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Post by alphagirl01 on Jun 10, 2024 18:10:26 GMT -5
Unfortunately, most people don't read the fine print of social media. Anything ANYONE post on social media, unless it is copyrighted material (or brand identity/celebrity) is not protected and is actually techinically owned by the platform. This came under scrutiny a few years ago when famous artist Richard Prince took images off of Instagram of random influencers, added a treatment, blew them up and held an exhibit in New York. The pieces went for as much as $40,000 and the people in the pictures got zero for it. So, if peopel liek Ashley don't want their pics taken, they need to set their account to private, that is why the fetaure is there. She is a nobody, fame wisde liek you alluded to, so why does she need a public profile, really if it bugs her so muc. Personally, think she is one of the epopel who leaks pictures, because now there are photos of her and her daughter at Hailie's wedding on a fan page. It's one of those booths so it is either her or the booth people and she does photo booths so she likely did that fro the wedding. Now, when it comes to kids, they should definitely steer clear, but their accounts should be private as well and she should have attorneys send a cease and desist letter. I wonder if they have taken those steps yet? No, i completely agree with you, I just don’t understand the way they mock and humiliate one fan page for being an ‘eminem stalker’, whilst simultaneously stalking his family in a far more disturbing manner. I do believe she’s asked fan pages to not post her private wedding photos or her kids. Her daughter does also has a public account and she has shared the photo booth photos, but do photos of Nate’s wife and step daughter really need to be shared on Hailie fan pages? I understand the pictures are from hailie’s wedding, but they don’t contain Hailie, so if they wouldn’t go through her friends posts and share any photos they’ve posted, why do it to Ashley and her daughter? It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it.
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Post by missy84 on Jun 10, 2024 18:17:27 GMT -5
No, i completely agree with you, I just don’t understand the way they mock and humiliate one fan page for being an ‘eminem stalker’, whilst simultaneously stalking his family in a far more disturbing manner. I do believe she’s asked fan pages to not post her private wedding photos or her kids. Her daughter does also has a public account and she has shared the photo booth photos, but do photos of Nate’s wife and step daughter really need to be shared on Hailie fan pages? I understand the pictures are from hailie’s wedding, but they don’t contain Hailie, so if they wouldn’t go through her friends posts and share any photos they’ve posted, why do it to Ashley and her daughter? It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it. I think it was Alaina who blocked the one fan page not too long ago. I always felt there could be someone in their friend group giving pictures to some of these fan pages or maybe someone in their circle runs one of them. If they truly don’t want their stuff out there they would have to go private and really keep tight control of who can access their stuff. It cracks me up When they do Q&A about the family.
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Post by ej18 on Jun 10, 2024 18:25:23 GMT -5
No, i completely agree with you, I just don’t understand the way they mock and humiliate one fan page for being an ‘eminem stalker’, whilst simultaneously stalking his family in a far more disturbing manner. I do believe she’s asked fan pages to not post her private wedding photos or her kids. Her daughter does also has a public account and she has shared the photo booth photos, but do photos of Nate’s wife and step daughter really need to be shared on Hailie fan pages? I understand the pictures are from hailie’s wedding, but they don’t contain Hailie, so if they wouldn’t go through her friends posts and share any photos they’ve posted, why do it to Ashley and her daughter? It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it. Oh i completely understand stand that, and it does happen in other fandoms as well. I guess it just depends on which artists you follow as to whether you see it, Taylor Swift fans are similar for example. However, Evan’s instagram is private and his posts got leaked, same with their facebook posts and kim’s facebook and tiktoks have been posted, as well as Parker and Patrick’s posts. So being private doesn’t exactly stop anything, it just makes people more determined to find things. Again my issue is with the way these fan pages criticise other fans for being stalkers, whilst doing even worse. To use an instagram page dedicated to a celebrity’s child in order to gain likes and attention, and then to spend a large portion of their time bullying them, it’s absolutely ridiculous. What shady crazy girl does is harmless in comparison, and yet she receives constant mockery. But i do agree with you
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Post by ej18 on Jun 10, 2024 18:30:32 GMT -5
It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it. I think it was Alaina who blocked the one fan page not too long ago. I always felt there could be someone in their friend group giving pictures to some of these fan pages or maybe someone in their circle runs one of them. If they truly don’t want their stuff out there they would have to go private and really keep tight control of who can access their stuff. It cracks me up When they do Q&A about the family. the Q&A’s are the worst! because if they do have a source and someone in their circle is telling them private matters, for a fan page to publish that is horrible. I remember not long ago they were sharing that Marshall and Stevie don’t get along because he doesn’t understand their sexuality. To post that, regardless of its validity it’s horrible! if Stevie wanted that information public they could do it, same with talking about Kim’s attempts, or sharing the photos of kim after Parker hurt her, and not to mention the photos of her self harming? that’s private family matters regardless of where they posted it. to share posted and statements made on private accounts to make a fan page look more credible is vile
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Post by lizzie on Jun 10, 2024 18:53:54 GMT -5
This woman also thinks she's married to him: http://instagram.com/p/C8B1tA7O6Qo It's very sad to me. It's one thing to write fan fiction where your stretching your creative skills and trying out a different genre. But it seems like from the posts these women make, they truly believe they are married to him.
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Post by traci on Jun 10, 2024 19:00:55 GMT -5
I think it was Alaina who blocked the one fan page not too long ago. I always felt there could be someone in their friend group giving pictures to some of these fan pages or maybe someone in their circle runs one of them. If they truly don’t want their stuff out there they would have to go private and really keep tight control of who can access their stuff. It cracks me up When they do Q&A about the family. the Q&A’s are the worst! because if they do have a source and someone in their circle is telling them private matters, for a fan page to publish that is horrible. I remember not long ago they were sharing that Marshall and Stevie don’t get along because he doesn’t understand their sexuality. To post that, regardless of its validity it’s horrible! if Stevie wanted that information public they could do it, same with talking about Kim’s attempts, or sharing the photos of kim after Parker hurt her, and not to mention the photos of her self harming? that’s private family matters regardless of where they posted it. to share posted and statements made on private accounts to make a fan page look more credible is vile That is the one thing that shocks me about them having so many friends that things do not get leaked more because not everybody's a good person. You know at least one friend is shady (no pun intended). This is going to sound ruder than intended, so please do not take offense because it was not meant that way, but if it bothers you , you also don’t have to look at those pages. I never even knew half of these pages existed until today because I don’t follow anyone else really.
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Post by ej18 on Jun 10, 2024 19:18:55 GMT -5
the Q&A’s are the worst! because if they do have a source and someone in their circle is telling them private matters, for a fan page to publish that is horrible. I remember not long ago they were sharing that Marshall and Stevie don’t get along because he doesn’t understand their sexuality. To post that, regardless of its validity it’s horrible! if Stevie wanted that information public they could do it, same with talking about Kim’s attempts, or sharing the photos of kim after Parker hurt her, and not to mention the photos of her self harming? that’s private family matters regardless of where they posted it. to share posted and statements made on private accounts to make a fan page look more credible is vile That is the one thing that shocks me about them having so many friends that things do not get leaked more because not everybody's a good person. You know at least one friend is shady (no pun intended). This is going to sound ruder than intended, so please do not take offense because it was not meant that way, but if it bothers you , you also don’t have to look at those pages. I never even knew half of these pages existed until today because I don’t follow anyone else really. hahah, in no way offended. None of those pages have been actively sort after, they just randomly came to my attention through twitter or accounts i do follow. While i understand social media has completely changed the way people consume content as well as celebrities, i just find it frustrating the way we have shifted from artists selling a product to becoming the product. I don’t think Eminem selling music or merch, or spaghetti, means that his family need to be harassed the way some pages have normalised. And especially considering he changed the content of his music after realising how it was affecting his family, for fan pages to make his family their sole content is strange. But i do agree that considering how many friends his brother and children have, there isn’t that many leaks, so they are clearly pretty good at choosing friends, or who they share private information with. I think Eminem having his body guard, family friends and family members writing books about him and selling stories about his family must have changed the way they all interact with people outside of the family unit, especially after he got sober, everything seems to be locked down now. I mean he had a whole birthday party for his 50th and people only found out because hailie mentioned it. They either have great friends or incredible NDAs hahah
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Post by ej18 on Jun 10, 2024 19:21:51 GMT -5
This woman also thinks she's married to him: http://instagram.com/p/C8B1tA7O6Qo It's very sad to me. It's one thing to write fan fiction where your stretching your creative skills and trying out a different genre. But it seems like from the posts these women make, they truly believe they are married to him. I’m pretty sure that’s the woman who was sending inappropriate pictures to the fan page. And based on her interactions, she seems to believe every eminem fanpage is actually eminem. I recall her comment section on one post had a fake eminem account asking her why she wasn’t responding to his messages anymore. So it seems scammers have noticed and are taking advantage
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Post by newbie on Jun 10, 2024 19:28:09 GMT -5
I see this but it makes me sad in a sense... can't help but think about mental illness.
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Post by missy84 on Jun 10, 2024 19:43:16 GMT -5
the Q&A’s are the worst! because if they do have a source and someone in their circle is telling them private matters, for a fan page to publish that is horrible. I remember not long ago they were sharing that Marshall and Stevie don’t get along because he doesn’t understand their sexuality. To post that, regardless of its validity it’s horrible! if Stevie wanted that information public they could do it, same with talking about Kim’s attempts, or sharing the photos of kim after Parker hurt her, and not to mention the photos of her self harming? that’s private family matters regardless of where they posted it. to share posted and statements made on private accounts to make a fan page look more credible is vile That is the one thing that shocks me about them having so many friends that things do not get leaked more because not everybody's a good person. You know at least one friend is shady (no pun intended). This is going to sound ruder than intended, so please do not take offense because it was not meant that way, but if it bothers you , you also don’t have to look at those pages. I never even knew half of these pages existed until today because I don’t follow anyone else really. These random accounts just show up on my page on instagram. I’m sure it is there algorithm. Even when I look at his verified page the next time I login a bunch of fan pages show up. I am guilty of looking at the pics 😬
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Post by alphagirl01 on Jun 10, 2024 21:37:45 GMT -5
It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it. Oh i completely understand stand that, and it does happen in other fandoms as well. I guess it just depends on which artists you follow as to whether you see it, Taylor Swift fans are similar for example. However, Evan’s instagram is private and his posts got leaked, same with their facebook posts and kim’s facebook and tiktoks have been posted, as well as Parker and Patrick’s posts. So being private doesn’t exactly stop anything, it just makes people more determined to find things. Again my issue is with the way these fan pages criticise other fans for being stalkers, whilst doing even worse. To use an instagram page dedicated to a celebrity’s child in order to gain likes and attention, and then to spend a large portion of their time bullying them, it’s absolutely ridiculous. What shady crazy girl does is harmless in comparison, and yet she receives constant mockery. But i do agree with you I get what you are saying about the fan pages, BUT if that is your concern, the problem is bigger than these fan pages. They are not the first to do this it is actually big media like TMZ, Enquirer, People, In Touch, OK magainze. the huge trash media publications that started this paparazzi culture. Those are the ones that need to be complained about. These fan pages, as lame as they are, are likely run by 12-20-year-olds. What about the corporations making billions off of stalking celebrities and even their children? Actors such as Haile Berry and Jennifer Garner have went to capitol hill to fight it. That is why I feel like if Ashley and Nate were really that annoyed, they'd take legal steps. There are definitely laws about sharing images of minors on the net. But, I get what you are saying, I just think your energy could be spent on bigger fish.
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Post by ej18 on Jun 10, 2024 23:44:19 GMT -5
Oh i completely understand stand that, and it does happen in other fandoms as well. I guess it just depends on which artists you follow as to whether you see it, Taylor Swift fans are similar for example. However, Evan’s instagram is private and his posts got leaked, same with their facebook posts and kim’s facebook and tiktoks have been posted, as well as Parker and Patrick’s posts. So being private doesn’t exactly stop anything, it just makes people more determined to find things. Again my issue is with the way these fan pages criticise other fans for being stalkers, whilst doing even worse. To use an instagram page dedicated to a celebrity’s child in order to gain likes and attention, and then to spend a large portion of their time bullying them, it’s absolutely ridiculous. What shady crazy girl does is harmless in comparison, and yet she receives constant mockery. But i do agree with you I get what you are saying about the fan pages, BUT if that is your concern, the problem is bigger than these fan pages. They are not the first to do this it is actually big media like TMZ, Enquirer, People, In Touch, OK magainze. the huge trash media publications that started this paparazzi culture. Those are the ones that need to be complained about. These fan pages, as lame as they are, are likely run by 12-20-year-olds. What about the corporations making billions off of stalking celebrities and even their children? Actors such as Haile Berry and Jennifer Garner have went to capitol hill to fight it. That is why I feel like if Ashley and Nate were really that annoyed, they'd take legal steps. There are definitely laws about sharing images of minors on the net. But, I get what you are saying, I just think your energy could be spent on bigger fish. again, my point is regarding the concern for that one particular account, when there are plenty more doing far worse. She has an instagram dedicated to her fantasy of him, meanwhile fan pages for his children literally bully them. There are actual accounts causing harm, that have been noticed by the family, that are subject to less scrutiny than this girls account. Two years ago she wrote about a singer, today she writes about eminem, in a couple years time she’ll write about someone else. The other fan pages however are giving out private information and photos. Leaking Hailies Wedding date, the day before potentially causing a security risk and creating fake hailie accounts to trick distant family members in to sharing private photos, is considerably worse than pretending eminem is her husband. Yet because they provided an unseen photo, they developed a superiority complex and bullied a girl who could very well struggle with her mental health, sending their followers to her page to humiliate her. That’s my issue.
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Post by me on Jun 11, 2024 1:23:02 GMT -5
It's called supply and demand. They know that Stans are so thirsty for content, they post anyone connected to him and I think more so because Hailie and Alaina have slowed up on sharing content. I get what you are saying, but notice this does not happen to other celebrity's relatives? Name one other celebrity whose extended family is stalked. I think Nate and his wife know exactly what they are doing. If they really wanted themselves and their children off the grid, they would be. Marshall is world famous and you barely get images of him, so we really wouldn't see any of Ashley and her kids, if she did not want it. Oh i completely understand stand that, and it does happen in other fandoms as well. I guess it just depends on which artists you follow as to whether you see it, Taylor Swift fans are similar for example. However, Evan’s instagram is private and his posts got leaked, same with their facebook posts and kim’s facebook and tiktoks have been posted, as well as Parker and Patrick’s posts. So being private doesn’t exactly stop anything, it just makes people more determined to find things. Again my issue is with the way these fan pages criticise other fans for being stalkers, whilst doing even worse. To use an instagram page dedicated to a celebrity’s child in order to gain likes and attention, and then to spend a large portion of their time bullying them, it’s absolutely ridiculous. What shady crazy girl does is harmless in comparison, and yet she receives constant mockery. But i do agree with you I think one reason the girls’ accounts are public is also that there were a lot of people faking them, and posting a leaked picture from a private account that not many have seen, gives more credibility to the fake. If the girls’ accounts are public it’s clear what they post it’s harder to fake them - although there are still many faking them
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Post by ej18 on Jun 11, 2024 1:34:25 GMT -5
Oh i completely understand stand that, and it does happen in other fandoms as well. I guess it just depends on which artists you follow as to whether you see it, Taylor Swift fans are similar for example. However, Evan’s instagram is private and his posts got leaked, same with their facebook posts and kim’s facebook and tiktoks have been posted, as well as Parker and Patrick’s posts. So being private doesn’t exactly stop anything, it just makes people more determined to find things. Again my issue is with the way these fan pages criticise other fans for being stalkers, whilst doing even worse. To use an instagram page dedicated to a celebrity’s child in order to gain likes and attention, and then to spend a large portion of their time bullying them, it’s absolutely ridiculous. What shady crazy girl does is harmless in comparison, and yet she receives constant mockery. But i do agree with you I think one reason the girls’ accounts are public is also that there were a lot of people faking them, and posting a leaked picture from a private account that not many have seen, gives more credibility to the fake. If the girls’ accounts are public it’s clear what they post it’s harder to fake them - although there are still many faking them 100% and that goes for all his family. I don’t find that any of them particularly post much anyway. I think a lot of the dislike that forms for his family is based around the fact they keep him private. They have photos, videos and stories they chose not to share with fans and i think that annoys people. So instead of respecting the fact they clearly keep that particular relationship private, they leak photos. Hating on hailie because she doesn’t share photos with her dad, or share more stories about him on her podcast, but then when she does they claim she’s using him for popularity. I don’t think his kids can really win with his fan base, or at least that particular pocket of it. But i agree, i think a lot of the fan pages that are judging hailie for giving pictures with Eminem to TMZ are most likely more annoyed that they didn’t get to be the first to leak them.
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Post by space on Jun 11, 2024 4:24:39 GMT -5
Eminem is mega star and it is to be expected that the pages of everyone connected to him, especially his family, will be shared. Ashley and her grown-up daughter are not the smartest in the world (and neither is the rest of her family, proved ), she put fake Marshall pictures and her successor always likes to take a picture with him and some of her friends, acquaintances if she gets a chance. She and her stupid mother are a dumb dumber combination. Kim, who is still in an indirect dependent financial relationship with him to this day (unfortunately for him) and many people know that, she will arouse curiosity too, if you put your child on it, it means that you want him/her to be seen, is it logical. Hailie imposes her images consciously with her outfit, I remember that from London (she was terribly dressed as always, she looked like a market inspector). She is somewhat skilled at decorating the house, and she should stick to that. I don't share their pictures, nor do I look closely at them, and you shouldn't judge anyone if they do that, and it's even more stupid to wonder around such people. It is a public "photo album which allows commenting and sharing", and now you will expect only positive comments or none at all, unrealistic expectation. Some people who put pictures on instagram all have similar feature of distorting reality in most cases i.e. pictures.
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