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Post by annie18 on Feb 1, 2024 9:03:18 GMT -5
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Post by thisman85 on Feb 1, 2024 9:24:53 GMT -5
So the rumor is that Cassidy, the battle rapper, is the one who ghostwrote for Benzino's "Rap Elvis." Cassidy is the guy sitting on the couch that is back up agaisnt the wall in the blue cap and jacket. Interesting because he is breaking down Em's flow patterns for Math Hoffa. Sounds like he does what Em does, studies the greats and he is using it to make money by being a ghostwriter. But, that is the thing about being technical, it can be taught. That is what I loved about Tupac, he spoke to societal issues and it gave him a distinct voice. It can't be taught when you write from a passionate and personal place. That's what made Em so nice in the early days, it wasn't replicable. Honestly, i highly doubt Cassidy wrote that. Especially since he's a fan of Eminem, the opening line of Benzino's diss shows that he didn't do the research enough (Cassidy would know better). If Em comes back, he's going to come back hard. However, with social media, you can't just bury people anymore like you could back in the day.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Feb 1, 2024 10:21:09 GMT -5
So the rumor is that Cassidy, the battle rapper, is the one who ghostwrote for Benzino's "Rap Elvis." Cassidy is the guy sitting on the couch that is back up agaisnt the wall in the blue cap and jacket. Interesting because he is breaking down Em's flow patterns for Math Hoffa. Sounds like he does what Em does, studies the greats and he is using it to make money by being a ghostwriter. But, that is the thing about being technical, it can be taught. That is what I loved about Tupac, he spoke to societal issues and it gave him a distinct voice. It can't be taught when you write from a passionate and personal place. That's what made Em so nice in the early days, it wasn't replicable. Honestly, i highly doubt Cassidy wrote that. Especially since he's a fan of Eminem, the opening line of Benzino's diss shows that he didn't do the research enough (Cassidy would know better). If Em comes back, he's going to come back hard. However, with social media, you can't just bury people anymore like you could back in the day. I'm not sure because someone admires someone's work would not ghostwriter if they are getting paid. Plus MGK and The Game once admired Em and look where that went. But I am not that familiar with Cassidy, so I can't say one way or another. I still personally think it was Hitman Holla. But people who actually ghost write are saying it sounds like Cassidy's style. I agree that Em has the skill to bury him, he just needs to avoid superficial things like his looks. Benzino came with facts, so Em needs to do that as well and him potentially being gay is not the way to do it. He needs to dig where it hurts like him losing The Source and his downward spiral sense then, but who cares at this point. The bigger you are the harder you fall sometimes. Em is in a microscope, so much Benzino (or the ghostwriter) could say.
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Post by thisman85 on Feb 1, 2024 12:23:37 GMT -5
Honestly, i highly doubt Cassidy wrote that. Especially since he's a fan of Eminem, the opening line of Benzino's diss shows that he didn't do the research enough (Cassidy would know better). If Em comes back, he's going to come back hard. However, with social media, you can't just bury people anymore like you could back in the day. I'm not sure because someone admires someone's work would not ghostwriter if they are getting paid. Plus MGK and The Game once admired Em and look where that went. But I am not that familiar with Cassidy, so I can't say one way or another. I still personally think it was Hitman Holla. But people who actually ghost write are saying it sounds like Cassidy's style. I agree that Em has the skill to bury him, he just needs to avoid superficial things like his looks. Benzino came with facts, so Em needs to do that as well and him potentially being gay is not the way to do it. He needs to dig where it hurts like him losing The Source and his downward spiral sense then, but who cares at this point. The bigger you are the harder you fall sometimes. Em is in a microscope, so much Benzino (or the ghostwriter) could say. Yeah you're right. But, Benzino is so broke so I wonder who funded this diss 😂. Doesn't he owe like 5 mil in taxes? Lol I saw a hilarious comment on FB where someone said that Benzino did write this and it took 20+ years.. essentially it took a year to write a bar or 2 😂😂. I think Em needs to bring up the racist thing and point it back at Benzino. And the fact that Benzino mentions Em in every single issue... The proof thing and shady records will definitely be hard for Em. That's for sure. But I hope he comes back with a grown man's diss. This will be interesting. While Em is under the microscope.. there's no way he's going to fall from this. I hope he does a killshot type of diss.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Feb 1, 2024 16:14:00 GMT -5
I'm not sure because someone admires someone's work would not ghostwriter if they are getting paid. Plus MGK and The Game once admired Em and look where that went. But I am not that familiar with Cassidy, so I can't say one way or another. I still personally think it was Hitman Holla. But people who actually ghost write are saying it sounds like Cassidy's style. I agree that Em has the skill to bury him, he just needs to avoid superficial things like his looks. Benzino came with facts, so Em needs to do that as well and him potentially being gay is not the way to do it. He needs to dig where it hurts like him losing The Source and his downward spiral sense then, but who cares at this point. The bigger you are the harder you fall sometimes. Em is in a microscope, so much Benzino (or the ghostwriter) could say. Yeah you're right. But, Benzino is so broke so I wonder who funded this diss 😂. Doesn't he owe like 5 mil in taxes? Lol I saw a hilarious comment on FB where someone said that Benzino did write this and it took 20+ years.. essentially it took a year to write a bar or 2 😂😂. I think Em needs to bring up the racist thing and point it back at Benzino. And the fact that Benzino mentions Em in every single issue... The proof thing and shady records will definitely be hard for Em. That's for sure. But I hope he comes back with a grown man's diss. This will be interesting. While Em is under the microscope.. there's no way he's going to fall from this. I hope he does a killshot type of diss. Yeah, I agree Em won’t fall from this, but it could elevate how people see Benzino versus how they saw him in the past. His diss was better than Melle Mel. I think Em needs to stay away from any of the racist stuff. His core fan base might not care but he needs to tread lightly because he definitely doesn’t want to say anything that is deemed offensive in the culture. He needs to steer clear of that with Benzino, because he will try to do anything to further that narrative.
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Post by thisman85 on Feb 2, 2024 9:30:17 GMT -5
Yeah you're right. But, Benzino is so broke so I wonder who funded this diss 😂. Doesn't he owe like 5 mil in taxes? Lol I saw a hilarious comment on FB where someone said that Benzino did write this and it took 20+ years.. essentially it took a year to write a bar or 2 😂😂. I think Em needs to bring up the racist thing and point it back at Benzino. And the fact that Benzino mentions Em in every single issue... The proof thing and shady records will definitely be hard for Em. That's for sure. But I hope he comes back with a grown man's diss. This will be interesting. While Em is under the microscope.. there's no way he's going to fall from this. I hope he does a killshot type of diss. Yeah, I agree Em won’t fall from this, but it could elevate how people see Benzino versus how they saw him in the past. His diss was better than Melle Mel. I think Em needs to stay away from any of the racist stuff. His core fan base might not care but he needs to tread lightly because he definitely doesn’t want to say anything that is deemed offensive in the culture. He needs to steer clear of that with Benzino, because he will try to do anything to further that narrative. Honestly, while the flow sucks.. what he was saying was digging deeper than Rap Devil for sure. Everything from the label to mentioning proof probably hit harder than a lot of disses towards Em in the past. When I said Em should bring up the racist stuff, I meant how racist Benzino actually is. There's a video out there from a few years ago when Ben was getting arrested by an Asian officer.. the racial tirade that was spewed against that man was awful to say the least. I wonder if Em could spin that into something smart
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Post by alphagirl01 on Feb 2, 2024 11:11:26 GMT -5
Honestly, while the flow sucks.. what he was saying was digging deeper than Rap Devil for sure. Everything from the label to mentioning proof probably hit harder than a lot of disses towards Em in the past. When I said Em should bring up the racist stuff, I meant how racist Benzino actually is. There's a video out there from a few years ago when Ben was getting arrested by an Asian officer.. the racial tirade that was spewed against that man was awful to say the least. I wonder if Em could spin that into something smart Oh wow! I didn't know Benzino was caught on tape doing that, I knew he was shady in other areas, but that is foul. That is very bigoted. Not racists though. Racism is about using power to oppress someone based on their race and it is systematical like sexism and ageism. Benzino has no power against Asian people (no power against anyone to be honest), especially a policeman. What he did does not affect how people view Asians or impact the status of their livelihood. However, that is bigotry and bias, and it is wrong! Em needs to stay away from talking about other people being racist. There are still tapes out there (Benzino has them) that the courts did not allow Benzino to release, if Em was smart, he would stay away from saying someone is racist. Trust me on this. That is not a conversation he wants started because Benzino could go and try to get those tapes that were banned released again and in this climate, he just might get a judge that allows it. Like I said, I don't think Stans would care, but Em's legacy is bigger than his sales and how many people follow him. Elvis was the biggest thing in rock in his day and now he is just a meme. I'm sure his fans thought his legacy would survive, but it really took a beating. I just think Em should not bring up any racial overtones. Maybe talk about how Benzino's career is a flop like he said about Shady artists.
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Post by tcat on Feb 2, 2024 15:45:36 GMT -5
What article about Kim? How did I miss this? Where is it? Here is a link: www.the-sun.com/entertainment/9156356/eminem-ex-wife-kim-mathers-loan-company-houseThere are a few others on that same website, but this one they actually interviewed her for some of the infromation they reported. I am assuming she got paid for this interview as well since Murdoch publications/tabloids are known to do that. It is the only thing that makes since why she would share this kind of information. That is anotehr reason I don't believe Eminem is doling out money like free candy. Thanks for the link. Poor Kim. She was back in rehab again last year. What is that like her 5th stay. I wish she could find happiness and content in life. Her kids seem to be doing well. She should be proud of that.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Feb 2, 2024 16:22:25 GMT -5
Here is a link: www.the-sun.com/entertainment/9156356/eminem-ex-wife-kim-mathers-loan-company-houseThere are a few others on that same website, but this one they actually interviewed her for some of the infromation they reported. I am assuming she got paid for this interview as well since Murdoch publications/tabloids are known to do that. It is the only thing that makes since why she would share this kind of information. That is anotehr reason I don't believe Eminem is doling out money like free candy. Thanks for the link. Poor Kim. She was back in rehab again last year. What is that like her 5th stay. I wish she could find happiness and content in life. Her kids seem to be doing well. She should be proud of that. I am sure she is super proud of her kids. But I think it likely has to do with mental illness. Also, if she really was an abused child, some people can't get over that and outside forces can't make them happy, if that makes sense. I do give her kudos, her children seem well adjusted and she is taking care of a special needs child. She likely has financial help, but emotional help is much more important sometimes and I feel like she does not really get that and if she does, it is not consistent. But no blame on family and friends, because it can be exhausting supporting someone with mental illness. It also sounds like her son will need care the rest of his life. If his dad is not in the picture (I've heard he is also deceased) then I am sure she worries what will come of him if something happens to her. But then again that makes no sense, since she has attempted to unlife herself at least wtice since he was born, that we know of. Being the wife of a superstar has been both a blessing and a curse for her, unfortunately. Hopefully she is getting the professional help she needs and good she is sober now.
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Post by annie18 on Feb 2, 2024 18:18:02 GMT -5
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Post by kelllly416 on Feb 2, 2024 19:55:32 GMT -5
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Post by GG102 on Feb 2, 2024 20:14:14 GMT -5
Now Joe Budden is weighing in on the diss..."Joe Budden Sides With Eminem In Beef with Benzino"
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Post by thisman85 on Feb 2, 2024 23:01:07 GMT -5
Honestly, while the flow sucks.. what he was saying was digging deeper than Rap Devil for sure. Everything from the label to mentioning proof probably hit harder than a lot of disses towards Em in the past. When I said Em should bring up the racist stuff, I meant how racist Benzino actually is. There's a video out there from a few years ago when Ben was getting arrested by an Asian officer.. the racial tirade that was spewed against that man was awful to say the least. I wonder if Em could spin that into something smart Oh wow! I didn't know Benzino was caught on tape doing that, I knew he was shady in other areas, but that is foul. That is very bigoted. Not racists though. Racism is about using power to oppress someone based on their race and it is systematical like sexism and ageism. Benzino has no power against Asian people (no power against anyone to be honest), especially a policeman. What he did does not affect how people view Asians or impact the status of their livelihood. However, that is bigotry and bias, and it is wrong! Em needs to stay away from talking about other people being racist. There are still tapes out there (Benzino has them) that the courts did not allow Benzino to release, if Em was smart, he would stay away from saying someone is racist. Trust me on this. That is not a conversation he wants started because Benzino could go and try to get those tapes that were banned released again and in this climate, he just might get a judge that allows it. Like I said, I don't think Stans would care, but Em's legacy is bigger than his sales and how many people follow him. Elvis was the biggest thing in rock in his day and now he is just a meme. I'm sure his fans thought his legacy would survive, but it really took a beating. I just think Em should not bring up any racial overtones. Maybe talk about how Benzino's career is a flop like he said about Shady artists. Yeah I see your point with Benzino. But, Em basically said he was a flop in The Sauce and Nail in the coffin (not verbatim.. but basically saying he missed his shot). I know Em Def has to respond, but I don't know how exactly. This is definitely going to be interesting. You can't deaden people's careers like in the past. So, Benzino might be that thorn until he dies. Black people definitely don't fuck with Elvis. But, Em is a different breed. So many of his peers view him as a top tier lyricist. I don't know if people would say the same about Elvis musically. Em has studied the craft through and through which makes him so great. Now when it comes to those tapes Em recorded, I low-key really want to know what was said tbh.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Feb 2, 2024 23:53:22 GMT -5
Oh wow! I didn't know Benzino was caught on tape doing that, I knew he was shady in other areas, but that is foul. That is very bigoted. Not racists though. Racism is about using power to oppress someone based on their race and it is systematical like sexism and ageism. Benzino has no power against Asian people (no power against anyone to be honest), especially a policeman. What he did does not affect how people view Asians or impact the status of their livelihood. However, that is bigotry and bias, and it is wrong! Em needs to stay away from talking about other people being racist. There are still tapes out there (Benzino has them) that the courts did not allow Benzino to release, if Em was smart, he would stay away from saying someone is racist. Trust me on this. That is not a conversation he wants started because Benzino could go and try to get those tapes that were banned released again and in this climate, he just might get a judge that allows it. Like I said, I don't think Stans would care, but Em's legacy is bigger than his sales and how many people follow him. Elvis was the biggest thing in rock in his day and now he is just a meme. I'm sure his fans thought his legacy would survive, but it really took a beating. I just think Em should not bring up any racial overtones. Maybe talk about how Benzino's career is a flop like he said about Shady artists. Yeah I see your point with Benzino. But, Em basically said he was a flop in The Sauce and Nail in the coffin (not verbatim.. but basically saying he missed his shot). I know Em Def has to respond, but I don't know how exactly. This is definitely going to be interesting. You can't deaden people's careers like in the past. So, Benzino might be that thorn until he dies. Black people definitely don't fuck with Elvis. But, Em is a different breed. So many of his peers view him as a top tier lyricist. I don't know if people would say the same about Elvis musically. Em has studied the craft through and through which makes him so great. Now when it comes to those tapes Em recorded, I low-key really want to know what was said tbh. Well, a lot of people don't know Elvis's origins but it was VERY similar to Eminem. He grew up in poverty and hung out at places where the Black community perform as early as like 8 years old. He was close friends with B.B. King. I'm not sure if you know him, but he sings Rhythm and Blues (kind of the gradnfather of rock) and Black people loved him and he had a huge rep in those days, kind of like Dr. Dre. There were other Black artists that guided Elvis and encouraged him. You should actually watch the film "Elvis" if you have not already. Baz Luhrmann did a great deal of research when putting this film together. Em also has a song on the soundtrack, which I thought was interesting. Probably because he was made abreast f how similar his situation was to Eminem's. I even think Elvis's relationship with his manager is very similar to how his relationship appears to be with Paul, without teh shadiness (but who knows). It gave me a new perspective on Elvis after watching this film. It also made me realize that labels are the culprit when it comes to some of the things Black people object to when it comes to White artists dominating Black spaces in music. This is sledom told, but Elvis was also known to say he was indebted to Black artists and would credit B. B. King, Arthur "Big Boy" Crudup, Ivory Joe Hunter and Fats Domino, among others. Watch this clip from the film. Regarding those tapes, I do too. They did release some of what was on "So Many Styles" only a snippet, though. There are rumors of a third track as well. The craziest part is Em took The Source to court to prevent the release. He claimed that he did not recognize "So Many Styles," but he still argued publishing it in The Source would infringe upon his copyrights. My thing is, if it's not you, how is it copyright infringement. Well the courts bought it and only allowed a small portion to be used under free use because they were a publication. Also, when Em was on Howard Stern before these tapes were released, a classmate called in and Stern was asking about how Eminem has a Black accent and the girl said that there was only one Black person at their school and it was a guy, and Eminem agreed with her. Obviously Benzino and Dave Mays never thought to go to his school and look in a year book. They could have blown his "I dated a black girl at my high school" story wide open. But most people get Proof's school Osbourne confused with Em's school Lincoln. A podcast was recently talking about they listened to some of the tapes and Em was saying something about Black girls being stupid for sleeping with Black guys, which makes no sense bcause who they suppsoe to sleep with? He said something similar in "Foolish Pride." I'm sure Benzino has let people listen to those tapes. I can't beleive he hasn't released them and then just file bankruptcy. Worse can happen is Eminem will sue him. He broke anyway. That's how I know Bezino isn't pure evil, he is just an idiot and jealous of Eminem.
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Post by Admin on Feb 2, 2024 23:53:45 GMT -5
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