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Post by willowmoonblood on May 6, 2016 17:56:28 GMT -5
I think she means her stepdad but I am not sure I am not sure. I know my mom and her cousin never knew their bio dad's growing up, but when both of their dad's became ill later in life they were both contacted as next of kin and had to basically look after them. My mom just put her dad in a nursing home, her cousin though actually moved her dad into her home and looked after him. Maybe the same thing happened to Kim?? Just speculating
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Post by cally on May 6, 2016 18:09:04 GMT -5
Well I can relate to that...sadly...but let's hope she's getting help with a therapist and that's a safe place so... And what about the father? I don't know anything THIS is why I need this board!!I can't get my information anywhere else She said her father almost died and she had to teach him how to walk and stuff again. That on top of caring for her son with special needs caused her to do what she did. Maybe she meant step father, no one really mentions her father or step father. I know I heard that her mother lived with her, but no mention of her mom's spouse LOL. And yes this is why we need this board everywhere else they are just stating "she is still at it" or "why is her name still Mathers" LOL Maybe is his stepfather..we can't get to know all of this private info but we can have ante idea of what a hell she's going through
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Post by GG102 on May 6, 2016 19:38:30 GMT -5
Why, if all of Kim's illness, has been going on for quite a while that no one has intervened? Seriously, is EM that oblivious, her grown children...Hailie and Alaina, and what about the guy she lives with. Not to mention her mother?! Hello. What strikes me as a "twin thang" is that Kim tried to kill herself before her sister, Dawn. But Dawn beat her to the punch. Although Kim isn't on heroin or crack, her path and her sister's in uncanny. And sad.
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Post by Admin on May 7, 2016 1:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by cally on May 7, 2016 8:18:17 GMT -5
I eally hope she´s getting the right help, she can be dangerously impulsive but I think she can be just fine when she´s not like that so maybe that´s why she´s not like in a Hospital or something, there´s people who can be ok just with therapy, and I doubt none of the people in her circle has not do anything (specially her kids)
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Post by alleycat on May 7, 2016 9:21:34 GMT -5
They also implied that em is a well known pill head in Michigan on that site,I really think people shouldn't read to much on what is wrote on these sites
Depression is awful conditiion,if she thought she was better of out of this world before God knows what's she is thinking now ,she should be left in peace and try to get as much help as possible without people pointing fingers and judging her ,she sounded in a real bad place
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Post by tcat on May 7, 2016 17:11:51 GMT -5
Why, if all of Kim's illness, has been going on for quite a while that no one has intervened? Seriously, is EM that oblivious, her grown children...Hailie and Alaina, and what about the guy she lives with. Not to mention her mother?! Hello. What strikes me as a "twin thang" is that Kim tried to kill herself before her sister, Dawn. But Dawn beat her to the punch. Although Kim isn't on heroin or crack, her path and her sister's in uncanny. And sad. You can't save someone from themselves and I am sure that Em of all people knows this. You can't blame Em or her mom or anyone else for the demons she is battling. Just like you can't blame anyone but Em for his drug problem. Once he owned it, he controlled it. No one else could do that for him. Royce has talked about this when he has discussed his drinking problem. People all around him tried to get him into rehab but it wasn't until he was ready to go and ready to quit that he made it happen. Is she actually living with a guy? I thought she was living with her son's father but they broke up several years ago.
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Post by tcat on May 7, 2016 17:19:54 GMT -5
I'm just wondering why if she was trying to kill herself was she wearing a seat belt. In one of those videos you can hear the first responder ask if she was wearing a seat belt and a guy said yes but he used his pocket knife to cut it off her because she was tangled up in it. I mean if you are sitting at the end of the road and hoping to run your car into a pole and not make it out alive, wouldn't you take your seat belt off? I still think that she was drunk, wrecked her car and then realized the shit she was in and was probably wishing at that moment she was dead. Again, in one of the audios where they arrest her, she seemed surprised they were arresting her. Like she was maybe thinking that telling them it was a suicide attempt and no one else was hurt would get her out of a DUI. That also seems to be what her attorney is now arguing. I also remember a couple of years back on the old board someone had seen a tweet from I think Royce's wife implying that Em was the stable and involved parent, or the "good parent" so to speak. Maybe this is what she was referring to. I think Kim has been off the wagon for awhile now. I'm glad to hear she is getting help.
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 7, 2016 17:26:43 GMT -5
I'm just wondering why if she was trying to kill herself was she wearing a seat belt. In one of those videos you can hear the first responder ask if she was wearing a seat belt and a guy said yes but he used his pocket knife to cut it off her because she was tangled up in it. I mean if you are sitting at the end of the road and hoping to run your car into a pole and not make it out alive, wouldn't you take your seat belt off? I still think that she was drunk, wrecked her car and then realized the shit she was in and was probably wishing at that moment she was dead. Again, in one of the audios where they arrest her, she seemed surprised they were arresting her. Like she was maybe thinking that telling them it was a suicide attempt and no one else was hurt would get her out of a DUI. That also seems to be what her attorney is now arguing. I also remember a couple of years back on the old board someone had seen a tweet from I think Royce's wife implying that Em was the stable and involved parent, or the "good parent" so to speak. Maybe this is what she was referring to. I think Kim has been off the wagon for awhile now. I'm glad to hear she is getting help. I remember that tweet too tcat. Also I remember reading on some random board a thread about Em and someone who child went to school with Hailie implied basically the same thing, that Em was the parent that was stable and no one ever seen Kim. Then again remember when Alania got the tattoo and dedicated it to her parents that was just a few years ago so I would assume that Kim was sober then?? I also wondered if the Hills remix had anything to do with this LOL. I know I am grasping but the accident happened a few days before the release of Em's remix. Some people speculated that it could be about Kim, maybe he warned her and she freaked. When I was thinking this though I thought she was still in a relationship with her son's father, so I doubt that is what was really behind it.
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Post by Admin on May 8, 2016 2:03:50 GMT -5
I'm just wondering why if she was trying to kill herself was she wearing a seat belt. In one of those videos you can hear the first responder ask if she was wearing a seat belt and a guy said yes but he used his pocket knife to cut it off her because she was tangled up in it. I mean if you are sitting at the end of the road and hoping to run your car into a pole and not make it out alive, wouldn't you take your seat belt off? I still think that she was drunk, wrecked her car and then realized the shit she was in and was probably wishing at that moment she was dead. Again, in one of the audios where they arrest her, she seemed surprised they were arresting her. Like she was maybe thinking that telling them it was a suicide attempt and no one else was hurt would get her out of a DUI. That also seems to be what her attorney is now arguing. I also remember a couple of years back on the old board someone had seen a tweet from I think Royce's wife implying that Em was the stable and involved parent, or the "good parent" so to speak. Maybe this is what she was referring to. I think Kim has been off the wagon for awhile now. I'm glad to hear she is getting help. She was drunk in some sort of mental state and suicidal, so I can see how taking off the seat belt might slip her mind. Also, maybe subconsciously this was one of those cries for help/attention type of things, but I do think this was a legit suicide attempt. She seemed a bit hurried or manic in the interview, which makes me worry that she's still in a bad way. I just hope she turns things around again.
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Post by tcat on May 8, 2016 8:20:20 GMT -5
I'm just wondering why if she was trying to kill herself was she wearing a seat belt. In one of those videos you can hear the first responder ask if she was wearing a seat belt and a guy said yes but he used his pocket knife to cut it off her because she was tangled up in it. I mean if you are sitting at the end of the road and hoping to run your car into a pole and not make it out alive, wouldn't you take your seat belt off? I still think that she was drunk, wrecked her car and then realized the shit she was in and was probably wishing at that moment she was dead. Again, in one of the audios where they arrest her, she seemed surprised they were arresting her. Like she was maybe thinking that telling them it was a suicide attempt and no one else was hurt would get her out of a DUI. That also seems to be what her attorney is now arguing. I also remember a couple of years back on the old board someone had seen a tweet from I think Royce's wife implying that Em was the stable and involved parent, or the "good parent" so to speak. Maybe this is what she was referring to. I think Kim has been off the wagon for awhile now. I'm glad to hear she is getting help. She was drunk in some sort of mental state and suicidal, so I can see how taking off the seat belt might slip her mind. Also, maybe subconsciously this was one of those cries for help/attention type of things, but I do think this was a legit suicide attempt. She seemed a bit hurried or manic in the interview, which makes me worry that she's still in a bad way. I just hope she turns things around again. yeah, maybe you're right. She definitely sounds like she is still in a bad place which is why I am glad she is getting help. I hope she sticks with it and finds some peace in her life. I can see how she might have been getting better and then was dealt a big blow with her sisters death. It also makes sense now why she posted several comments on her sisters obituary board a month after she died. One question I did have is she talked about her dad almost dying and having to help nurse him back to health. Is this her stepdad and didn't he molest her when she was a kid? I thought that was something Debbie said in her book. Is that true or is that just something sensational that Debbie said?
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Post by PlayMyJam on May 8, 2016 18:52:19 GMT -5
Ok... this is sad and a surprise. I didn't even know about any DUI last year and now this. I hope she will get better.
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Post by sophiemom on May 8, 2016 22:35:30 GMT -5
Ok... this is sad and a surprise. I didn't even know about any DUI last year and now this. I hope she will get better. Me too! She just seems so fragile but to me she has always seemed fragile. I can't imagine my boyfriend (or ex maybe I do not know their status at the time) performing a song about brutally killing me right in front of me. Thats a dick move right there and he was dead wrong for that. I hope she is getting the care and support she needs and she is working her program.
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Post by tcat on May 8, 2016 23:15:07 GMT -5
Ok... this is sad and a surprise. I didn't even know about any DUI last year and now this. I hope she will get better. Me too! She just seems so fragile but to me she has always seemed fragile. I can't imagine my boyfriend (or ex maybe I do not know their status at the time) performing a song about brutally killing me right in front of me. Thats a dick move right there and he was dead wrong for that. I hope she is getting the care and support she needs and she is working her program. That was over 15 years ago that happened and she married Em again after that incident. I hope she has moved on and not still carrying a grudge, even if he never apologized to her for it. I imagine he did or she wouldn't have married him again. Holding anger against someone else is like feeding them poison but you're the one who gets sick. You need to cut the toxic people out of your life and forgive them for the pain they caused you, for your own sanity. She said they are really good friends now so hopefully they have both been able to put their problems behind them. They seem to bring out the worst in each other when they are together and do much better when they are not. I had an aunt and uncle who were like that. They really loved one another but were horrible to each other when they were together - for 25 years. They were always separating and getting back together. They cheated on one another. They both abused alcohol and prescription drugs. There were suicide attempts. But all that chaos came to an end when they finally divorced. They had a much better relationship once they finally divorced and married other people, even though they still loved one another. When my aunt died, her first husband was much, much more devastated by her death than the guy she was married to.
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Post by me on May 8, 2016 23:46:53 GMT -5
Ok... this is sad and a surprise. I didn't even know about any DUI last year and now this. I hope she will get better. No one knew before last week when it hit the news. So sad! I'm just curius, if this all happened in october, why did it come out now, 6 months later? I'm sure her documents were sealed long ago. And she hasn't been to court yet.
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