasons. His low self worth is keeping him from having more of a role, actually the role he should have over his work, business, what he invests in. I’m curious how much gaslighting has occurred over the years with those who work for him. It’s almost like he doesn’t comprehend that he’s the boss. I’ve hoped for years that he would meet someone like that. But given his bubble, I imagine that many women he has met over the years were subjected to some uncomfortable meddling that lead to their exit due to on hangers not wanting to lose their position. I even held and still hold hope now that his kids are grown maybe that would open up some space in his life. That has always broken my heart for Kim. I truly believe her when she said she never wanted to be famous. That infamy has held her back in life, aside from parenting which is the hardest job in the world, she has never had the ability to indulge in a career or interests of her own. But this is all a long winded way of saying I’m with you on this. I believe he needs both. Not just a new person but some new people and some hobbies. Midnight is great. I am surprised how much I like it. Is Midnight a track? I don't think I have heard it before. josie78, why do you think Eminem is so insecure at this stage in his life. I know we both have said education played a factor, but with all the "yes" men probably telling him how fabulous he is, you would think some confidence has come, especially since he is fire with his lyricism. Regarding Kim, I really don't have much sympathy for her because women overcome every day, some in worse shape than her who are single moms with no father in sight, no family help, yet they not only survive, but put themselves through college, get careers and take care of multiple children. She had all the tools to push forward, maybe except mental and she had the money to get the therapy. Marshall had similar limitations and at one point had to be the full time parent and a world famous artist, so I will not be shedding any tears for Kim. I have volunteered for programs and seen women with a lot less resources at their fingertips, but do way more and some of them had deep mental illness, and some have to deal with physical abuse and racism on top of it. Those women are true heroes in my eyes. But, I get where you are coming from. Is it okay to respond here or move it to another thread? I believe there are multiple reasons why he’s so insecure at this stage in his life. Again it goes back to no one tells you what happens when all of your dreams come true. All of your old problems and struggles get replaced with new ones. You saw at the beginning he began to create his own safety bubble. He has stayed in there, the only real changes are those inside. He hasn’t done anything to expand himself the way others have done. He puts so much of himself in to the hands of others because his insecurities, inability to handle particular things. I’d rather see him lose money taking risks he believes in, instead of Paul’s dumb label and other artists. I do think his one real space of confidence is in his talent, writing ability. He needs to diversify, create more. He said acting drained him, Why not produce more? Do more soundtracks? Get Royce a McDonald’s application? As for Kim, I understand where you’re coming from but one thing we teach in therapy is we can’t compare someone else’s pain, trauma or existence. If we get in a car accident and I break both arms, you break both legs, We can’t argue over who is hurt the most or compare who has it worse because we both had that painful, traumatic experience. Minimizing someone’s trauma, pain, problems because of their resources is dangerous. We don’t know what’s going on inside of them. Not everyone has the ability to see the light. Look at Oprah, she has all the access to trainers, chefs, nutritionists but she still yoyo’s with her weight. All the money in the world can’t heal a person or get them to heal themselves. It has to come from deeply within.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Oct 27, 2022 22:43:08 GMT -5
Is Midnight a track? I don't think I have heard it before. josie78 , why do you think Eminem is so insecure at this stage in his life. I know we both have said education played a factor, but with all the "yes" men probably telling him how fabulous he is, you would think some confidence has come, especially since he is fire with his lyricism. Regarding Kim, I really don't have much sympathy for her because women overcome every day, some in worse shape than her who are single moms with no father in sight, no family help, yet they not only survive, but put themselves through college, get careers and take care of multiple children. She had all the tools to push forward, maybe except mental and she had the money to get the therapy. Marshall had similar limitations and at one point had to be the full time parent and a world famous artist, so I will not be shedding any tears for Kim. I have volunteered for programs and seen women with a lot less resources at their fingertips, but do way more and some of them had deep mental illness, and some have to deal with physical abuse and racism on top of it. Those women are true heroes in my eyes. But, I get where you are coming from. Is it okay to respond here or move it to another thread? I believe there are multiple reasons why he’s so insecure at this stage in his life. Again it goes back to no one tells you what happens when all of your dreams come true. All of your old problems and struggles get replaced with new ones. You saw at the beginning he began to create his own safety bubble. He has stayed in there, the only real changes are those inside. He hasn’t done anything to expand himself the way others have done. He puts so much of himself in to the hands of others because his insecurities, inability to handle particular things. I’d rather see him lose money taking risks he believes in, instead of Paul’s dumb label and other artists. I do think his one real space of confidence is in his talent, writing ability. He needs to diversify, create more. He said acting drained him, Why not produce more? Do more soundtracks? Get Royce a McDonald’s application? As for Kim, I understand where you’re coming from but one thing we teach in therapy is we can’t compare someone else’s pain, trauma or existence. If we get in a car accident and I break both arms, you break both legs, We can’t argue over who is hurt the most or compare who has it worse because we both had that painful, traumatic experience. Minimizing someone’s trauma, pain, problems because of their resources is dangerous. We don’t know what’s going on inside of them. Not everyone has the ability to see the light. Look at Oprah, she has all the access to trainers, chefs, nutritionists but she still yoyo’s with her weight. All the money in the world can’t heal a person or get them to heal themselves. It has to come from deeply within. Funny you mentioned Oprah, because I was asking someone the other day why can't she keep her weight off. All she have to do is tell her chef not to cook certain things or let her eat them.
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2022 0:23:12 GMT -5
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Post by sparrow on Oct 28, 2022 12:24:02 GMT -5
Is Midnight a track? I don't think I have heard it before. josie78, why do you think Eminem is so insecure at this stage in his life. I know we both have said education played a factor, but with all the "yes" men probably telling him how fabulous he is, you would think some confidence has come, especially since he is fire with his lyricism. Regarding Kim, I really don't have much sympathy for her because women overcome every day, some in worse shape than her who are single moms with no father in sight, no family help, yet they not only survive, but put themselves through college, get careers and take care of multiple children. She had all the tools to push forward, maybe except mental and she had the money to get the therapy. Marshall had similar limitations and at one point had to be the full time parent and a world famous artist, so I will not be shedding any tears for Kim. I have volunteered for programs and seen women with a lot less resources at their fingertips, but do way more and some of them had deep mental illness, and some have to deal with physical abuse and racism on top of it. Those women are true heroes in my eyes. But, I get where you are coming from. Is it okay to respond here or move it to another thread? I believe there are multiple reasons why he’s so insecure at this stage in his life. Again it goes back to no one tells you what happens when all of your dreams come true. All of your old problems and struggles get replaced with new ones. You saw at the beginning he began to create his own safety bubble. He has stayed in there, the only real changes are those inside. He hasn’t done anything to expand himself the way others have done. He puts so much of himself in to the hands of others because his insecurities, inability to handle particular things. I’d rather see him lose money taking risks he believes in, instead of Paul’s dumb label and other artists. I do think his one real space of confidence is in his talent, writing ability. He needs to diversify, create more. He said acting drained him, Why not produce more? Do more soundtracks? Get Royce a McDonald’s application? As for Kim, I understand where you’re coming from but one thing we teach in therapy is we can’t compare someone else’s pain, trauma or existence. If we get in a car accident and I break both arms, you break both legs, We can’t argue over who is hurt the most or compare who has it worse because we both had that painful, traumatic experience. Minimizing someone’s trauma, pain, problems because of their resources is dangerous. We don’t know what’s going on inside of them. Not everyone has the ability to see the light. Look at Oprah, she has all the access to trainers, chefs, nutritionists but she still yoyo’s with her weight. All the money in the world can’t heal a person or get them to heal themselves. It has to come from deeply within. I love this post. This is all speculation as usual but I have a feeling with Kim a lot of her deal is that no one has really ever taken care of her emotionally. Not her parents, relatives, friends, lovers, not anyone. Ppl say no one has anything good to say about Kim, my question is has she ever had someone who saw her as a person with value? Her kids are probably the closest thing and that's not their role. I'm sure Em tried his best for someone else who didn't know how to love and had terrible coping skills but it was sporadic and ffs he used a blow-up doll to represent her in front of millions of people. She has money now but being Em's psycho ex haunts her like a damn ghost. I wonder if she has ever been able to break the pattern of instability and trauma bonding with people who also aren't emotionally equipped to treat her well. I hope she has been able to get some therapy that wasn't court mandated. Then the addiction issues. Em has the whole world supporting him, she has people waiting for her to fail so they can go oh there's crazy Kim again. Idk. I've always felt for her. As for Em, I do feel like he's done a lot of self-work. He's talked about his own therapy and I hear program (AA) themes in the way he speaks sometimes. He also has a calmness to him now that he didn't before when he was anxious and frenetic 24/7. I think he's probably on meds that work for him. I absolutely 100% think though that he has deep seated issues with getting approval from other people. He's admitted that getting respect is what drives him...and it's a slippery slope between respect and people pleasing. It's weird to think about Em as someone who can be a doormat, as aggressive as he can be in other ways. But wherever you fall on if Paul is overall good or bad for him, does anyone think Em would stand firm on not doing something if Paul and the team really put the pressure on him? Laid it on thick and said if he missed out on this he'd regret it forever? Maybe implied that if he retires now it will look bad? Thst he's letting people down because his peers and Paul's shitty new acts are part of Em's legacy too as the shady records namesake? It's dangerous imo bc they probably could squeeze another tour out of him if they tried hard enough. I feel like that's his last stand, his big boundary, and I hope he holds firm. As for the children of the corn eyes. Him staring at ppl seems to be a recurring theme. I've heard it enough over the years to believe it. I feel like we saw it to a certain extent with his behavior in the bored ape promo with Snoop when he looked miserable. Maybe he wasn't miserable; maybe he just dropped the veneer and we saw the thousand yard gaze he always has. I don't like to speculate on that too much because it leads to armchair psychological diagnoses I'm not qualified to make, but something is going on there. I don't think he gets out of his own head very much.
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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 28, 2022 17:57:39 GMT -5
Mockingbird's power 🤧
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Post by alphagirl01 on Oct 28, 2022 19:07:55 GMT -5
That song makes me cry every time!
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Post by Admin on Oct 28, 2022 22:29:08 GMT -5
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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 28, 2022 22:51:18 GMT -5
That song makes me cry every time! It got the whole internet on their feelings! I guess we all need someone to tell us everything is going to be alright 😭😭😭
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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 31, 2022 16:07:16 GMT -5
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Post by Admin on Nov 2, 2022 22:42:16 GMT -5
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Post by vickvaporub on Nov 3, 2022 11:15:21 GMT -5
Mockingbird enters Spotify Global Chart top 50 💗🐦
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Post by vickvaporub on Nov 3, 2022 12:22:12 GMT -5
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Post by vickvaporub on Nov 4, 2022 12:10:56 GMT -5
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