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Post by matty on Mar 14, 2022 15:53:21 GMT -5
That video u shared tcat I went to go read the comments and someone linked the beef dvd from back in the day because proof was talking about royces ego. Well right after that they played a Royce diss song towards D12 and one of the lines was “ill call Paul and have u write him off on one of his taxes…” It’s becoming clearer and clearer Royce had more a relationship with Paul than Em does/did. Plus Paul was the one who set up the meeting between Em and Royce with Royces manager back in the day. I wonder if Paul low key thought Em would only get so far and wanted Royce is in his back pocket? Not in a bad way but just in thinking Em wasn’t going to be his only client I have NO idea and I’m just thinking out loud. But I hope Paul is finally over royce. Around 9:15
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Post by GG102 on Mar 14, 2022 20:14:43 GMT -5
"KXNG Crooked Says Slaughterhouse Music Was Delayed or Scrapped Mostly Because of Joe Budden"
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 16:05:20 GMT -5
Relistening to joes podcast and it almost seems like he is confused as to why Royce chose him over Em lol. Joe knows he ain’t gonna rap and so does Royce. I think he knows now that Royce is gonna depend on joe to do a podcast or help him with it. He even drops some hints low key that Royce did Em dirty. You have to read between the lines but now Royce is gonna cling to him since now Em doesn’t seem to happy with him and joe is like fuck man.
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Post by sparrow on Mar 15, 2022 18:05:44 GMT -5
"KXNG Crooked Says Slaughterhouse Music Was Delayed or Scrapped Mostly Because of Joe Budden"
OMG the comments are the best. Everyone is saying Joe destroys whatever he touches and that he wants control of finances so he can fuck ppl over like he did Rory and Mal. Why would anyone vouch for this man? Em's instincts were correct from day 1.
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Post by summertimelive on Mar 15, 2022 19:06:44 GMT -5
^ he does, I think Jay Z also beefed and dislikes joe as well. And THAT is the real reason he will never have a rap career again. Because one thing about Jay Z, he gonna successfully black ball you if he has a problem with you.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Mar 15, 2022 19:13:56 GMT -5
^ he does, I think Jay Z also beefed and dislikes joe as well. And THAT is the real reason he will never have a rap career again. Because one thing about Jay Z, he gonna successfully black ball you if he has a problem with you. Do you know what Jay-z and Joe beefed about? Man, Joe is a hot mess!
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 19:57:05 GMT -5
^ he does, I think Jay Z also beefed and dislikes joe as well. And THAT is the real reason he will never have a rap career again. Because one thing about Jay Z, he gonna successfully black ball you if he has a problem with you. Joe had a pretty steady rap career after Jay because Jay went soft with him. drake kind of fucked things up for him more so though. shady was the last ditched attempt and he really wasn’t there to rap. He wanted money real quick and launch his stupid podcast that he thinks is worth way more than it is
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Post by summertimelive on Mar 15, 2022 20:24:35 GMT -5
^ he does, I think Jay Z also beefed and dislikes joe as well. And THAT is the real reason he will never have a rap career again. Because one thing about Jay Z, he gonna successfully black ball you if he has a problem with you. Do you know what Jay-z and Joe beefed about? Man, Joe is a hot mess! This video explains it
I still think Jay is the real reason Joe will never have another song again lol. Like I literally used to hear this man's songs before this. It reminds me of the lil mama situation. Like all she did was get on stage with him when she wasn't supposed to and despite the other good projects and appearances she has done, she never regained the same amount of attention and success again
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Post by tcat on Mar 15, 2022 20:41:54 GMT -5
Relistening to joes podcast and it almost seems like he is confused as to why Royce chose him over Em lol. Joe knows he ain’t gonna rap and so does Royce. I think he knows now that Royce is gonna depend on joe to do a podcast or help him with it. He even drops some hints low key that Royce did Em dirty. You have to read between the lines but now Royce is gonna cling to him since now Em doesn’t seem to happy with him and joe is like fuck man. Maybe Royce didn't choose Joe over Em. Maybe Em made the decision for him. I just don't think Em is tight with Royce. I imagine Royce gives him anxiety.
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 20:46:36 GMT -5
Relistening to joes podcast and it almost seems like he is confused as to why Royce chose him over Em lol. Joe knows he ain’t gonna rap and so does Royce. I think he knows now that Royce is gonna depend on joe to do a podcast or help him with it. He even drops some hints low key that Royce did Em dirty. You have to read between the lines but now Royce is gonna cling to him since now Em doesn’t seem to happy with him and joe is like fuck man. Maybe Royce didn't choose Joe over Em. Maybe Em made the decision for him. I just don't think Em is tight with Royce. I imagine Royce gives him anxiety. Paul apparently called Royce and said they wouldn’t do the album with joe but wanted to do it with the three of them after the whole revival issue Royce turned them down and said he wanted off the label It makes sense because they got off the label like a year ago and it seemed like Paul was being aggressive sucking up to Royce between 2018-2021 and it probably was him trying to be like “choose man..we did all of this shit for u…” u know the Grammy nom was Paul for sure. And Paul was postin royces shit and getting him on the board and all this crap. I think he might have felt guilty signing SH because it hurt Em so he was trying his best to at least fix the Royce thing I think Em was sitting back to see where the loyalty lied while keeping distance and got his answer But who knows. Royce could be lying but crook said the same thing i do think Royce gives Em major anxiety tho especially now. Heck he gives me anxiety
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 20:47:57 GMT -5
Do you know what Jay-z and Joe beefed about? Man, Joe is a hot mess! This video explains it
I still think Jay is the real reason Joe will never have another song again lol. Like I literally used to hear this man's songs before this. It reminds me of the lil mama situation. Like all she did was get on stage with him when she wasn't supposed to and despite the other good projects and appearances she has done, she never regained the same amount of attention and success again
Joe had some really apperciated underground shit and Jay was cool with him for a while it was drake really. But Jay could have squashed him in a heart beat if he really wanted to ive seen that video multiple times
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Post by annie18 on Mar 15, 2022 21:07:01 GMT -5
Relistening to joes podcast and it almost seems like he is confused as to why Royce chose him over Em lol. Joe knows he ain’t gonna rap and so does Royce. I think he knows now that Royce is gonna depend on joe to do a podcast or help him with it. He even drops some hints low key that Royce did Em dirty. You have to read between the lines but now Royce is gonna cling to him since now Em doesn’t seem to happy with him and joe is like fuck man. Maybe Royce didn't choose Joe over Em. Maybe Em made the decision for him. I just don't think Em is tight with Royce. I imagine Royce gives him anxiety. Yeah, I don't think they're really close and I bet Em didn't appreciate all this SH drama. Royce is not someone he can trust right now, he's like too volatile and his ranting is so unpredictable and contradictory. He may spill some "sensitive information" 'cause I can't find another good reason why Em's team is still close to this snake.
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 21:13:21 GMT -5
Maybe Royce didn't choose Joe over Em. Maybe Em made the decision for him. I just don't think Em is tight with Royce. I imagine Royce gives him anxiety. Yeah, I don't think they're really close and I bet Em didn't appreciate all this SH drama. Royce is not someone he can trust right now, he's like too volatile and his ranting is so unpredictable and contradictory. He may spill some "sensitive information" 'cause I can't find another good reason why Em's team is still close to this snake. He legit lies at times and has eluded to some scary ass shit i get why Em avoids him. He really is worst than joe man. Got crazy eyes
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Post by tcat on Mar 15, 2022 21:43:12 GMT -5
I think Em keeps him somewhat in the circle, like hasn't totally iced Royce out. I think he does this as a way of keeping Royce content because if he doesn't he knows what a messy bitch Royce is and he will try and damage his career.
I can totally see Royce starting some shit and making things up about Em just for attention and drama. And Em knows it. So he keeps him at arms length, but keeps him in the circle.
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Post by matty on Mar 15, 2022 21:50:31 GMT -5
I think Em keeps him somewhat in the circle, like hasn't totally iced Royce out. I think he does this as a way of keeping Royce content because if he doesn't he knows what a messy bitch Royce is and he will try and damage his career. I can totally see Royce starting some shit and making things up about Em just for attention and drama. And Em knows it. So he keeps him at arms length, but keeps him in the circle. I hope after all this shit there is more of a divide. If Em doesn’t say anything bad about him Royce will look real foul coming for him especially since a lot of the industry is noticing how messy he is. how long can this gremlin use him for? It makes me nervous and the more access he has to Em the more leverage he has. But it’s clear he hasn’t directly spoken to Em in a very long time and u know it’s pissing him off
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