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Post by tcat on May 27, 2016 12:45:17 GMT -5
I just thought of something...
Kim said in her Mojo interview that she and Em are really good friends, just trying to raise their kids and that he has been supportive of her. But remember the Mojo interview she did when her cousin was on and she said in that interview that she and Em weren't back together but were really good friends trying to raise their kids, but in reality we learned they really were back together. I wonder if they are back together again but just trying to keep it quiet. I have read elsewhere from "insiders" that they barely speak and if they do, it is only related to their kids but I don't give much reliability to "insiders". So, who knows.
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Post by me on May 27, 2016 13:07:50 GMT -5
I just thought of something... Kim said in her Mojo interview that she and Em are really good friends, just trying to raise their kids and that he has been supportive of her. But remember the Mojo interview she did when her cousin was on and she said in that interview that she and Em weren't back together but were really good friends trying to raise their kids, but in reality we learned they really were back together. I wonder if they are back together again but just trying to keep it quiet. I have read elsewhere from "insiders" that they barely speak and if they do, it is only related to their kids but I don't give much reliability to "insiders". So, who knows. But the Mojo interview with her cousin was in 2002, right around when Kim took off to Canada with her bf to escape jail time, and Em and Kim didn't get back together before like late 2003/early 2004, according to Kim in the interviews in 2006 about their divorce anyways. Idon't think they're together, I've also read about them not being so close anymore.
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Post by tcat on May 27, 2016 13:13:23 GMT -5
I just thought of something... Kim said in her Mojo interview that she and Em are really good friends, just trying to raise their kids and that he has been supportive of her. But remember the Mojo interview she did when her cousin was on and she said in that interview that she and Em weren't back together but were really good friends trying to raise their kids, but in reality we learned they really were back together. I wonder if they are back together again but just trying to keep it quiet. I have read elsewhere from "insiders" that they barely speak and if they do, it is only related to their kids but I don't give much reliability to "insiders". So, who knows. But the Mojo interview with her cousin was in 2002, right around when Kim took off to Canada with her bf to escape jail time, and Em and Kim didn't get back together before like late 2003/early 2004, according to Kim in the interviews in 2006 about their divorce anyways. Idon't think they're together, I've also read about them not being so close anymore. I thought they briefly got back together around the time 8 Mile came out. Wasn't this around the time 8 Mile came out?
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Post by me on May 27, 2016 13:20:29 GMT -5
But the Mojo interview with her cousin was in 2002, right around when Kim took off to Canada with her bf to escape jail time, and Em and Kim didn't get back together before like late 2003/early 2004, according to Kim in the interviews in 2006 about their divorce anyways. Idon't think they're together, I've also read about them not being so close anymore. I thought they briefly got back together around the time 8 Mile came out. Wasn't this around the time 8 Mile came out? No I don't think they were together, Kim was pregnant with Whitney and Em was furious, saying he didn't want anything to do with the baby, and Em was with Brittany Murphy and later that girl Lynette (if we believe Jenny) around that time. It was in 2000 after Em filed for divorce, after Kim's suicide attempt, that they got back together to try to work things out, but thenKim filed for divorce a few months later, when they then actually got divorced. Maybe you're thinking of that? But that was before the Jenny book and interview.
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Post by sparrow on May 27, 2016 13:40:52 GMT -5
She said she is in counseling. I agree that she needs some type of punishment, especially considering she did this on purpose. I think she actually deserves jail time - like 30 days in jail. This isn't her first DUI and again, she did this on purpose. The last time she was in jail it seemed to help her get clean. Maybe another stint in jail will give her the motivation she needs to quit drinking again. Idk if I agree on jail, I think rather rehab, if that's what she needs, or some mental hospital or something. She needs help mentally and I'm not sure jail is the right place for that. Also last time she was in jail she was also in rehab for, was it 90 days? I mean she needs to get something but I'm just not sure jail is the best solution. Idk maybe I'm wrong Yeah, I would rather see alcoholics and drug addicts go to rehab than jail. The punishment mentality of the prison system doesn't help addiction, IMO. I don't want to be that annoying person who talks about AA all the time but in my meetings a lot of people talk about going back to using drugs and/or alcohol after jail time because they were traumatized from prison rape or fights and also couldn't find a job because they now have criminal records. With (involuntary) rehab you're still locked up but it's in a hospital environment where you're given help and treated with respect.
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Post by me on May 27, 2016 13:48:55 GMT -5
Idk if I agree on jail, I think rather rehab, if that's what she needs, or some mental hospital or something. She needs help mentally and I'm not sure jail is the right place for that. Also last time she was in jail she was also in rehab for, was it 90 days? I mean she needs to get something but I'm just not sure jail is the best solution. Idk maybe I'm wrong Yeah, I would rather see alcoholics and drug addicts go to rehab than jail. The punishment mentality of the prison system doesn't help addiction, IMO. I don't want to be that annoying person who talks about AA all the time but in my meetings a lot of people talk about going back to using drugs and/or alcohol after jail time because they were traumatized from prison rape or fights and also couldn't find a job because they now have criminal records. With (involuntary) rehab you're still locked up but it's in a hospital environment where you're given help and treated with respect. Yeah, exactly, that's what I've heard too!
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Post by GG102 on May 27, 2016 14:56:52 GMT -5
Jail is not the solution because she didn't kill anyone, though Kim could've killed herself. Just goes to show you...No matter how much money you have, no matter how wonderful the home you live in is, nor how many children you have that depend on you...If you're miserable and unhappy none of that is going to take a negative mindset away. At her age, Kim needs help because she certainly hasn't learned anything from all she's been through and from where she's come from. Really sad. For Kim and everyone close to her. Wonder if EM now has full custody of Whitney since Kim seems unfit to raise a minor.
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Post by cally on May 27, 2016 18:00:07 GMT -5
Idk if I agree on jail, I think rather rehab, if that's what she needs, or some mental hospital or something. She needs help mentally and I'm not sure jail is the right place for that. Also last time she was in jail she was also in rehab for, was it 90 days? I mean she needs to get something but I'm just not sure jail is the best solution. Idk maybe I'm wrong Yeah, I would rather see alcoholics and drug addicts go to rehab than jail. The punishment mentality of the prison system doesn't help addiction, IMO. I don't want to be that annoying person who talks about AA all the time but in my meetings a lot of people talk about going back to using drugs and/or alcohol after jail time because they were traumatized from prison rape or fights and also couldn't find a job because they now have criminal records. With (involuntary) rehab you're still locked up but it's in a hospital environment where you're given help and treated with respect. I agree. Even if she did it on purpose, that clearly doesn't mean she was in a good state of mind, I mean, it doesn't matter if you have money or you have kids, when you're going through a depression nothing else matters and you're unable to see a positive thing, and that DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T LOVE YOUR CHILDREN. She needs the right help and she can't get that in jail, I agree she needs some kind of punishment (or however it says) but maybe she could do a short jail.time or community service or whatever the judge says after her mental treatment. Sometimes therapy takes a long time, sometimes it doesn't and sometimes you need to change the therapist when maybe this one isn't quite working for you. Oh and I don't think they're back together but I do believe they're somehow close and keep a close communication at least once a weak...although is not necessary that often communication when the girls are grown up and don't need a mediation between parents that much.
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Post by GG102 on May 27, 2016 20:18:50 GMT -5
There's absolutely no way a recovering addict could live under the same roof as an addict and survive. Ems evolved and Kim's regressed. I am sure he offers "support," and keeps his distance for the sake of his sobriety.
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Post by tcat on May 27, 2016 20:29:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I would rather see alcoholics and drug addicts go to rehab than jail. The punishment mentality of the prison system doesn't help addiction, IMO. I don't want to be that annoying person who talks about AA all the time but in my meetings a lot of people talk about going back to using drugs and/or alcohol after jail time because they were traumatized from prison rape or fights and also couldn't find a job because they now have criminal records. With (involuntary) rehab you're still locked up but it's in a hospital environment where you're given help and treated with respect. I agree. Even if she did it on purpose, that clearly doesn't mean she was in a good state of mind, I mean, it doesn't matter if you have money or you have kids, when you're going through a depression nothing else matters and you're unable to see a positive thing, and that DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T LOVE YOUR CHILDREN. She needs the right help and she can't get that in jail, I agree she needs some kind of punishment (or however it says) but maybe she could do a short jail.time or community service or whatever the judge says after her mental treatment. Sometimes therapy takes a long time, sometimes it doesn't and sometimes you need to change the therapist when maybe this one isn't quite working for you. Oh and I don't think they're back together but I do believe they're somehow close and keep a close communication at least once a weak...although is not necessary that often communication when the girls are grown up and don't need a mediation between parents that much. That's actually what I was saying, 30 days in jail. I never meant to imply they should lock her up and throw away the key or that she shouldn't receive therapy. Because she stated in her Mojo interview she was getting help, ordering mandatory rehab would be mute, since she is already in therapy. I hear what everyone is saying but I respectfully disagree. I understand she is suffering from depression and needs help, but she purposely drank a 5th of rum and got in her car and drove. She could have killed someone else. I don't think that depression is an excuse for breaking the law. She is still responsible for her actions and should be held accountable. She is a grown woman with unlimited resources that 99% of us don't have. She knows right from wrong and she knows what the law is, even in her inebriated state (she said in the interview she told the 1st responders immediately that she had been drinking and apologized profusely). Temporarily losing her freedom for a month may be what she needs to motivate her to stick with her therapy. It seemed to help the last time she went to jail. Sometimes people need to hit rock bottom (like going to jail) to give them the kick they need to get their life together.
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Post by GG102 on May 27, 2016 21:09:16 GMT -5
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Post by alleycat on May 28, 2016 0:45:37 GMT -5
Kim as depression ,yes she should have her licence taken off her but sending her to jail because she might hit rock bottom is not the solution , sitting round a group and saying I am Kim and I am depressed is not the solution either,she needs the right help and medication and therapy not locked up, and even then it's usually a life long battle
Depression is different from addiction you can't see what's going on in their minds they don't walk round with dilated pupils of their head ,and they attempt to take their life because they think the people around them are better off without them , not because she is selfish whatever ,don't judge people with depression , anybody not just Kim,telling someone who is depressed to grow up, really just do not understand what depression really is
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2016 2:08:05 GMT -5
I thought they briefly got back together around the time 8 Mile came out. Wasn't this around the time 8 Mile came out? No I don't think they were together, Kim was pregnant with Whitney and Em was furious, saying he didn't want anything to do with the baby, and Em was with Brittany Murphy and later that girl Lynette (if we believe Jenny) around that time. It was in 2000 after Em filed for divorce, after Kim's suicide attempt, that they got back together to try to work things out, but thenKim filed for divorce a few months later, when they then actually got divorced. Maybe you're thinking of that? But that was before the Jenny book and interview. I think this is the Em Kim timeline: -Dating 1987 - 1996 -Get back together after record deal with Dre, maybe late 97 -Married June, 99 - Divorce August, 2000 -Get back together fall of 2002 -Breakup spring of 2003 - I can't remember if it was before or after she was arrested for possession in June 2003 but around that time. -She gets out of jail fall of 2004, they get back together shortly thereafter -Married January 2006 - Divorce April 2006 ..And that's all folks.
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Post by me on May 28, 2016 4:08:34 GMT -5
No I don't think they were together, Kim was pregnant with Whitney and Em was furious, saying he didn't want anything to do with the baby, and Em was with Brittany Murphy and later that girl Lynette (if we believe Jenny) around that time. It was in 2000 after Em filed for divorce, after Kim's suicide attempt, that they got back together to try to work things out, but thenKim filed for divorce a few months later, when they then actually got divorced. Maybe you're thinking of that? But that was before the Jenny book and interview. I think this is the Em Kim timeline: -Dating 1987 - 1996 -Get back together after record deal with Dre, maybe late 97 -Married June, 99 - Divorce August, 2000 -Get back together fall of 2002 -Breakup spring of 2003 - I can't remember if it was before or after she was arrested for possession in June 2003 but around that time. -She gets out of jail fall of 2004, they get back together shortly thereafter -Married January 2006 - Divorce April 2006 ..And that's all folks. They got divorced in 2001tho. Em filed for divorce was it august 2000, but they didn't go through with it and announced they're working on their marriage in december 2000. Kim then filed for divorce in march/april(?) 2001 and their divorce was finalized in october (?) 2001. And they were not together when she was arrested for the cocaine. Has she been arrested for possesion of cocaine twice tho? 2001 and 2003?
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Post by Admin on May 28, 2016 5:36:34 GMT -5
I think this is the Em Kim timeline: -Dating 1987 - 1996 -Get back together after record deal with Dre, maybe late 97 -Married June, 99 - Divorce August, 2000 -Get back together fall of 2002 -Breakup spring of 2003 - I can't remember if it was before or after she was arrested for possession in June 2003 but around that time. -She gets out of jail fall of 2004, they get back together shortly thereafter -Married January 2006 - Divorce April 2006 ..And that's all folks. They got divorced in 2001tho. Em filed for divorce was it august 2000, but they didn't go through with it and announced they're working on their marriage in december 2000. Kim then filed for divorce in march/april(?) 2001 and their divorce was finalized in october (?) 2001. And they were not together when she was arrested for the cocaine. Has she been arrested for possesion of cocaine twice tho? 2001 and 2003? Right, now I vaguely remember them getting back together at the end of 2000. Yes, she was arrested twice for possession in 2001 and 2003 www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/eminems-ex-arrested
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