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Post by stefanie on Jun 2, 2020 7:56:19 GMT -5
The flight logs are fake.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 2, 2020 7:57:28 GMT -5
Didn't mean to double post.
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Post by blackgoddess on Jun 2, 2020 8:34:57 GMT -5
The flight logs are fake. Was just about to ask if they are even legit
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Post by brianna on Jun 2, 2020 15:45:45 GMT -5
White people having privilege doesn’t mean they can’t also be underprivileged because of poverty — that’s what intersectionality is all about. If you’re still a Trump supporter, maybe the time has come to stop being an Eminem fan? I understand that it’s a whiplash to see Em take a soap box position on Revival, and he didn’t do it well — but sentiment wise, he’s always stood for racial equality, against classism, and against authoritarianism. And racial injustice — particularly in the criminal justice system — has been an abomination and huge problem for years. I have resources if you need to educate yourself, I understand that many people don’t have the time to read all the facts up on that (because again -/ you can have white privilege but be poor, and thus be underprivileged that way) but it is time to educate yourself on these things if you haven’t yet. If you’re uncomfortable about the musicians and actors you like speaking out against inequality, imagine how uncomfortable it is to have a knee on your neck until you can no longer breathe. I hope I didn’t say anything to trigger any part of what you just wrote. All my family is black bar 3 of us(out of around 28) so I’m extremely distraught and have been doing what I can to help understand more and help others understand more. I’m not a Trump supporter either, I live in Britain and am trying to get my head around why people would support him. No, not you
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Post by GG102 on Jun 2, 2020 18:03:38 GMT -5
Jeffrey Epstein's plane was rented out to a hell of a lot of people. Mega rich people rent out their planes all the time because it costs a fortune to maintain them when they are not in use. I don't think the log is fake, but rather those are some of the people who leased it without even knowing who owned it. I saw the Netflix series and was very disappointed because it skirted over a lot of psychological issues. Not only those of the women interviewed but of Epstein. I wanted it to be more compelling. And, let's not forget...Most people didn't even know whom Jeffrey Epstein was til his shit hit the fan...
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Post by shimy on Jun 2, 2020 20:22:04 GMT -5
If Em knew what Epstein was about and had his ass on that island he would have been ratted out years ago by money hungry relatives/friends and ex workers. Plus I’m sure Kim would’ve killed him if she even heard a peep of him doing something like that especially with them having daughters. But I do not doubt at some point he possibly slept with an underage girl not knowing how old she really was and him always being high or drunk. I do hope that he made sure whoever he messed with on the road was of age...
I’m sure like GG said Epstein was renting out his plane to tons of celebs. A lot of the people on that list (like Beyoncé, Em, Jay Z) weren’t in his contacts that was released which were the main people who knew what was up with him.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 2, 2020 23:52:39 GMT -5
Jeffrey Epstein's plane was rented out to a hell of a lot of people. Mega rich people rent out their planes all the time because it costs a fortune to maintain them when they are not in use. I don't think the log is fake, but rather those are some of the people who leased it without even knowing who owned it. I saw the Netflix series and was very disappointed because it skirted over a lot of psychological issues. Not only those of the women interviewed but of Epstein. I wanted it to be more compelling. And, let's not forget...Most people didn't even know whom Jeffrey Epstein was til his shit hit the fan... As far as I know the flight logs are about trips to Eppsteins Island and not using his jet. I read they are fake and they the real ones are withhold but the court. So if these logs published were real (what they are not from what I read), I think it would mean he would have went to the Island and not just rented a jet.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 2, 2020 23:55:49 GMT -5
If Em knew what Epstein was about and had his ass on that island he would have been ratted out years ago by money hungry relatives/friends and ex workers. Plus I’m sure Kim would’ve killed him if she even heard a peep of him doing something like that especially with them having daughters. But I do not doubt at some point he possibly slept with an underage girl not knowing how old she really was and him always being high or drunk. I do hope that he made sure whoever he messed with on the road was of age... I’m sure like GG said Epstein was renting out his plane to tons of celebs. A lot of the people on that list (like Beyoncé, Em, Jay Z) weren’t in his contacts that was released which were the main people who knew what was up with him. I know there is the story about Em and this underages swedish girl from the beginning of his career. He had her age checked put she showed a fake ID and his bodyguard didn't notice. It all came to light when he wanted to take her on Tour and her mom went nuts. There is a Video of Eminem on stage asking grils who were on stage with him about their age to make sure they aren't under 18. So Eminem (even drunk and on drugs) did care about the girls not being under ages but what tricked at least once with a fake ID. His bodyguard did check, so it was Em's fault actually.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 3, 2020 2:34:02 GMT -5
I know there is the story about Em and this underages swedish girl from the beginning of his career. He had her age checked put she showed a fake ID and his bodyguard didn't notice. It all came to light when he wanted to take her on Tour and her mom went nuts. There is a Video of Eminem on stage asking grils who were on stage with him about their age to make sure they aren't under 18. So Eminem (even drunk and on drugs) did care about the girls not being under ages but what tricked at least once with a fake ID. His bodyguard did check, so it was Em's fault actually. I was literally about to mention the girls he kicked off stage cause they couldn’t prove they were of age 😂 And with the Swedish girl, I feel like if that were true and it’s that accessible to find that info via a book, then it would have ended up in the press somehow and they would have had a field day with it cause honestly sleeping with an underage girl is pretty disgusting. Look what happened with Akon and he had no idea she was underage as she was let into an over 21 club. I Just don’t see him doing something like that As far as I remember the press did report about it back then. They didn't make a big deal as it was clear she faked the ID and it wasn't his fault. It wasn't all over national TV but some Eminem article definitely mentioned it. Many of the old articles aren't available anymore. Either the Websites just don't exist anymore or Paul had some old stuff (especially pics) wipped off the Internet.
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Post by GG102 on Jun 3, 2020 7:51:20 GMT -5
The whole scenario with EM and the underage Swedish girl is in Byron William's, EMs ex-bodyguard, book. Shady Bizzness: " Life as Eminem's Bodyguard in an Industry of Paper Gangsters." Seems EM was so high on Ecstasy, and God knows what else, that he was oblivious to her age and she did have fake ID. C'est la vie! EM won't be the first, nor the last, high profile celeb that has had sex with a minor.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 3, 2020 7:58:22 GMT -5
The whole scenario with EM and the underage Swedish girl is in Byron William's, EMs ex-bodyguard, book. Shady Bizzness: " Life as Eminem's Bodyguard in an Industry of Paper Gangsters." Seems EM was so high on Ecstasy, and God knows what else, that he was oblivious to her age and she did have fake ID. C'est la vie! EM won't be the first, nor the last, high profile celeb that has had sex with a minor. He had his bodyguards check IDs. The bodyguard who checked failed to notice that it was a fake ID. Yes, it's not right but Em thought she was 18 or older. It has nothing to do with him taking drugs. She just didn't look that young and had a fake ID.
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Post by GG102 on Jun 3, 2020 13:59:39 GMT -5
It had everything to do with drugs. EM was more than not whacked out of his mind back then. When you're out of it there are a lot of things you don't notice or don't care to notice. And, since none of us were there, what I say and what you say is all speculation.
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Post by original on Jun 3, 2020 16:51:27 GMT -5
I think Em was lucky that his career wasn’t ruined for that huge mistake. 😰 Tekashi 69 ruined his career for doing the same wrong thing, but he was released from charges cause he was 17-18 when that happened; while Em was 26 and the Swedish girl was 15. 😭Plus Em was married and had a kid at home.💔.
I’m sure Em regrets for that big mistake and this is why he has forgiven Kim so many times cause Em knows that he hasn’t been a saint either.
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Post by stefanie on Jun 3, 2020 23:26:03 GMT -5
It had everything to do with drugs. EM was more than not whacked out of his mind back then. When you're out of it there are a lot of things you don't notice or don't care to notice. And, since none of us were there, what I say and what you say is all speculation. No, it wasn't about drugs but the lifestyle. He did asked girls on stage about their age when he was under the influence. He told his bodyguards to check IDs. It wasn't the drugs who gave the girl a fake ID and told her to lie,s he did it herself. And as it wasn't Em who was checking the ID but his bodyguard, that also wasn't the drugs.
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Post by original on Jun 3, 2020 23:51:49 GMT -5
I feel sick to my stomach to think that Em did that. 🤮I actually have a good concept of Em.😰😰💔 What if this bodyguard lied for money? Where is the Swedish girl? Where is her mom’s accusation? Paul came on Em’s defense and this is what he said.😰(He admitted that this teenager was hanging around though).💔😐 “This book is as sleazy as it gets. This guy is just out to get Eminem.” The rapper’s manager says he knows nothing of the singer’s alleged mistresses but is quick to add that “absolutely nothing” happened with the Swedish girl who was just hanging around. He says the teen’s mom “let everyone know” she was underage. As far as abusing drugs and booze, Rosenberg says the rapper is an admitted “recreational” user and that there would be no way he could tour for months and abuse his body with six hits of ecstasy daily. “This guy wanted $1 million to not put out the book,” Rosenberg says. “We’re pretty sad about the whole thing. He used to be a comrade we trusted and now he’s used our confidences against us. “He’s never made more money doing anything else. We just wish the guy would move on and leave us alone.” nypost.com/2000/08/23/bio-says-eminem-uses-ecstasy-like-candy-ex-bodyguards-says-sex-and-drugs-fuel-bad-boy-rappers-life/😰😰💔
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