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Post by matty on Nov 24, 2021 15:25:16 GMT -5
You have myself and Matty mixed up. Not a big deal but I provided "the receipts', she was the one that commented on the evidence that was not allowed in, which was quite substantial. Here is another receipt. The jury was not allowed to hear of Rittenhouse's affiliation with the white supremacist group The Proud Boys, nor was the fact that he had assaulted a woman months before (among other things, but those are the main two). abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/rittenhouse-hearing-decide-evidence-allowed-trial-80071271. Before you say that was not pertinent to the trial, keep in mind character depictions are part of most trials when the defendant is just a normal person. The second thing which I am honestly angry about is that you far right people take the fact that someone committed a crime and use it as justification for them to be murdered. Rosenbaum is not a hero. He is a murder victim. Rittenhouse has become a right-wing hero and that's why he secured a 2 million dollar defense. If other people had that kind of money for lawyers the jails would be half as full. Also, Rosenbaum did not get the death penalty. He was not sentenced to be shot on the street with an AK-47 by a 17-year-old who cashed a check his ass couldn't handle. If Rittenhouse's victim really did rape little kids, he is a piece of shit. However, he was convicted in a court of law which you say you believe in, and given consequences appropriate to the law and (I could be wrong here if he pled guilty or no contest) the same jury system you praise--and your favorite person Joe Biden praised--in the case of Rittenhouse. It is similar with all of the unarmed black men that have been killed. "He counterfeited money and beat his pregnant wife." "He stole cigarettes." "He had a toy gun." "He looked like he fit the description of a criminal." And right-wingers with all of their faith in the jury system just...wipe them away. They're just thugs. If they didn't kill anyone yet they would have, so who cares if they're murdered, they sound like a shitty person anyway! Maybe they are a shitty person, but they deserve due process as much as KR did. Ok, I suppose you got me on the state line thing. Who cares? The point is still that he murdered people and he didn't need to. That's my whole overreaching arc here. You can't just go around killing people.
And tbh it's not hard to predict Em's take on all of this. Eminem is a liberal. He has lived through poverty, homelessness, welfare, addiction, trying to raise a kid on WIC and minimum wage, and he knows how the rich don't like to give a single dime to the poor (which is why he quietly gives massive donations to charity). He hates trump, he allowed Lose Yourself to be used in a Biden commercial, he is pro-mask and pro-vaccine. He made an entire song denouncing gun violence from the POV of the shooter. If you look at Paul's twitter, as much as he pisses me off sometimes, it is filled with tweets that are anti-gun, pro-BLM, anti-Trump, etc. You notice how they went radio silent after Tom MacDonald bought the rights to Stan II--I know you like TM and I'm not going to shit on you for that but I think most people can gather from the (lack of) response that he was NOT the target they were going for. Em literally has not said a single word, which says a lot of words. www.nytimes.com/2020/08/27/us/kyle-rittenhouse-kenosha-shooting-video.htmlHereās a good summary of what happened that night in 2020, from a leftist source, that I agree withā¦.. mostly I guess, I got to the the subheading āSecond Shootingāā¦ got excited with the factual journalism, saved the link. Closed the window dumblyā¦ and then tried to read the rest of the article after I saved the link for yāall, and now they want 50 cents!! What the eff, NYT?! Let me read one entire article before you try to charge me for something. Fuck themā¦ Iām not paying any legacy media shit, until I can get through an entire report and feel like it was fact based. Anywayā¦ thatās a me problemā¦ any arguments beyond the subheading I mentioned, are real unfair! (Unless you copy+paste). Iām only sharing it to show you that I REALLY DO try to read sources from all the sidesā¦ not just spouting off Fox News or whateverā¦ Give me 24-48ā¦ and Iāll respond to all your links, mattyā¦ you typed ātraveled across twoā¦ hold on, you said: āCounterfeit $20: thug Going to get skittles: thug (I am not responding to these two statements as Iāve not yet had time to read your links) Be real. Kyle Rittenhouse drove from two states away to carry an assault rifle and hang out with other Proud Boys (white supremacists) to "protect" an area from black people rioters. Then, at the first sign of a threatened, he opened fire and murdered people "defended himself". ā What Iād like to ask right now is: How far did all these folks travel? (Hint: not from two states away, but I may have riled up emotions for daring to try and start a conversation that goes against what our favorite rapper espouses. I apologize for that.) Rittenhouse traveled from a shorter distance than the three folks he shot thoughā¦ weird right? But still Rittenhouse traveled across A state line. Our young shooter also comes from a broken home, like Mr. Mathers. Except, Kyleās dad was still a part of his life, much of his paternal family in factā¦ and they live in Kenosha. Kyleās mom lived about thirty minutes, across the state lineā¦ in Illinois. www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/these-are-the-victims-killed-in-the-kyle-rittenhouse-shooting-in-kenosha/2689489/Iād like you to pay particular attention to the following excerpt from the previous link: Two killed, one wounded The two people killed were identified as 36-year-old Joseph Rosenbaum, of Kenosha, and 26-year-old Anthony Huber, of Silver Lake, Wisconsin. Gaige Grosskreutz, 27, a protester from West Allis, was wounded. Rosenbaum, 36, was released the day of the shootings from a Milwaukee hospital where he had been treated for a suicide attempt. Itās not clear why he was on Kenoshaās streets the night of the protests, though he had a fiancĆ© who lived in the city. His background includes a conviction for sexual conduct with a minor in Arizona in 2002. The judge denied a defense request to argue that Rosenbaum was trying to get Rittenhouseās rifle because, as a convicted sex offender, Rosenbaum couldnāt legally get one on his own. Soooo, Rosenbaum was a Child rapist. He anally raped nine to 11 y/o boysā¦ multiple timesā¦ and threatened Rittenhouseās lifeā¦ but heās still some sort of hero?! Eww, and ugh. (And this fact also brings to mind things Em MAY have gone though at the hands of his stepfatherā¦ but that deserves its own thread) I donāt even know anymore. Weāre living in a world where youāre not supposed to defend yourself, and child rapists and armed robbers are martyrsā¦ and itās cool to destroy peopleās personal property in the name of ājusticeāā¦ for fucks sakeā¦ for fuckās sake, for fuck sakeā¦ I donāt know the proper way to type out ffsā¦ Anyway! Matty! Thanks for the receipts! I DID guess wrong! Just like I guessed wrong in the outcome of āthe trialāā¦ so you all know where not to go for prophecies. Sparrow, damn bird! Iām really curious about the evidence you mentioned that wasnāt āallowed inā. Preachhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Post by tcat on Nov 25, 2021 16:53:22 GMT -5
Rittenhouse was only guilty of defending himselfā¦ which was lawful. His possession of the AR was lawful according to Wisconsin law, which is why the judge dropped those illegal possession charges at the beginning. If he had killed those folk with a pistol/handgunā¦ thatās a different story. His shooting of the folks attacking him was lawful, as proved by a jury of his peers. Do you think he shot them ābecause they were BLM protestersā? He didnāt, he shot them because they were trying to kill him, as he was there trying to put out the fires of rioters. Thereās a difference between peaceful protest and riot. Setting shit on fire and looting, thatās riot; not āmostly peaceful protestā. Did you guys actually watch the trial? The judge stomped on the prosecution when they were out of line, but he was also very careful to not give in too easily to the defense. Basically, Iām surprised you hate the judge so much when it seemed to me the Prosecution dropped the ball. Should we exchange receipts? That would be fun. Iām guessing no though, sparrow and matty had their minds decided for them, before the case could even be decided in a court of law. Fuck! I canāt wait to hear Eminemās reference to this!! Itās going to be awesome, either way he comes out. I said last week before the verdict came in that there were going to be a lot of people shocked when he is found not guilty if they got their information from the MSM. And I was right. I actually watched his testimony, along with the guy whose arm he shot off- the whole thing. I also watched the video of the shootings. It was clearly self defense. They were chasing after Rittenhouse. The video shows that. Also the guy whose arm he blew off admitted to pointing a pistol at Rittenhouse right before getting shot. That's clearly self defense. And for those saying if he was black, he would have been found guilty...the truth is if he was black, he likely would have pleaded guilty and not gone to trial. A black kid would likely not have competent lawyers like Rittenhouse did. That is a problem with our justice system. Poor minorities are less likely to have competent attorneys and therefore plead guilty to a crime when they shouldn't. When they do have competent attorneys and they kill someone while acting in self defense, they are acquitted too. There was a black guy aquitted the same day as Rittenhouse or maybe a day after bit.ly/3r9ISMD <- you can read about it there.
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Post by wunch on Nov 26, 2021 19:29:10 GMT -5
Ok, first, Iām sorry I always attribute posts to the wrong folks. Thank you Sparrow, for not coming at me for that dumbass mistake. I only access this message board through mobileā¦ and yada yada, looking at contentā¦ not at specific usernames. Truly, my bad, Iām an internet idiot, but Iām betting Eminem is as well, so I donāt feel TOO bad. (I do feel bad, and will forever, just trying to play it off so yāall still attempt to take me seriously)
Second, itās taken me longer than the 24-48 I said in my last post, fucking lifeā¦ but Sparrow also posted an additional ABC receipt that was reallyā¦ I donāt know, better? Informative in a different way, for sure!
The previous receipts enlightened me, as to the true viewpoint āyou progressivesā are viewing the situation through. Crap, that sentence feels mean! But Iām going to leave it.
You called me a āright-wingerā! Ewww, everyone knows those folks are nothing but violent white suprematists, who want all folks toā¦ I dunno, be white and have gunsā¦ I guess?
I live in a āsocialistā democracy now, and Iāll be real sad if they deport me and I have to go back toā¦ California, I guessā¦ I dunno, sidetrackedā¦ back to the multitude of pointsā¦. Fuck, how is political debate supposed to work? Seriously, no one on this board was ever part of a debate team?
So! Letās pretend none of us know the political background of any of the participants in the Rittenhouse, and minus any of their past mistakes against humanity. Rittenhouse was defending himselfā¦ plain and simple. Shitty it had to come down to him shooting folks to preserve his own life, definitely! But them folks were trying to dead him!!! As TCat pointed out.
And, after the fact, Kyle was photographed making the OK signā¦ For real question for anyone reading this far, what does this hand signal mean to you? š it always meant ok, and also a silly game kids played was āif you make that symbol, and somebody looks at it, they āloseā. Literal nonsense game that kids played! So, obviously, you make that symbol in a photo, everyone else loses, like rabbit earsā¦ and then suddenly, āit means white power!ā Wtf?! Can someone provide a reference to where the āwhite powerā came into it?
And hereās where I get banned againā¦ systemic racism in the US is a fable that the legacy media is using to distract and divide us. That is whatās going on, I believe, with my whole heart.
Iām not claiming āthere are no racistsā. But systemic racism? Youāve known someone who couldnāt get an education because they were black? You saw someone kicked off the bus for sitting in the wrong section? Systemic racism is illegal in the USAā¦ it has been for the last 50 years or soā¦
Yes, Iām white, and Iām happier living in Germany than Iāve ever been. But me and my kids donāt speak Deutsch. Guess who we spend the majority of our time with? Itās not fucking white German people! Itās people who have actually had to face real hardship because of their skin color and religious beliefs, folks just trying to integrate into a society that accepts them as long theyāre willing to learn the language and cultureā¦ you know whatā¦ I donāt even know what Iām trying to to get yāall to see anymore.
Trump disavowed racists multiple timesā¦ yeah, he said āgrab āem by the pussyā!talking about whores trying to manipulate men with money. Was he embarrassing as our leader, fuck yeah, but my personal life improved when he was In office due to the tax cuts he promised and provided.
What promise has Biden followed through on? Nelnet emails me twice a week to remind me that I need to resume my student loan payments come Januaryā¦
And trust me, the world āteasedā us when Trump was in chargeā¦ now they pity and ridicule us because of Bidenā¦
Anywayā¦ everything going on in this pandemic nightmare is nothing but smoke screens and bs. Iām still looking forward to Eminemās next social commentary work. Will I be disappointed and not agree with him, most likely. But, will I still listen and try to understand, yeahā¦ always yeah. Fuck
Thanks for discussing it with me, and fuck you, for I dunno.. I just feel like saying itā¦ brainwashed by Eminem most likely
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But also, hugs and hearts and cutesie shit, š¤ā¤ļøš„° to everyone willing to say their pieceā¦
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Post by sparrow on Nov 29, 2021 1:54:22 GMT -5
Ok, first, Iām sorry I always attribute posts to the wrong folks. Thank you Sparrow, for not coming at me for that dumbass mistake. I only access this message board through mobileā¦ and yada yada, looking at contentā¦ not at specific usernames. Truly, my bad, Iām an internet idiot, but Iām betting Eminem is as well, so I donāt feel TOO bad. (I do feel bad, and will forever, just trying to play it off so yāall still attempt to take me seriously) Second, itās taken me longer than the 24-48 I said in my last post, fucking lifeā¦ but Sparrow also posted an additional ABC receipt that was reallyā¦ I donāt know, better? Informative in a different way, for sure! The previous receipts enlightened me, as to the true viewpoint āyou progressivesā are viewing the situation through. Crap, that sentence feels mean! But Iām going to leave it. You called me a āright-wingerā! Ewww, everyone knows those folks are nothing but violent white suprematists, who want all folks toā¦ I dunno, be white and have gunsā¦ I guess? I live in a āsocialistā democracy now, and Iāll be real sad if they deport me and I have to go back toā¦ California, I guessā¦ I dunno, sidetrackedā¦ back to the multitude of pointsā¦. Fuck, how is political debate supposed to work? Seriously, no one on this board was ever part of a debate team? So! Letās pretend none of us know the political background of any of the participants in the Rittenhouse, and minus any of their past mistakes against humanity. Rittenhouse was defending himselfā¦ plain and simple. Shitty it had to come down to him shooting folks to preserve his own life, definitely! But them folks were trying to dead him!!! As TCat pointed out. And, after the fact, Kyle was photographed making the OK signā¦ For real question for anyone reading this far, what does this hand signal mean to you? š it always meant ok, and also a silly game kids played was āif you make that symbol, and somebody looks at it, they āloseā. Literal nonsense game that kids played! So, obviously, you make that symbol in a photo, everyone else loses, like rabbit earsā¦ and then suddenly, āit means white power!ā Wtf?! Can someone provide a reference to where the āwhite powerā came into it? And hereās where I get banned againā¦ systemic racism in the US is a fable that the legacy media is using to distract and divide us. That is whatās going on, I believe, with my whole heart. Iām not claiming āthere are no racistsā. But systemic racism? Youāve known someone who couldnāt get an education because they were black? You saw someone kicked off the bus for sitting in the wrong section? Systemic racism is illegal in the USAā¦ it has been for the last 50 years or soā¦ Yes, Iām white, and Iām happier living in Germany than Iāve ever been. But me and my kids donāt speak Deutsch. Guess who we spend the majority of our time with? Itās not fucking white German people! Itās people who have actually had to face real hardship because of their skin color and religious beliefs, folks just trying to integrate into a society that accepts them as long theyāre willing to learn the language and cultureā¦ you know whatā¦ I donāt even know what Iām trying to to get yāall to see anymore. Trump disavowed racists multiple timesā¦ yeah, he said āgrab āem by the pussyā!talking about whores trying to manipulate men with money. Was he embarrassing as our leader, fuck yeah, but my personal life improved when he was In office due to the tax cuts he promised and provided. What promise has Biden followed through on? Nelnet emails me twice a week to remind me that I need to resume my student loan payments come Januaryā¦ And trust me, the world āteasedā us when Trump was in chargeā¦ now they pity and ridicule us because of Bidenā¦ Anywayā¦ everything going on in this pandemic nightmare is nothing but smoke screens and bs. Iām still looking forward to Eminemās next social commentary work. Will I be disappointed and not agree with him, most likely. But, will I still listen and try to understand, yeahā¦ always yeah. Fuck Thanks for discussing it with me, and fuck you, for I dunno.. I just feel like saying itā¦ brainwashed by Eminem most likely š But also, hugs and hearts and cutesie shit, š¤ā¤ļøš„° to everyone willing to say their pieceā¦ I'm not going to sat fuck you back, I don't feel that way. I also don't think we will ever agree on Rittenhouse. I call you a right-winger because that seems to be your take on every issue from covid to Trump to racism to guns. It's fine. I just don't think living in Germany means you're exempt from looking at things from your preferred narrative. Although I am jealous of your healthcare and clean air and water. I do absolutely think black people are denied access to education. I live just outside of the Detroit ghettos so I see it all the time. The soul-killing poverty. The crack. The gangs, the broken homes, no real resources, high addiction rates, high instances of violence, high rates of teen pregnancy, and sky high incarceration rates that white people living in similar states of poverty statistically just do not face (which in itself is systemic racism). It is not impossible to overcome, but compared to a wealthy white neighborhood where everyone gets a car at 16, SAT tutoring, and their parents pay for tuition? It's really fucking hard. Tupac talks about this extensively. And the people who say well whatever they should just pull themselves up by the bootstraps...I'd like to see them try to do that if they too didn't have any boots. The other excuses are "those people" just live like that and, ridiculously, access to welfare that is not enough to keep the lights on, is keeping them dependent on the govt so they don't work. Both of which are racist. So no, there are no whites only signs, but there are people who don't have a chance because of their skin. As for Trump. I get why some people like him. I won't waste time trying to change your opinion. But I find the dismissing of the grab em by the pussy statement as being about "whores" pretty insensitive. This is the entire transcript here, what ppl called "locker room talk". The President of the United States said this. Of Obama said a half of a percent of what Trump said the right would have gone crazy: Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her, she was married." Unknown: "That's huge news there." Trump: "No, no, Nancy. No this was [inaudible] and I moved on her very heavily in fact I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said I'll show you where they have some nice furniture. I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married. Then all-of-a-sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look." Bush: "Your girl's hot as shit. In the purple." Multiple voices: "Whoah. Yes. Whoah." Bush: "Yes. The Donald has scored. Whoah my man." Trump: "Look at you. You are a pussy." Bush: "You gotta get the thumbs up." Trump: "Maybe it's a different one." Bush: "It better not be the publicist. No, it's, it's her." Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." Bush: "Whatever you want." Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything." Bush: "Yeah those legs. All I can see is the legs." Trump: "It looks good." Bush: "Come on shorty." Trump: "Oh nice legs huh." Bush: "Get out of the way honey. Oh that's good legs. Go ahead." That's the #1 representative of the free world bragging about moving in on a married woman "like a bitch" and failing to get her to cheat. Then he says he's a celebrity so he can fuck hot chicks because of his status. It's all so awful. But people just brush it off.
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Post by wunch on Dec 3, 2021 10:42:06 GMT -5
You wonāt say āfuck youā back?! šFuck you for that, too, thenā¦ I dunno š (Side note for anyone interested in the culture of German folks. SheiĆe (pronounced shy-zah) is the German expletive for āshit!ā. Itās The Main expletive hereā¦ like The F-word in the USā¦ but itās not confined to āa group of a certain ageā. The funniest thing I see at least once a week, is tiny little kids falling off something and shouting āsheiĆe!ā š, (fuck, itās funny as fuck!) anyhowā¦ First point of Sparrows, that I want to rebuttal withā¦ āThat's the #1 representative of the free world bragging about moving in on a married woman "like a bitch" and failing to get her to cheat. Then he says he's a celebrity so he can fuck hot chicks because of his status. It's all so awful. But people just brush it off.ā Sparrow, that whole transcript you postedā¦ from the womanās behavior; going furniture shopping with Donald Trump (I hear as: he bought whatever she wanted, because he was attracted to her and wanted to (pardon the ālocker room talkā) hit thatā¦.) perhaps thatās where the disconnect between us is coming fromā¦ The transcript you provided seems to be sourced from a discussion Trump thought he was having āamong dudesā ā¦ yeah, ālocker room talkā/ āshop floor talkā, talks that Iām willing to bet the majority of AMABās have every dayā¦ yeah, gross, but who was actually hurt when Trump expressed himself that way? No one. The second point I want to make: I now understand, weāre viewing Trump as polar opposites. Trump joined the āpoliticalā game, because he knew he was rich enough to be heardā¦ but he is not, and never was āa politicianā. The womenās pussies heād be willing to grab, those women are āwhoresāā¦ like, thatās what Eminem taught meā¦. Iā¦ I just donāt get how thatās harshā¦ ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Anyway, if you want to discuss that more/ Iām not seeing a point youāre trying to makeā¦ please, call me out! Anyone besides Sparrow too, I meanā¦ Iām just here to talk/converse/interactā¦ Iām not here to āSHUT YOU DOWN!āā¦ I just love āEm, and the fans on this board, and I want us to be able to exchange ideasā¦ and like, learn from each otherā¦. Iāll post my second point āfor rebuttalā regarding āthe scarcities in the ghettoā in my next postā¦ I need a fucking break
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Post by sparrow on Dec 3, 2021 11:15:46 GMT -5
I didn't mean to upset you wunch. We can just disagree a lot. I am honestly not mad or trying to shut ppl down. You wonāt say āfuck youā back?! šFuck you for that, too, thenā¦ I dunno š (Side note for anyone interested in the culture of German folks. SheiĆe (pronounced shy-zah) is the German expletive for āshit!ā. Itās The Main expletive hereā¦ like The F-word in the USā¦ but itās not confined to āa group of a certain ageā. The funniest thing I see at least once a week, is tiny little kids falling off something and shouting āsheiĆe!ā š, (fuck, itās funny as fuck!) anyhowā¦ First point of Sparrows, that I want to rebuttal withā¦ āThat's the #1 representative of the free world bragging about moving in on a married woman "like a bitch" and failing to get her to cheat. Then he says he's a celebrity so he can fuck hot chicks because of his status. It's all so awful. But people just brush it off.ā Sparrow, that whole transcript you postedā¦ from the womanās behavior; going furniture shopping with Donald Trump (I hear as: he bought whatever she wanted, because he was attracted to her and wanted to (pardon the ālocker room talkā) hit thatā¦.) perhaps thatās where the disconnect between us is coming fromā¦ The transcript you provided seems to be sourced from a discussion Trump thought he was having āamong dudesā ā¦ yeah, ālocker room talkā/ āshop floor talkā, talks that Iām willing to bet the majority of AMABās have every dayā¦ yeah, gross, but who was actually hurt when Trump expressed himself that way? No one. The second point I want to make: I now understand, weāre viewing Trump as polar opposites. Trump joined the āpoliticalā game, because he knew he was rich enough to be heardā¦ but he is not, and never was āa politicianā. The womenās pussies heād be willing to grab, those women are āwhoresāā¦ like, thatās what Eminem taught meā¦. Iā¦ I just donāt get how thatās harshā¦ ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Anyway, if you want to discuss that more/ Iām not seeing a point youāre trying to makeā¦ please, call me out! Anyone besides Sparrow too, I meanā¦ Iām just here to talk/converse/interactā¦ Iām not here to āSHUT YOU DOWN!āā¦ I just love āEm, and the fans on this board, and I want us to be able to exchange ideasā¦ and like, learn from each otherā¦. Iāll post my second point āfor rebuttalā regarding āthe scarcities in the ghettoā in my next postā¦ I need a fucking break
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Post by matty on Dec 4, 2021 18:40:18 GMT -5
They need to go to prison. So glad parents are now being held accountable for these horrific shootings. Giving a 15 year old a damn gun??
Miserable trump fucks. I hope they get the maximum
Those poor four kids
Hopefully they will be made as an example
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Post by wunch on Dec 8, 2021 16:38:26 GMT -5
They need to go to prison. So glad parents are now being held accountable for these horrific shootings. Giving a 15 year old a damn gun?? Miserable trump fucks. I hope they get the maximum Those poor four kids Hopefully they will be made as an example What is this about? The video isnāt playing for meā¦ āmiserable Trump fucksā leads me to believe itās either folks happy with their lower taxes under Trumpās reign, or some extremist dumb assesā white-power gun violenceā¦ but, I repeat myself, according to the majority of Eminem fans in the syndicateā¦ which is still mind-blowing
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Post by matty on Feb 26, 2022 12:50:30 GMT -5
This Russian/Ukraine war is hurting my heart
Iām 75-80% Ukraine - my grandparents moved to Canada during the war so this is hurting man. And Iām terrified attacks will start happening in other countries as well
And of course trump is cheering Putin along š psychotic freak
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Post by sparrow on May 3, 2022 16:12:30 GMT -5
Well, they finally did it. Roe v Wade is being overturned. I don't blame conservatives, I blame all the non voters and 3rd party voters who said both candidates were the same in 2016 amd allowed for Trump to come and stack the court with religious fanatics.
I love America but damn I wish I was European sometimes and had real healthcare and still owned my own body.
If I offended someone I'm not pressed, so many women are going to die or be saddled raising a child they don't want or love.
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Post by tcat on May 3, 2022 16:52:28 GMT -5
Well, they finally did it. Roe v Wade is being overturned. I don't blame conservatives, I blame all the non voters and 3rd party voters who said both candidates were the same in 2016 amd allowed for Trump to come and stack the court with religious fanatics. I love America but damn I wish I was European sometimes and had real healthcare and still owned my own body. If I offended someone I'm not pressed, so many women are going to die or be saddled raising a child they don't want or love. I actually read the draft that Alito supposedly wrote and it is not banning abortion, it is saying that abortion is badly decided law, that the Constitution does not give women the right to abortion. The matter needs to be taken up by Congress and pass a law allowing abortion or the states need to decide for themselves about abortion laws. The Supreme court isn't banning it or saying it is illegal, just that the Roe v Wade was wrongly decided law....that the original justices created a law out of nothing, and that is NOT the role of the judiciary - it is the role of the legislature. I predict that this will go back to Congress, who will decide on an abortion law making it legal in all 50 states. Congress will have to compromise with one another to hammer out a law that is reasonably acceptable to everyone. This means both sides will get some of what they want and both sides will lose some of what they want. This is such a hot topic issue because both sides have a "all or nothing" mentality. They want only what is good for their side and nothing for the other side. If this court decision is really true, Congress will HAVE to work with each other to hammer out an agreement. Most Americans support abortion, but with limits. So I expect they will come up with something. Reading through social media, I am really shocked at the number of people that don't understand basic civics and how our government works. The courts DO NOT make laws. The President DOES NOT make laws. The courts decide if a law is supported by the constitution. The legislature is the one that makes the laws. I'm just happy that women are being acknowledged as women instead of "birthing people" or 'people who bleed", or whatever fucking nonsense is being forced on us.
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Post by sparrow on May 3, 2022 17:17:39 GMT -5
Well, they finally did it. Roe v Wade is being overturned. I don't blame conservatives, I blame all the non voters and 3rd party voters who said both candidates were the same in 2016 amd allowed for Trump to come and stack the court with religious fanatics. I love America but damn I wish I was European sometimes and had real healthcare and still owned my own body. If I offended someone I'm not pressed, so many women are going to die or be saddled raising a child they don't want or love. I actually read the draft that Alito supposedly wrote and it is not banning abortion, it is saying that abortion is badly decided law, that the Constitution does not give women the right to abortion.Ā The matter needs to be taken up by Congress and pass a law allowing abortion or the states need to decide for themselves about abortion laws.Ā The Supreme court isn't banning it or saying it is illegal, just that the Roe v Wade was wrongly decided law....that the original justices created a law out of nothing, and that is NOT the role of the judiciary - it is the role of the legislature.Ā Ā I predict that this will go back to Congress, who will decide on an abortion law making it legal in all 50 states.Ā Congress will have to compromise with one another to hammer out a law that is reasonably acceptable to everyone.Ā This means both sides will get some of what they want and both sides will lose some of what they want.Ā Ā This is such a hot topic issue because both sides have a "all or nothing" mentality.Ā They want only what is good for their side and nothing for the other side.Ā If this court decision is really true, Congress will HAVE to work with each other to hammer out an agreement.Ā Most Americans support abortion, but with limits.Ā So I expect they will come up with something.Ā Ā Reading through social media, I am really shocked at the number of people that don't understand basic civics and how our government works.Ā The courts DO NOT make laws. The President DOES NOT make laws. The courts decide if a law is supported by the constitution.Ā The legislature is the one that makes the laws.Ā I'm just happy that women are being acknowledged as women instead of "birthing people" or 'people who bleed", or whatever fucking nonsense is being forced on us.Ā Ā I hope you're right, tcat. From what I've read it will send it back to the states and roughly 30 out of 50 states (i.e. red America) will ban it, with many already having "trigger laws" on the books to immediately enforce the new law of the land. This is not about trans inclusive language right now, it's about women no longer owning their bodies.
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Post by sparrow on May 25, 2022 19:28:46 GMT -5
As an American I would like to say fuck any citizen who puts easy gun access over the life of 4th graders. Fuck the 2nd ammendment. Fuck the NRA. Fuck all the Republicans with the audacity to defend the delusions of the gun cult that has an iron grip on this country. And fuck the democrats who make empty promises because they are too dickless to appear "radical" for the smallest impediment to getting a gun, because they are afraid of not being reelected.
I will not be reading or responding to other views. I have seen too many of these God damn mass shootings to give a fuck about what a document from the 1700s said about well-regulated militias owning single bullet muskets, or violence in Chicago, or "they could use knives", or criminals will just do it anyway so let's not even try, or whatever bullshit excuse the right uses to downplay 19 10-year-olds and 2 teachers being murdered.
I love my country, but I am ashamed of it today. Everywhere else gets it, not us.
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Post by annie18 on May 25, 2022 20:13:15 GMT -5
Terrible news, those little kids and teachers. Their families destroyed, this should be a turning point. I'm not American so I don't get much the political stuff of your country but learning this type of news is so devastating. I work as a teacher with kids of that age, it's hard to grasp for me that sb can do this kind of shit so easily.
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Post by GG102 on May 26, 2022 7:12:16 GMT -5
My heart aches for the deceased and their families. American needs to get a handle on gun control! So devastating...
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