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Post by brianna on May 7, 2020 20:19:52 GMT -5
Hey guys, I've been meaning to ask - does Eminem write 100% of his own lyrics? I was under the impression he did as they tend to be very personal - however it seems most of his songs are more than often written by 2-3 or more individuals and at times he's listed at the very end of those involved with the lyrics. . . I've only found a handful of songs written 100% by him which include: "Lose Yourself", "The Way I Am", "Kim" etc. . . On the other end most of his material going all the way back to his first hit "My Name Is" is a collaborative effort (often with Luis Resto (1999-2006) + many others since. . . Examples from this recent album: Godzilla: Eminem, Juice WRLD, Luis Resto, d.a. got that dope & Alex Villasana Marsh: Eminem & Luis Resto. . . Never Love Again: Dwayne Allen Abernathy, Eminem, Dr. Dre, Luis Resto, Trevor Lawrence Jr. & Dawaun Parker Unaccommodating: Luis Resto, Tim Suby, Young M.A & Eminem In Too Deep: Sly Jordan, O. Chanin, Eminem, Tim Suby & Luis Resto Farewell: Serani, Dave Kelly, Ricky Harrell, Eminem & Luis Resto (I understand that in the case of "Farewell" for example he sampled Serani's "No Games" and that single was written by: Dave Kelly, Serani but it took 3 additional people to write "Farewell" including Eminem? I do not know a lot about the music industry as my career is in the arts - as an illustrator we do everything ourselves (from concept/sketch to the final product) He does all the lyrics — he gives credit to the producers who do the music and instrumentation. Lots of ppl list the producers along with the song writers
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Post by olliec on May 8, 2020 3:28:28 GMT -5
Thank you brianna for clearing it up for me (I wasn't aware, but it makes sense). My thoughts on a few things (got some free time today): There's an obvious disconnection between the individual that initially broke into the scene (Eminem: 1999-2005) and (Eminem 2009-2020) - I've heard everything from the obvious to his management controlling almost all aspects of his life, to him being a clone and even gay etc. . . I personally believe that he's a lot more in control of his career/image than most realize (I never got the BOSS vibe from him like I do from someone like Madonna) but Eminem is a Libra (never in your face/low-key controlling). Eminem is a true artist and like most artists he isn't driven by money but by the respect of his peers/fans; looking back at the early stages of his career in my opinion he was a lot less in control then of his image in comparison to now. In 2005 he was 33 years old - at the time no one in his genre had managed to have career longevity in the same manner as someone like Michael Jackson, Madonna without having to branch off into a side business. I personally feel his destructive behaviour was set in motion when he realized his career had come to a halt (he couldn't deny his age/fame/wealth); it almost seemed hypocritical of him to continue as he could no longer speak the words of an underground mc and the idea of stepping away must have been agonizing for him! He has mentioned he went to rehab the 1st time to appease everyone, and likely believed to an extent he still had everything under "control" - realizing he didn't in combination with everything else he was fighting internally must have pushed him over the edge! I do believe that it was his near death experience that brought to light whatever truth he was seeking within himself! I feel once he came out of rehab he realized that he had basically sold his "soul/family" to the game (100% certain he regrets doing so) but took his hiatus as an opportunity to re-introduce himself to his audience. The vibe/attitude I've gotten from him post-rehab is that of an individual who recognizes the rules of the game and instead of walking away he chooses to play but under his own terms! He built he's career off of the themes introduced in MMLP (and while at times he has tried to steer away from these subjects, in my opinion he has failed to connect with his audience) - since 2009 he has re-visited these themes/subjects except now his lyrics have become almost impossible to decipher as more than often you cannot figure out where reality/fiction meet + double/triple entendres that create puzzle after puzzle! This is obviously a decision he took so that there is a boundary between his art and his family! In regards to his personal life (my opinion): He had reiterated over and over that after rehab he re-kindled old relationships and that everyone in his circle consists of people he has always known - I believe he's telling the truth. . . I got a lot of flack for suggesting he may have a son but why is it so preposterous? (certain storylines over the past decade do not add up) I remember in the mids of his divorce his ex-wife did a few interviews in which she stated two things that always stood out to me: - she had hoped to have a normal family where both partners had a 9/5 job (several sources have mentioned that these days Eminem treats his career as a 9/5 job) - that others in the industry were married/had families and that no one knew to who/or their names (implying she had wished Eminem took the same route when it came to their family) (post-rehab onwards was an opportunity for him/his management to re-construct his career - strictly business (his decision 100% certain of it) I do not believe he's a hermit, but is in it for the art and to others in the industry that may come across as detached/a workaholic. . . I believe he struggled over the past decade to find the momentum/respect that MTBMB has brought and it's obvious that he's in better place because if it! It's admirable how humble he and his family (daughters + ex-wife) are when it comes to their fashion choices/lifestyles, but damn live it up a bit!! Life is too short to constantly be concerned with what others think of you and I feel one of the things that has changed between (Eminem 1999-2005) and (Eminem 2009-2020) is that now that he is sober and he's overcritical of every move he makes and every opinion! No one can deny that he's a lyrical genius (he's paid his dues) no need to prove anything to anyone/or even himself at this point! I wish he would loosen up a bit and enjoy his fame - he's social media presence is way too manicured (it would be a great place or him to celebrate his work/sense of humour while maintaining his privacy) I know most of you would disagree but I feel he's now in a place where he can walk away with dignity (at the top/knowing when to walk away is the most difficult decisions for a celebrity) - as he is almost 50 years old. . . I'd love for his career to take a turn similar to that of Leonard Cohen - have his new material/lyrics published as a book (short stories/poems) - in this format he can potentially do what he loves best till the end!
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Post by me on May 8, 2020 6:58:59 GMT -5
olliec he often uses songs made by producers who have added a hook or bridge or something, so that’s why they might be there as songwriters. E.g. Louis Resto has tons of “original songs” that later ended up as a chorus on Em’s songs. But Em writes all his raps himself.
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Post by olliec on May 8, 2020 15:54:44 GMT -5
Deleted what's with the sarcasm/sassiness on this board lol - damn! I'm not about to read through 100's of pages worth of opinions - I'm not begging anyone to read my thoughts, it's not that serious. . .
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Post by original on May 9, 2020 22:46:31 GMT -5
Dr. Dre’s daughter posted this throwback picture and a woman was kissing Em’s cheek. In this article they say she is a fan, but she looks like an actress to me. She looks so much like Jessica Biel.( But of course she is not)😱Do you think that lady was a fan or a secret gf that we never met?
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Post by shimy on May 10, 2020 21:56:18 GMT -5
Dr. Dre’s daughter posted this throwback picture and a woman was kissing Em’s cheek. In this article they say she is a fan, but she looks like an actress to me. She looks so much like Jessica Biel.( But of course she is not)😱Do you think that lady was a fan or a secret gf that we never met? I doubt it was a secret gf. If anything it was a secret lover he had or just a woman who decided to go ahead and lean in and and kiss Eminem because she had a chance.
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Post by original on May 28, 2020 1:15:12 GMT -5
I’m feeling a little sad, cause the live chat was a let down for me and why he forgot about the anniversary of The Eminem show? his best album in my opinion! 😤😤😤😤😂
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Post by original on May 28, 2020 1:56:56 GMT -5
I’m feeling a little sad, cause the live chat was a let down for me and why he forgot about the anniversary of The Eminem show? his best album in my opinion! 😤😤😤😤😂 Yeah, definitely wasn’t “for the Stans”. I get he’s not gonna answer other types of questions but he could have at least put a bit of imagination into it and been a bit more funny/punny. And I refuse to believe Em doesn’t know how to write an ellipses properly 😂😂 People literally waited in an online waiting room for hours for that! Exactly! 😂😂😰he even got offended cause someone told him that Paul was with him; probably he wasn’t serious, but calling the fan stupid, it feels like he acted like the real slim shady not Marshall. I don’t know if this is his real personality or it’s an act? but I truly miss the maturity he showed up in the Recovery era. He never talked personal stuff either, but he wasn’t a man of few words either. 👏🏻 His personality and interviews in the Recovery era were definitely my favorites!🌸👏🏻👌
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Post by stefanie on May 28, 2020 2:12:59 GMT -5
Yeah, definitely wasn’t “for the Stans”. I get he’s not gonna answer other types of questions but he could have at least put a bit of imagination into it and been a bit more funny/punny. And I refuse to believe Em doesn’t know how to write an ellipses properly 😂😂 People literally waited in an online waiting room for hours for that! Exactly! 😂😂😰he even got offended cause someone told him that Paul was with him; probably he wasn’t serious, but calling the fan stupid, it feels like he acted like the real slim shady not Marshall. I don’t know if this is his real personality or it’s an act? but I truly miss the maturity he showed up in the Recovery era. He never talked personal stuff either, but he wasn’t a man of few words either. 👏🏻 His personality and interviews in the Recovery era were definitely my favorites!🌸👏🏻👌 He wasn't serious at all. That's the way he talks and how he makes a joke. I am surprised if any real Eminem fan was offended. He said way worse things before.
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Post by original on May 28, 2020 2:32:58 GMT -5
Exactly! 😂😂😰he even got offended cause someone told him that Paul was with him; probably he wasn’t serious, but calling the fan stupid, it feels like he acted like the real slim shady not Marshall. I don’t know if this is his real personality or it’s an act? but I truly miss the maturity he showed up in the Recovery era. He never talked personal stuff either, but he wasn’t a man of few words either. 👏🏻 His personality and interviews in the Recovery era were definitely my favorites!🌸👏🏻👌 He wasn't serious at all. That's the way he talks and how he makes a joke. I am surprised if any real Eminem fan was offended. He said way worse things before. Well, he said that Michael Jordan stopped talking to him cause a joke he made, so definitely there are people who don’t find funny his sarcasm. What is missing in these new interviews is personality. I believe that in the Recovery’s era he was himself, he was not trying so hard to be Shady and this is why I’m missing to see his real charming personality, but it’s understandable cause he wants to separate his private life from his public one.
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Post by stefanie on May 28, 2020 2:53:34 GMT -5
He wasn't serious at all. That's the way he talks and how he makes a joke. I am surprised if any real Eminem fan was offended. He said way worse things before. Well, he said that Michael Jordan stopped talking to him cause a joke he made, so definitely there are people who don’t find funny his sarcasm. What is missing in these new interviews is personality. I believe that in the Recovery’s era he was himself, he was not trying so hard to be Shady and this is why I’m missing to see his real charming personality, but it’s understandable cause he wants to separate his private life from his public one. I think it's different if you are a fan and know all his lyrics by heart of if you are someone who happens to know him but not even that close. Like the D12 guys, 50 or Dre sure know his sense of humor but Michael Jordan sure wasn't a close friend. Also don't remember when he said Michael stopped talking to him. With Recovery he made a big comeback and he wanted to show people how he changed for the better, so he had to open up. In the meantime he even said he doesn't get the talk about old or new Eminem cause he is still the same. There is so much truth to that. Yes, he stopped doing drugs but deep down inside he is still the same guy. Some of his past actions happend cause he was under the influence but if you are the person to do so, you also dont do it on drugs.
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Post by me on May 28, 2020 5:38:42 GMT -5
Well, he said that Michael Jordan stopped talking to him cause a joke he made, so definitely there are people who don’t find funny his sarcasm. What is missing in these new interviews is personality. I believe that in the Recovery’s era he was himself, he was not trying so hard to be Shady and this is why I’m missing to see his real charming personality, but it’s understandable cause he wants to separate his private life from his public one. I think it's different if you are a fan and know all his lyrics by heart of if you are someone who happens to know him but not even that close. Like the D12 guys, 50 or Dre sure know his sense of humor but Michael Jordan sure wasn't a close friend. Also don't remember when he said Michael stopped talking to him. With Recovery he made a big comeback and he wanted to show people how he changed for the better, so he had to open up. In the meantime he even said he doesn't get the talk about old or new Eminem cause he is still the same. There is so much truth to that. Yes, he stopped doing drugs but deep down inside he is still the same guy. Some of his past actions happend cause he was under the influence but if you are the person to do so, you also dont do it on drugs. He said Michael Jordan didn't find his joke funny, Paul commented after that that they still continued to collaborate after that so even if MJ (no not jackson 🤪) didn’t find his joke funny (or didn’t understand it) he wasn’t offended, but still wanted to work with him. So no, didn’t either hear he stopped talking to Em, don’t think that’s true. And agree, I think this goofy, insulting side is his true personality. He’s said that himself - if you’re easily offended he’s not for you, lol! During recovery he also had his insult jokes, just look at the BTS videos. Recovery was also the absolutely NO SMILE era, so I think he seems more comfortable now, smiling in public, joking and laughing in interviews...
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Post by stefanie on May 28, 2020 7:23:31 GMT -5
I think it's different if you are a fan and know all his lyrics by heart of if you are someone who happens to know him but not even that close. Like the D12 guys, 50 or Dre sure know his sense of humor but Michael Jordan sure wasn't a close friend. Also don't remember when he said Michael stopped talking to him. With Recovery he made a big comeback and he wanted to show people how he changed for the better, so he had to open up. In the meantime he even said he doesn't get the talk about old or new Eminem cause he is still the same. There is so much truth to that. Yes, he stopped doing drugs but deep down inside he is still the same guy. Some of his past actions happend cause he was under the influence but if you are the person to do so, you also dont do it on drugs. He said Michael Jordan didn't find his joke funny, Paul commented after that that they still continued to collaborate after that so even if MJ (no not jackson 🤪) didn’t find his joke funny (or didn’t understand it) he wasn’t offended, but still wanted to work with him. So no, didn’t either hear he stopped talking to Em, don’t think that’s true. And agree, I think this goofy, insulting side is his true personality. He’s said that himself - if you’re easily offended he’s not for you, lol! During recovery he also had his insult jokes, just look at the BTS videos. Recovery was also the absolutely NO SMILE era, so I think he seems more comfortable now, smiling in public, joking and laughing in interviews... That's what I remembered and thought I had missed an "update" or something. Recovery also was a phase of finding himself again. I mean he was on drugs so many years and probably didn't even know his true personality anymore, if that makes sense.
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Post by me on May 28, 2020 8:56:13 GMT -5
He said Michael Jordan didn't find his joke funny, Paul commented after that that they still continued to collaborate after that so even if MJ (no not jackson 🤪) didn’t find his joke funny (or didn’t understand it) he wasn’t offended, but still wanted to work with him. So no, didn’t either hear he stopped talking to Em, don’t think that’s true. And agree, I think this goofy, insulting side is his true personality. He’s said that himself - if you’re easily offended he’s not for you, lol! During recovery he also had his insult jokes, just look at the BTS videos. Recovery was also the absolutely NO SMILE era, so I think he seems more comfortable now, smiling in public, joking and laughing in interviews... That's what I remembered and thought I had missed an "update" or something. Recovery also was a phase of finding himself again. I mean he was on drugs so many years and probably didn't even know his true personality anymore, if that makes sense. Yeah true! And I think you can see during live shows still during the recovery era, he’s not 100% comfortable. Don’t know if comfortable is the correct word but he still seemed a bit unsure of what he was supposed to do on stage, and he looks a lot more comfortable up there nowadays
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Post by stefanie on May 28, 2020 9:57:50 GMT -5
That's what I remembered and thought I had missed an "update" or something. Recovery also was a phase of finding himself again. I mean he was on drugs so many years and probably didn't even know his true personality anymore, if that makes sense. Yeah true! And I think you can see during live shows still during the recovery era, he’s not 100% comfortable. Don’t know if comfortable is the correct word but he still seemed a bit unsure of what he was supposed to do on stage, and he looks a lot more comfortable up there nowadays I didnt see him live during that era but I did twice in recent years and he seemed to enjoy performing now again.
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