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Post by vickvaporub on Aug 18, 2022 12:57:51 GMT -5
Someone made a good point on Twitter. If Ems team was "nice" they could give Skylar her catalog back and she would start banking on sales but we know there’s no way Paul is going to lose out on the money that a song like love the way you lie brings in. Im sure Em could care less I mean he’s wealthy without her few songs but it’s everyone else that’s involved that gets paid off her songs. I do feel bad that she has to watch all of them make loads of money while she’s still trying to blow up as an artist which hate to say will likely never happen for her. Her best bet is Em continues to us her as the hooks girl. That really does suck for a lot of artist that have worked with him. Unless the ey were already established artist they aren’t getting paid anything or enough compared to the numbers his songs do. Dina Rae one time showed a check she got from streaming of Superman in a think like a month and it was only $500. I get paid a lot more then that at my 9-5 in a week! Yes, artists make very little from streaming :/ the money it's on live performances + merch I think. Do we know who bought skylar's catalog? 👀
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Post by me on Aug 18, 2022 14:53:53 GMT -5
I want to know why they keep shoving Royce down our throats Dude is even nasty to Paul on lives. And during Paul’s pod last episode James was sucking Royce off so hard and the reviewed caterpillar which wasn’t even Ems song!! Same with homicide! That video didn’t even do well, it wasn’t Ems song and not on CC2. Wtf did they discuss it. EM WASNT EVEN IN THE VIDEOOOOO. This is just a big ego stroke for everyone but Em. Idk if Paul’s ego doesn’t want to admit that Royce was a mistake so he is trying to defend bme because Em was pissed over rhe SH mess or what. Like being see?!! Not everything was bad!! But his team is SO weird and nasty and completely ignore how much shit talking Royce has done to Em and how his bestie almost destroyed his career and caused so much fucking drama dude Why are there like 20 million ppl in his circle with their own agenda and egos. And why is Em the most famous but most seemlingly the most humble. I hate thissss. I don’t think we have gotten the real Em in a while. Everything is just Paul telling him what to say I’m not even gonna trust what Em says in his episodes. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul wrote a script for Em to reply to his questions 🙄 Well one of the things I like the most about Em is that he is humble! I couldn’t care less about someone when they start acting cocky and arrogant, that’s like the biggest downer ever! Maybe that’s why he’s the most famous 🤷🏼♀️ And unfortunately most stans online seem to support Royce still… after being on this board you think everyone hates Royce but then go on twitter/instagram/facebook and pretty much everyone interacting with him are just nice to him, trying to get his attention… disappointing
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Post by me on Aug 18, 2022 14:54:04 GMT -5
I want to know why they keep shoving Royce down our throats Dude is even nasty to Paul on lives. And during Paul’s pod last episode James was sucking Royce off so hard and the reviewed caterpillar which wasn’t even Ems song!! Same with homicide! That video didn’t even do well, it wasn’t Ems song and not on CC2. Wtf did they discuss it. EM WASNT EVEN IN THE VIDEOOOOO. This is just a big ego stroke for everyone but Em. Idk if Paul’s ego doesn’t want to admit that Royce was a mistake so he is trying to defend bme because Em was pissed over rhe SH mess or what. Like being see?!! Not everything was bad!! But his team is SO weird and nasty and completely ignore how much shit talking Royce has done to Em and how his bestie almost destroyed his career and caused so much fucking drama dude Why are there like 20 million ppl in his circle with their own agenda and egos. And why is Em the most famous but most seemlingly the most humble. I hate thissss. I don’t think we have gotten the real Em in a while. Everything is just Paul telling him what to say I’m not even gonna trust what Em says in his episodes. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul wrote a script for Em to reply to his questions 🙄 Well one of the things I like the most about Em is that he is humble! I couldn’t care less about someone when they start acting cocky and arrogant, that’s like the biggest downer ever! Maybe that’s why he’s the most famous 🤷🏼♀️ And unfortunately most stans online seem to support Royce still… after being on this board you think everyone hates Royce but then go on twitter/instagram/facebook and pretty much everyone interacting with him are just nice to him, trying to get his attention… disappointing
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Post by matty on Aug 18, 2022 15:08:04 GMT -5
I want to know why they keep shoving Royce down our throats Dude is even nasty to Paul on lives. And during Paul’s pod last episode James was sucking Royce off so hard and the reviewed caterpillar which wasn’t even Ems song!! Same with homicide! That video didn’t even do well, it wasn’t Ems song and not on CC2. Wtf did they discuss it. EM WASNT EVEN IN THE VIDEOOOOO. This is just a big ego stroke for everyone but Em. Idk if Paul’s ego doesn’t want to admit that Royce was a mistake so he is trying to defend bme because Em was pissed over rhe SH mess or what. Like being see?!! Not everything was bad!! But his team is SO weird and nasty and completely ignore how much shit talking Royce has done to Em and how his bestie almost destroyed his career and caused so much fucking drama dude Why are there like 20 million ppl in his circle with their own agenda and egos. And why is Em the most famous but most seemlingly the most humble. I hate thissss. I don’t think we have gotten the real Em in a while. Everything is just Paul telling him what to say I’m not even gonna trust what Em says in his episodes. At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul wrote a script for Em to reply to his questions 🙄 Well one of the things I like the most about Em is that he is humble! I couldn’t care less about someone when they start acting cocky and arrogant, that’s like the biggest downer ever! Maybe that’s why he’s the most famous 🤷🏼♀️ And unfortunately most stans online seem to support Royce still… after being on this board you think everyone hates Royce but then go on twitter/instagram/facebook and pretty much everyone interacting with him are just nice to him, trying to get his attention… disappointing Idk Twitter is it’s own delusional clout chasing world but on YouTube most ppl are sick of his shit and even on Twitter some PLL are sick of him and all they do is suck up to ppl with blue check marks also Twitter isn’t reality in general. the comments are getting more annoyed with him. Even on his Instagram. He was just on maths podcast and he got a lot of hate from the comments also keep in Royce Royce blocks ppl on his socials lol. And he doesn’t even get many comments and his lives get like an average of 400 ppl context is imp even Jamie Lynne spears gets love on her socials and everyone almost hates her but his interviews are getting more hate and everyone he does the worst he looks
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Post by matty on Aug 18, 2022 15:28:10 GMT -5
I just want crook to go all out
Royce lies every time he opens his damn mouth ; I hope Em sees how shitty Royce has treated crook and just leaves him on read longer. He might not have the balls to defend himself but Em usually stands up for others. Royce is just running around slandering crook and Joel like a petty bitch
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 18, 2022 15:53:18 GMT -5
Someone made a good point on Twitter. If Ems team was "nice" they could give Skylar her catalog back and she would start banking on sales but we know there’s no way Paul is going to lose out on the money that a song like love the way you lie brings in. Im sure Em could care less I mean he’s wealthy without her few songs but it’s everyone else that’s involved that gets paid off her songs. I do feel bad that she has to watch all of them make loads of money while she’s still trying to blow up as an artist which hate to say will likely never happen for her. Her best bet is Em continues to us her as the hooks girl. That really does suck for a lot of artist that have worked with him. Unless the ey were already established artist they aren’t getting paid anything or enough compared to the numbers his songs do. Dina Rae one time showed a check she got from streaming of Superman in a think like a month and it was only $500. I get paid a lot more then that at my 9-5 in a week! Marshall always talks about how close he is to Skylar and vice versa, I don't understand why he didn't purchase the music that featured him and Dre. I mean it would be a win-win for him. He could help a friend while holding on to his music and when she was in a good financial position she could buy them back from him. That's tight friendship! He had nothing to lose either, because if she could never buy them back, he would own the music that he performs. That would have been a solid business move for both of them, and royalties his girls would have forever. Like that is where Elvis's daughter is sitting pretty, her mom fought to get his rights for a lot of his music. Paul owns half of Shady, I just hope he does not own half of the Eminem and Slim Shady IP, and if so not in perpetuity because that is legacy money. To this day, someone Marilyn Monroe never met gets all the proceeds to her image and likeness because her manager got everything when she died. He later married a woman and when he died she inherited Marilyn Monroe's "image". So when you buy a Marilyn t-shirt, post card, etc., this lady gets paid. Okay, sorry for my tangent.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 18, 2022 16:15:56 GMT -5
Is there anyway to see how many people are listening to the podcast? Cause I just don’t see how an artists manager is getting that many listens, espesh when he’s put out a schedule of who appears and when as there’s no way ima listen to any until it’s Ems turn! Maybe I’ll listen to Skylars, she posted a story yesterday or the day before about how she really wishes she didn’t sell her catalogue along with a photo of CC2 at number 1 and then I went and read about it and about her royalties that she would’ve got, can’t imagine how crap that would make any artist feel. Would be interesting to compare how many listeners Paul’s podcast vs Hailie’s podcast have Definitely Hailie because fans hope to get a peek into Em's life through her. You can tell by her podcast numbers that are trending downward. They got a boost because of the Game's diss. But they were trending down consecutively, which is not typical for a true influencer, who is influential based on their own merit rather than an association to another brand. When fans realized that Marshall wasn't making an appearance (he may in the future) and he wasn't the core topic, she got less and less views as the weeks went by. The Game's diss definitely gave her podcast a boost this past week.
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Post by shimy on Aug 18, 2022 18:14:18 GMT -5
Would be interesting to compare how many listeners Paul’s podcast vs Hailie’s podcast have Definitely Hailie because fans hope to get a peek into Em's life through her. You can tell by her podcast numbers that are trending downward. They got a boost because of the Game's diss. But they were trending down consecutively, which is not typical for a true influencer, who is influential based on their own merit rather than an association to another brand. When fans realized that Marshall wasn't making an appearance (he may in the future) and he wasn't the core topic, she got less and less views as the weeks went by. The Game's diss definitely gave her podcast a boost this past week. View AttachmentI’m not shocked but I am that people thought she’d base her whole podcast around her and him. She’s barely touched the surface anyway with her stories and only seems to bring him up when he had involvement in that weeks topics but that’s not even a guarantee cause she didn’t mention him in her college episode. If you look at her comments I’d say 99 percent is his fans mentioning wanting him on the show or for her to talk about him and his music. But I’ll say that’s what happens when she uses Shady in her podcast name. People will expect more stories about Eminem.
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Post by shimy on Aug 18, 2022 18:21:55 GMT -5
Someone made a good point on Twitter. If Ems team was "nice" they could give Skylar her catalog back and she would start banking on sales but we know there’s no way Paul is going to lose out on the money that a song like love the way you lie brings in. Im sure Em could care less I mean he’s wealthy without her few songs but it’s everyone else that’s involved that gets paid off her songs. I do feel bad that she has to watch all of them make loads of money while she’s still trying to blow up as an artist which hate to say will likely never happen for her. Her best bet is Em continues to us her as the hooks girl. That really does suck for a lot of artist that have worked with him. Unless the ey were already established artist they aren’t getting paid anything or enough compared to the numbers his songs do. Dina Rae one time showed a check she got from streaming of Superman in a think like a month and it was only $500. I get paid a lot more then that at my 9-5 in a week! Woah wait did Ems team buy her catalogue? I can see Em not wanting others to make anything off of his songs so it would make sense for them to buy it but would explain the lack of her support of CC2 coming out if they’re reaping her royalties when she put in the effort for the songs for him?? I dunno lol, I’m not that much of a Skylar fan, I wouldn’t buy her music or anything unless it’s an Em song, it just must be a shit situation for her, like if that’s as me it would put me in a really dark place. If it wasn’t the catalogue it was the rights to everything shes ever done with him. Musicians do it all the time when they are close to another musician who might financially need their catalogs they give it back whether it’s selling it for a low price or simply giving them the rights back. That’s why I’m concerned as to why they never decided to give it back to her after she settled her divorce it’s not like Em needs the money. That’s all Paul. But same I’m not her fan and frankly think he could do without her music (sorry lol) But I couldn’t imagine making a hit song watching him and his team make millions off my song while I’m doing everything I can to make money. That’s why I say Paul has an underlying reason for his podcast especially putting Skylar and Royce as guest. It’s like he’s trying to make us think Em is best buddies with both of them but from what we’ve heard through her husband and other rappers Em isn’t close to those two at all and hasn’t been for a good minute.
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Post by tcat on Aug 18, 2022 19:36:37 GMT -5
One last thing regarding Paul’s pod After listening to the episodes it’s clear to me that Paul and the “team” dont understand WHY Em fans love him. Like they really don’t get what makes him so special to us and are shocked that the love doesn’t just automatically transfer to them or wonder why their marketing doesn’t work. THIS!!!
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Post by tcat on Aug 18, 2022 19:39:54 GMT -5
Someone made a good point on Twitter. If Ems team was "nice" they could give Skylar her catalog back and she would start banking on sales but we know there’s no way Paul is going to lose out on the money that a song like love the way you lie brings in. Im sure Em could care less I mean he’s wealthy without her few songs but it’s everyone else that’s involved that gets paid off her songs. I do feel bad that she has to watch all of them make loads of money while she’s still trying to blow up as an artist which hate to say will likely never happen for her. Her best bet is Em continues to us her as the hooks girl. That really does suck for a lot of artist that have worked with him. Unless the ey were already established artist they aren’t getting paid anything or enough compared to the numbers his songs do. Dina Rae one time showed a check she got from streaming of Superman in a think like a month and it was only $500. I get paid a lot more then that at my 9-5 in a week! Is Paul the one who bought her catalog? I mean is he in a position to give it back to her? Or are they saying that he could give her a cut since she no longer owns the rights? Who did she sell the catalog to? And how bad was her divorce lawyer that she had to sell her catalog to give money to her ex?
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 18, 2022 20:48:09 GMT -5
Definitely Hailie because fans hope to get a peek into Em's life through her. You can tell by her podcast numbers that are trending downward. They got a boost because of the Game's diss. But they were trending down consecutively, which is not typical for a true influencer, who is influential based on their own merit rather than an association to another brand. When fans realized that Marshall wasn't making an appearance (he may in the future) and he wasn't the core topic, she got less and less views as the weeks went by. The Game's diss definitely gave her podcast a boost this past week. View AttachmentI’m not shocked but I am that people thought she’d base her whole podcast around her and him. She’s barely touched the surface anyway with her stories and only seems to bring him up when he had involvement in that weeks topics but that’s not even a guarantee cause she didn’t mention him in her college episode. If you look at her comments I’d say 99 percent is his fans mentioning wanting him on the show or for her to talk about him and his music. But I’ll say that’s what happens when she uses Shady in her podcast name. People will expect more stories about Eminem. Yeah, she definitely strategically used that name to pander to his fan base. She is even calling them Hailiens on Instagram. Fans always said her father was an alien and Marshall said the same thing about himself, so she is using that as well. I guess being a beauty influencer wasn't panning out, so she decided to do the podcast. I don't think she is with her agency anymore either. She has got to find her own niche separate from her dad or fully in conjunction with him. Even though I am not a fan at all, the Kardashians have mastered that get famous because your family is famous and they each created their own thing and has their own fans. Hailie needs to grow a fan base of people who are there because of her and not her dad or else she is not going to make money off her own brand. It also explains why she doesn't get higher tier press. Snoop's son Cordell brought something to his dad's business, his young perspective and it is working well for Snoop. I'm not sure Hailie is as business savvy as Cordell though. Cordell has that entrepreneur hustle. As an Instagram influencer Hailie barely posted. You can't be a serious influencer if you not grinding on the daily. She grinding like an heiress. But hopefully she picking up her game with the podcast!
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Post by shimy on Aug 18, 2022 22:01:47 GMT -5
Someone made a good point on Twitter. If Ems team was "nice" they could give Skylar her catalog back and she would start banking on sales but we know there’s no way Paul is going to lose out on the money that a song like love the way you lie brings in. Im sure Em could care less I mean he’s wealthy without her few songs but it’s everyone else that’s involved that gets paid off her songs. I do feel bad that she has to watch all of them make loads of money while she’s still trying to blow up as an artist which hate to say will likely never happen for her. Her best bet is Em continues to us her as the hooks girl. That really does suck for a lot of artist that have worked with him. Unless the ey were already established artist they aren’t getting paid anything or enough compared to the numbers his songs do. Dina Rae one time showed a check she got from streaming of Superman in a think like a month and it was only $500. I get paid a lot more then that at my 9-5 in a week! Is Paul the one who bought her catalog? I mean is he in a position to give it back to her? Or are they saying that he could give her a cut since she no longer owns the rights? Who did she sell the catalog to? And how bad was her divorce lawyer that she had to sell her catalog to give money to her ex? Honestly I’m not sure about exactly who she sold it to but I’d assume she sold it to Shady Records. If Em is the owner like it seems, his label (Paul) bought it so they are getting all the profit from it which is why she wishes she hadn’t sold everything over to them cause of CC2’s sales.
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Post by shimy on Aug 18, 2022 22:10:52 GMT -5
I’m not shocked but I am that people thought she’d base her whole podcast around her and him. She’s barely touched the surface anyway with her stories and only seems to bring him up when he had involvement in that weeks topics but that’s not even a guarantee cause she didn’t mention him in her college episode. If you look at her comments I’d say 99 percent is his fans mentioning wanting him on the show or for her to talk about him and his music. But I’ll say that’s what happens when she uses Shady in her podcast name. People will expect more stories about Eminem. Yeah, she definitely strategically used that name to pander to his fan base. She is even calling them Hailiens on Instagram. Fans always said her father was an alien and Marshall said the same thing about himself, so she is using that as well. I guess being a beauty influencer wasn't panning out, so she decided to do the podcast. I don't think she is with her agency anymore either. She has got to find her own niche separate from her dad or fully in conjunction with him. Even though I am not a fan at all, the Kardashians have mastered that get famous because your family is famous and they each created their own thing and has their own fans. Hailie needs to grow a fan base of people who are there because of her and not her dad or else she is not going to make money off her own brand. It also explains why she doesn't get higher tier press. Snoop's son Cordell brought something to his dad's business, his young perspective and it is working well for Snoop. I'm not sure Hailie is as business savvy as Cordell though. Cordell has that entrepreneur hustle. As an Instagram influencer Hailie barely posted. You can't be a serious influencer if you not grinding on the daily. She grinding like an heiress. But hopefully she picking up her game with the podcast! You said what I’ve been saying when it comes to the change in her career path lol Yes and she does need to make her own name cause his fans will only follow her journey for so long if she doesn’t give them what they hope for which is her dad one day being on her show. I’m sure the podcast views will only stager since her first one cause people see she won’t be having him on her show anytime soon. I also don’t think he will likely ever be on her show because how fair is that to his other kids that are trying to be influencers or build a career on social media? We know as soon as he shows his face or speaks about her show it will blow up. I think he also has that mindset that Hailie needs to do it on her own. Having daddy appear on her show doesn’t help separate her from him for her to make her own brand. Now if she starts getting guest like maybe Alaina or Stevie and then let’s say next festival she goes to if she can get some artist to do interviews or just talk with them that would help her establish herself too. I mean her and her friend just sitting there talking about themselves will only last them for so long too.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 18, 2022 23:40:05 GMT -5
Yeah, she definitely strategically used that name to pander to his fan base. She is even calling them Hailiens on Instagram. Fans always said her father was an alien and Marshall said the same thing about himself, so she is using that as well. I guess being a beauty influencer wasn't panning out, so she decided to do the podcast. I don't think she is with her agency anymore either. She has got to find her own niche separate from her dad or fully in conjunction with him. Even though I am not a fan at all, the Kardashians have mastered that get famous because your family is famous and they each created their own thing and has their own fans. Hailie needs to grow a fan base of people who are there because of her and not her dad or else she is not going to make money off her own brand. It also explains why she doesn't get higher tier press. Snoop's son Cordell brought something to his dad's business, his young perspective and it is working well for Snoop. I'm not sure Hailie is as business savvy as Cordell though. Cordell has that entrepreneur hustle. As an Instagram influencer Hailie barely posted. You can't be a serious influencer if you not grinding on the daily. She grinding like an heiress. But hopefully she picking up her game with the podcast! You said what I’ve been saying when it comes to the change in her career path lol Yes and she does need to make her own name cause his fans will only follow her journey for so long if she doesn’t give them what they hope for which is her dad one day being on her show. I’m sure the podcast views will only stager since her first one cause people see she won’t be having him on her show anytime soon. I also don’t think he will likely ever be on her show because how fair is that to his other kids that are trying to be influencers or build a career on social media? We know as soon as he shows his face or speaks about her show it will blow up. I think he also has that mindset that Hailie needs to do it on her own. Having daddy appear on her show doesn’t help separate her from him for her to make her own brand. Now if she starts getting guest like maybe Alaina or Stevie and then let’s say next festival she goes to if she can get some artist to do interviews or just talk with them that would help her establish herself too. I mean her and her friend just sitting there talking about themselves will only last them for so long too. You are so true shimy ! I thought for sure they would interview people from Lollapalooza. Seeing she was kicked out of Metallica, she wasn't even there as media. Like, how was she not able to pull that off. If you have a big following it is very easy to do! The fake account pretending to be her responded to the Game diss using one of her old TikToks. It was so clever, news outlets picked it up. But she wasn't even clever enough to think of that, yet she decided to go and repost that TikTok on her social media when she saw that it worked for the imposter. That is why I do not think she is very business savvy. But she can definitely grow into it and learn as she grows her brand. I wonder if she has a regular job like Alaina.
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