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Post by matty on Jun 23, 2021 20:39:03 GMT -5
Okay dude - I am SO angry for Britney. SO angry.
I remember telling ppl back in the day, including ppl on this board (and the previous one) that she wasn't just a party girl who didn't work her ass off and was abused. Ppl just thought she was this selfish bimbo and she literally was going through so much fucking abuse.
I am bad at a lot of things. But one thing I am pretty good at is reading ppl and situations.
I remember even when Em signed Slaughterhouse that it was going to be bad for Em especially Joe and everyone thought I was being stupid about that too. I just hope Em isn't in a situation even slightly like Britney is. The hush hush secret line reminds me of Em because everything is so secretive with him dude. I just hope its because that the way he wants it.
Anyway here is Britneys court recording from her conservatorship. Its a mind fuck
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Post by Admin on Jun 23, 2021 23:42:47 GMT -5
Following this today was incredible. I'm happy that Britney got her opportunity to speak to the judge and I hope that she is able to get out of her conservatorship soon.
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Post by sparrow on Jun 24, 2021 9:03:26 GMT -5
Okay dude - I am SO angry for Britney. SO angry. I remember telling ppl back in the day, including ppl on this board (and the previous one) that she wasn't just a party girl who didn't work her ass off and was abused. Ppl just thought she was this selfish bimbo and she literally was going through so much fucking abuse. I am bad at a lot of things. But one thing I am pretty good at is reading ppl and situations. I remember even when Em signed Slaughterhouse that it was going to be bad for Em especially Joe and everyone thought I was being stupid about that too. I just hope Em isn't in a situation even slightly like Britney is. The hush hush secret line reminds me of Em because everything is so secretive with him dude. I just hope its because that the way he wants it. Anyway here is Britneys court recording from her conservatorship. Its a mind fuck "I don't know you and, no, I don't owe you a motherfuck-in' thing" I am so glad you posted this. Jamie Spears is a monster and Lynne is a monster enabler. Britney is the epitome of the saying "a bird in a gilded cage". It is so obvious they want a compliant little cash cow and marriage/babies would go against her "sexy" image and put her in a position where she is unable to tour and will change her body from the thin/athletic ideal. There were a few things she said in there that concerned me, not because I think she is unfit or stupid but because she has been isolated so much she's been unable to have the knowledge that we do--mainly I'm talking about the covid stuff and just how shut down the world was. I understand that she just wanted to feel human and pretty--to have some semblance of self-care--but I worry this will be interpreted as poor Britney had to sacrifice massages and acupuncture while people around her died off in droves. Aside from that though the thing that struck me again and again was that Jamie Spears was bankrolling Britney's abuse using her money. I don't blame her one bit for being wary of an evaluation when clearly Jamie has been telling these evaluators what they have to conclude to get their hands on her fortune. The other thing that struck me is this is the damage that occurs when you are stuck in a bubble, which of course makes me think of Em. I also am generally pretty spot on with my observations and I have felt for a long time that he is in a de facto conservatorship post-relapse and hospitalization. Em is also a cash cow and once they realized his famous antics were going to cost them money they put all their energy into his sobriety. This of course was a good and healthy thing for Marshall but it was also selfish of his management and since then they have shown him no faith in his own recovery. They keep him in that same cage as Britney and tell themselves it's for his own good. The things he has said in his own music, and also little tidbits we have found out over the years that he didn't know about (like L.L. Cool J reaching out to him in the hospital), and the most glaring example being Paul ending interviews when Em is mid-sentence and happy. Hell even the NFT thing. I feel that was engineered around him so that he would comment on Tom MacDonald and think it was his idea. Imo they do this a lot, play him in such a way that he thinks he is making his own decision. He is too smart for that thank God but at the same time he does believe he is safer in the bubble than outside, and that's really tragic. I know a lot of ppl disagree but I think Paul is another Jamie. Another snake. I want both of them to be free. #freebritney #freemarshall |
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Post by matty on Jun 24, 2021 14:02:16 GMT -5
sparrow Yeah I get what you are saying about her not being able to do things like getting her hair done but I think the point she was making that people were not telling her the truth because clearly other people had access to these things. I understand the world was shut down but she only had her bubble for her reality and when people come in with their hair done and say you cant even though you pay for their bills? Yeah that would drive me crazy too to be honest. Its twisted mind games. And I think that’s the point she was making. And I also think everything else she said trumps it anyway. She didn’t even get privacy while she dressed during “treatment”? And they doped her up on lithium just because she did not want to do a stupid dance move? That’s ABUSE. Why is she under a conservatorship when she can still work and make money for everyone but herself apparently. Its disgusting. If she was that sick she should not be forced to tour; people underestimate how stressful touring is. Nothing about this situation makes sense besides being a case of 13 years of abuse. Anyway, about Em- I worry too. A long long time ago I either read or someone told me (so take this with a grain of salt- it was so long ago) that Paul said something to the affect that he liked when Em was high because he was easier to control. And I remember Paul said in an interview that it was hard to navigate Em’s new personality after getting sober…and to me it made me look at him like “okay….so you are pressed now that he is clear minded and has high standards?” Em is a perfectionist. Even Denaun said recently that Em even took his line cook job seriously back in the day. Maybe the drugs made him more goofy or easy going but when he stopped the drugs he went back to his high standard self (although his goofy side /playful side is still there) he just has more control now. An example of this was during Revival; Paul and Em were doing an interview and they asked about the mom’s spaghetti thing and Em made a snide comment about it having some issues and Paul was like “we are working at the kinks still…’ I bet there are a lot more of those instances going on behind the scenes. Also, they edited it out so I cant find it but remember the Youtube performance Em did of Rap God back in the day? Denaun messed up a line or something and Em gave him the biggest death glare loll. It was quick but it just showed Ems high standards. It was during the live performance but like I said the cut it out later on. I think the main problem with Em is that he is very smart/a perfectionist and holds ppl (that work FOR HIM) to the same standards but he also has a kind/empathetic heart. And he also has abandonment issues (clearly) and is not good at managing conflict; I personally think it makes him anxious (this is just from my own opinion/observations) and I also think he has major issues working/meeting new people so its easier for his team to keep his circle small. So when I say Em is gullible I don’t mean that he is dumb (quite the opposite) but I think he tries to look for the good in his ppl and has a very almost day dream look in life; his head is in the clouds and has high expectations for life because of that and I think he doesn’t get why others aren’t like him. Cuz here is the thing- there is a difference between just a day dreamer who just dreams and doesn’t do anything and a day dreamer who actually takes actions and does a lot of hard work to get shit done and Em is the latter. On top of that I think he knows what it feels like to feel alone, down and out and people are able to play on his emotions that way. That’s one of the reasons I hate Royce. I think he plays on Em’s empathetic nature a lot. There are so many instances of him doing it its ridiculous. Em gets so excited to help people and make their dreams come true. That’s why he was so eager to sign D12 and get Royce to work with Dre. Or how he helped so many ppl get sober…I can just picture him being like THEY JUST NEED MOTVATION AND SUPPORT!! THAT’S WHAT I NEEDED AND LOOK AT WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED!!! THEY JUST NEED THAT PUSH. But he forgets that others don’t have the same work ethic as him and then he feels guilty when things don’t work out the way he expected. He puts too much guilt on his shoulders. One of the main things Em taught me was hard work. Sometimes when I feel whiney I think about all the shit Em went through and was like STFU and work harder. Don’t be a martyr. And I do think Paul and Royce manipulate him. One example was when they first signed SH (which took a long time – take that for what its worth) and both Royce and Paul came up to Em and was like lets do BME! And Em kept saying no and really did not want to do it because he wanted to focus on SH (and I also think he was being polite bc he just doesn’t fully trust Royce) and they were like IT WILL HELP SH!!! BLAH BLAH BLAH and then Royce would just randomly give Em songs and they “coincidently just had enough for an EP!” There’s always a low-key agenda, and like you said and Em cant say no cuz he would look like an asshole. I feel like he lands in situations like that a lot where if he says no he isn’t supporting his friends or this asshole. Anyway – at the end of the day I think Em has high anxiety/ptsd (and other mental struggles that we cant confirm) and its naturally hard for him to meet new people and other things. Which makes it easier for Paul to control his bubble. Because as someone with anxiety myself if someone takes care of all the things that make me anxious I am going to take it. And Paul likes it because he has the ability to feed Em information about people and things going on. But its not healthy because as you said being in that type of bubble is only going to exasperate issues. Its just going to make Ems anxiety worst. If you live in the dark for 20 years and then all of sudden the lights are turned on you are going to have to have a psychological effect to that. Paul and his team should have been helping him through things to help him take more control but it APPEARS (and I want to emphasize the appear part because we could be missing a shit ton that would change this whole THEORY) that they did the exact opposite. So now if Em is left without a team/bubble I think it was be really hard for him to cope and it couldn’t be over night. But we don’t know the efforts that were really made. We don’t know anything really. Like why was Em going to be interviewed for that second Anthony bozza book? But last minute Paul said no and had everyone else talk for Em? Was that per Em’s request? We don’t know. Why did Anderson Cooper say Em was the most difficult person to interview? And then the clip where he said it just doesn’t exist anymore? We don’t know. How come when Skylar and Rihanna say similar things about Em seeming very secluded the articles either disappear or they quickly retract their statements? We don’t know. How come during MMLP2 all the promo suddenly stopped (after it was confirmed that we were supposed to get more videos) and we got those weird ass Australian intevriews that sounded pre-recorded. We don’t know. Paul could be a good guy. I don’t know. He could be doing the best he can…or maybe not realizing he is doing more harm than good. I DON’T KNOW. I don’t think he is as Jamie Spears that’s for sure. I think he does care for Em’s well being but idk something isn’t right. Idk sorry yet again for my rant. I just have a lot of feelings lmao.
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Post by tracey on Jun 24, 2021 15:36:24 GMT -5
Finally!! She got to speak up for herself. It hurt to hear the audio. It was worse than we all thought it was. I was shocked to hear she can’t remove her IUD— truly sickening. Her whole family should be put in jail for what they have done to her.
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Post by sparrow on Jun 28, 2021 11:45:03 GMT -5
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Post by matty on Jun 28, 2021 13:51:57 GMT -5
Yeah - the heat could be getting to me but didn't someone say that his gf's have to sign NDAs? Or did I make that up or did we just assume that? I guess I can understand relationships with new people where they don't know their intentions but idk it must be awkward saying "hey Paul wants u to sign a NDA- and then do you want to go on a date?" but I guess a lot of celebs have to do that. What really concerned me was when on tour Rihanna even said she didn't have access to Em. It's weird. I hope Em says something but ppl will probably attack him and bring up his music dissing her in the past. Even though imo it was clear it was just silly/irrelevant stuff. But it probably would do more harm than good. Plus Em might not really know what's going on with her. I also hope his team realizes how weird his fans think Em's current situation looks from them outside in right now. Idk if he is in a quasi Britney Spears situation or not but either way the perception is odd. Hopefully Paul will decide its okay if Em is seen getting dinner or hanging out with friends outside his dungeon (oops! I mean studio lol) so he doesn't even get more of Britney Spears rep |
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Post by sparrow on Jun 28, 2021 15:14:10 GMT -5
Idk, it's been so many years on this board. The NDA thing sounds familiar. I feel like maybe a pistons cheerleader said she was under an NDA but I could be mixing that up with athletes who require their hook-ups sign them. I am 100% sure I read 50 makes ppl sign something saying they consented. I'm sure these guys all talk to each other and give advice. There was a period of time, his drug years, when he was known in MI for taking strippers home. I had friends at that time who were hitting the Detroit strip clubs or were/knew bouncers, also knew people who lives in his then neighborhood before the gated communities...it was not uncommon to hear stories of how they saw Eminem and Kid Rock (and AJ McLean from BSB) at the high end strip clubs. Hell I went to a club called Pure back in the early 2000s and I heard he was in VIP with a bunch of basketball players. I guess it makes more sense than not if he has them sign them or else why hasn't ONE SINGLE PERSON spilled the beans? It would make money if they did, so I imagine they have some incentive not to. Yeah - the heat could be getting to me but didn't someone say that his gf's have to sign NDAs? Or did I make that up or did we just assume that? I guess I can understand relationships with new people where they don't know their intentions but idk it must be awkward saying "hey Paul wants u to sign a NDA- and then do you want to go on a date?" but I guess a lot of celebs have to do that. What really concerned me was when on tour Rihanna even said she didn't have access to Em. It's weird. I hope Em says something but ppl will probably attack him and bring up his music dissing her in the past. Even though imo it was clear it was just silly/irrelevant stuff. But it probably would do more harm than good. Plus Em might not really know what's going on with her. I also hope his team realizes how weird his fans think Em's current situation looks from them outside in right now. Idk if he is in a quasi Britney Spears situation or not but either way the perception is odd. Hopefully Paul will decide its okay if Em is seen getting dinner or hanging out with friends outside his dungeon (oops! I mean studio lol) so he doesn't even get more of Britney Spears rep |
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Post by matty on Jun 28, 2021 17:16:13 GMT -5
sparrow yeah even Em said he was meeting girls in strip clubs during his drug phase. Its so weird for some reason for me to picture Em in strip clubs throwing money and getting dances and taking them home...yeah I get he is a man but he so quirky I just can't picture him there even when he was using a lot. I know a few stories to where Em seemed to get pissed when ppl brought in strippers to the studio and was confused more than excited so its hard for me to picture it. Yet again he is a dude with needs lolll. Maybe its hard for me to picture cuz we have barely seen Em being affectionate to women in general. Either way I hope he gets out now a days still...maybe not strip clubs but at least goes out and mingle and such. Idk a lot has changed since he got sober that's for sure.
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Post by matty on Jun 28, 2021 22:08:43 GMT -5
Ugh her boyfriend is shady too smh- though I don't think he is near as bad as his dad and could have been just playing nice until he helped her get her freedom? Idk
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Post by Admin on Jun 28, 2021 22:31:00 GMT -5
I would assume that Marshall's girlfriends sign NDAs. It's kinda common practice in the entertainment industry, even though they wouldn't stand up in court. Article about celebrity NDAs here: Link |
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Post by sparrow on Jun 29, 2021 17:18:33 GMT -5
Ugh her boyfriend is shady too smh- though I don't think he is near as bad as his dad and could have been just playing nice until he helped her get her freedom? Idk I really, really hope he's not another snake in the pit. I have wondered why he hadn't been researching how to end the conservatorship seemingly at all, I know if it was my loved one being abused I would be meeting with lawyers and doing everything I could. Even if he was afraid of being iced out by Jamie he could have left her a secret note that said "you can petition to end it". #freebritney |
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Post by matty on Jun 29, 2021 17:36:25 GMT -5
Ugh her boyfriend is shady too smh- though I don't think he is near as bad as his dad and could have been just playing nice until he helped her get her freedom? Idk I really, really hope he's not another snake in the pit. I have wondered why he hadn't been researching how to end the conservatorship seemingly at all, I know if it was my loved one being abused I would be meeting with lawyers and doing everything I could. Even if he was afraid of being iced out by Jamie he could have left her a secret note that said "you can petition to end it". #freebritney He could have just been pretending to be on her dads side to help her on the low key. But I'm afraid that he just wants the conservative to end because he wants to marry her and pull a Kfed and he can't marry her under one. but idk much about him and I hope his intentions are good |
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Post by sparrow on Jul 1, 2021 17:55:08 GMT -5
Omg. The judge denied everything. Said the court found her too "susceptible to fraud" if given control of her own finances. Jamie remains conservator.
I can't believe this. How is this almost 40-year-old woman who is one of the most capable performers in the world being kept captive like this? Is the judge getting paid by Jamie?
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Post by matty on Jul 1, 2021 18:00:06 GMT -5
Omg. The judge denied everything. Said the court found her too "susceptible to fraud" if given control of her own finances. Jamie remains conservator. I can't believe this. How is this almost 40-year-old woman who is one of the most capable performers in the world being kept captive like this? Is the judge getting paid by Jamie? Apparently tmz reported it incorrectly. This was from a ruling where she changed Britney's conservatership from like dec 2020. She just now signed that it's 50/50 between Jamie and some legal person so it's actually a good thing. It isn't taken into accounts Britney's recent statement and her recent paper work she just submitted shit like this takes a long time |
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