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Post by sparrow on Aug 8, 2022 19:24:08 GMT -5
[mention]alphagirl01 [/mention] exactly! She was playing his game but he didn’t like that sooo you want what you thought she would be or use to be. The most interesting part is she never had problems finding someone else. Like she had TWO outside babies. Sometimes I wonder if she ever loved him like he loved her, calling him rat boy and strange things like that. She was attractive in her young days so I wonder if she was one of those girls who dated a guy that she felt was not as cute as her and could treat however she wanted. I think we all know a girl like that. Guys do it too! Sad how when people are broken they can't settle with being shattered by themselves they have to break other people too. SMH I think she did. They just both came from such violent, abusive backgrounds that they didn't have any communication or coping skills at all. I'm not saying she never did bad things, because she did. But I don't buy the narrative of St. Eminem and Evil Kim, where she did all this horrible stuff and poor sweet Em just reacted. They were awful to each other but they also loved each other. It just didn't work out. And when it didn't Em still had a super fucked up perspective on relationships. I can't see him with a stereotypical "good girl"...he needs someone to challenge him, imo. Idk dude. Sometimes I think Em just wants to be a lone wolf. Lately I've been feeling a weird empathy toward him, not in a creepy way, just ever since I heard that damn story about how he got to ride his bike around the old neighborhood...and now with all the weird promo and lack thereof...I just feel like he needs a prolonged amount of time away from The Bubble so that he can reconnect with himself.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 8, 2022 19:32:57 GMT -5
The most interesting part is she never had problems finding someone else. Like she had TWO outside babies. Sometimes I wonder if she ever loved him like he loved her, calling him rat boy and strange things like that. She was attractive in her young days so I wonder if she was one of those girls who dated a guy that she felt was not as cute as her and could treat however she wanted. I think we all know a girl like that. Guys do it too! Sad how when people are broken they can't settle with being shattered by themselves they have to break other people too. SMH I think she did. They just both came from such violent, abusive backgrounds that they didn't have any communication or coping skills at all. I'm not saying she never did bad things, because she did. But I don't buy the narrative of St. Eminem and Evil Kim, where she did all this horrible stuff and poor sweet Em just reacted. They were awful to each other but they also loved each other. It just didn't work out. And when it didn't Em still had a super fucked up perspective on relationships. I can't see him with a stereotypical "good girl"...he needs someone to challenge him, imo. Idk dude. Sometimes I think Em just wants to be a lone wolf. Lately I've been feeling a weird empathy toward him, not in a creepy way, just ever since I heard that damn story about how he got to ride his bike around the old neighborhood...and now with all the weird promo and lack thereof...I just feel like he needs a prolonged amount of time away from The Bubble so that he can reconnect with himself. I do agree it takes two to tangle, and Eminem is definitely NO SAINT. But, I do find it interesting NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON had anything nice to say about her in that circle, even the bodyguard who didn't like Eminem and Rush who use to produce with him. Marshall broke his nose and he still only talked about how disturbed Kim was. Men and women complained about her. As the saying goes, there's a dead cat on that line somewhere. You would think someone had a nice word to say about her. Even his enemies didn't like her. SMH Seem like only people who publicly feel sorry for her are the people who didn't know her personally.
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Post by shimy on Aug 8, 2022 20:12:42 GMT -5
I think she did. They just both came from such violent, abusive backgrounds that they didn't have any communication or coping skills at all. I'm not saying she never did bad things, because she did. But I don't buy the narrative of St. Eminem and Evil Kim, where she did all this horrible stuff and poor sweet Em just reacted. They were awful to each other but they also loved each other. It just didn't work out. And when it didn't Em still had a super fucked up perspective on relationships. I can't see him with a stereotypical "good girl"...he needs someone to challenge him, imo. Idk dude. Sometimes I think Em just wants to be a lone wolf. Lately I've been feeling a weird empathy toward him, not in a creepy way, just ever since I heard that damn story about how he got to ride his bike around the old neighborhood...and now with all the weird promo and lack thereof...I just feel like he needs a prolonged amount of time away from The Bubble so that he can reconnect with himself. I do agree it takes two to tangle, and Eminem is definitely NO SAINT. But, I do find it interesting NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON had anything nice to say about her in that circle, even the bodyguard who didn't like Eminem and Rush who use to produce with him. Marshall broke his nose and he still only talked about how disturbed Kim was. Men and women complained about her. As the saying goes, there's a dead cat on that line somewhere. You would think someone had a nice word to say about her. Even his enemies didn't like her. SMH Seem like only people who publicly feel sorry for her are the people who didn't know her personally. We probably gotta move this to the miscellaneous thread I guess the thing with that is everyone who did have bad things to say about her wrote books about Em because they were upset they were cut off and Hush actually said some disrespectful things about Kim to Marshall which then caused him to fight Hush. Not saying Kim was an angel but neither was Em. I mean we don’t even know what all he did to ruin the relationship because he in the end is the celebrity with millions of women dying at a chance to be with him so i’d put money on he slept around more then her. There’s always two sides to the story and so far the only ones that were brave enough to say anything publicly all were from his side. Jenny tried sleeping with him when she was married herself so she was no better (Marshall even said that about her) I give her slack because both messed up but I do think they loved each other equally. The fact that after what went down he still came back to father her child by Eric speaks volumes.
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Post by summertimelive on Aug 8, 2022 20:28:11 GMT -5
I am one of those people who think you can't love someone too much if you treat someone the way they have each other.
The way he decided to handle her once HE got sober and better himself says alot. He became the best version of himself when he got sober and he didn't give that to her.
I think they held on too long than they should have
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Post by shimy on Aug 8, 2022 20:32:01 GMT -5
I am one of those people who think you can't love someone too much if you treat someone the way they have each other. The way he decided to handle her once HE got sober and better himself says alot. He became the best version of himself when he got sober and he didn't give that to her. I think they held on too long than they should have Then again we have no clue what he’s doing in his life so who’s to say that he actually let her go. You just never know when it comes to him. He was doing to much I still love your mom, you’re my lightning rod blah blah to say that he was over it.
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Post by shimy on Aug 8, 2022 20:38:02 GMT -5
I’m actually curious as to what Paul will talk about with Skylar on the next podcast. Will it be about working with Em? Her writing process?
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Post by annie18 on Aug 8, 2022 20:41:14 GMT -5
I’m finding it super odd that fifty isn’t advertising his song with em much. Usually he loves doing anything with em. And Em hasn’t done any promo HIMSELF. That is no interviews and everything has been from Paul. Wonder if 50 is protesting with em lol 😂 and both of them are mad at Ems team. 50 mainly bc Em is they only went for like paid promo in social media, UFC, that shitty pod and they made him sign like 1000 box sets so I guess he had it by then lol. But, it's weird that people in his tight circle didn't even acknowledge the release. I refuse to listen to that podcast so if something is worth knowing please spill the beans, otherwise wake me up when September comes lmao
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 8, 2022 20:53:15 GMT -5
I’m finding it super odd that fifty isn’t advertising his song with em much. Usually he loves doing anything with em. And Em hasn’t done any promo HIMSELF. That is no interviews and everything has been from Paul. Wonder if 50 is protesting with em lol 😂 and both of them are mad at Ems team. 50 mainly bc Em is they only went for like paid promo in social media, UFC, that shitty pod and they made him sign like 1000 box sets so I guess he had it by then lol. But, it's weird that people in his tight circle didn't even acknowledge the release. I refuse to listen to that podcast so if something is worth knowing please spill the beans, otherwise wake me up when September comes lmao I don't think that is a wet signature it is likely a stamp. Celebrities use stamps. I use to work in a major newsroom and sometimes when there were junkets or screenings for fans, we'd see their interns cranking in the back like Santa's elves stamping product. I hope people don't really think Marshall is in a room signing all that stuff. Only believe it is a wet signature if you see him sign it yourself. The real valuable signature if you can get something signed Marshall Mathers because he rarely if ever uses that signature on promo items.
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Post by matty on Aug 8, 2022 21:00:54 GMT -5
I’m finding it super odd that fifty isn’t advertising his song with em much. Usually he loves doing anything with em. And Em hasn’t done any promo HIMSELF. That is no interviews and everything has been from Paul. Wonder if 50 is protesting with em lol 😂 and both of them are mad at Ems team. 50 mainly bc Em is they only went for like paid promo in social media, UFC, that shitty pod and they made him sign like 1000 box sets so I guess he had it by then lol. But, it's weird that people in his tight circle didn't even acknowledge the release. I refuse to listen to that podcast so if something is worth knowing please spill the beans, otherwise wake me up when September comes lmao Paul and Royce have been advertising stuff and all of Paul’s minions But 50 and Em ain’t doing a damn thing and Em looked pissed and sounded pissed the last few times we saw him. Plus even Denaun didn’t post abojt it I know 50 is the closest thing Em has to a real friend so it’s interesting. Em didn’t even make new songs for this album really. All three new ones were originally for soemthjng else. Sounds like this was a Paul project and Em was like leave me alone so I can go bike so more and 50 and possibly Denaun were like yeah f this
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Post by annie18 on Aug 8, 2022 21:02:54 GMT -5
they only went for like paid promo in social media, UFC, that shitty pod and they made him sign like 1000 box sets so I guess he had it by then lol. But, it's weird that people in his tight circle didn't even acknowledge the release. I refuse to listen to that podcast so if something is worth knowing please spill the beans, otherwise wake me up when September comes lmao I don't think that is a wet signature it is likely a stamp. Celebrities use stamps. I use to work in a major newsroom and sometimes when there were junkets or screenings for fans, we'd see their interns cranking in the back like Santa's elves stamping product. I hope people don't really think Marshall is in a room signing all that stuff. Only believe it is a wet signature if you see him sign it yourself. The real valuable signature if you can get something signed Marshall Mathers because he rarely if ever uses that signature on promo items. lol I know, I was joking , it was just to exemplifly the st**ass promo they tried to make.
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Post by summertimelive on Aug 8, 2022 21:06:50 GMT -5
I am one of those people who think you can't love someone too much if you treat someone the way they have each other. The way he decided to handle her once HE got sober and better himself says alot. He became the best version of himself when he got sober and he didn't give that to her. I think they held on too long than they should have Then again we have no clue what he’s doing in his life so who’s to say that he actually let her go. You just never know when it comes to him. He was doing to much I still love your mom, you’re my lightning rod blah blah to say that he was over it. Consider what's been going on with kim since her sister died, I highly doubt he is in her life LIKE THAT.
He is a recovering addict while she has been the total opposite. No way is that working out in a relationship. He wasn't even the one that found her when she tried to kill herself last year just a few days after her mom passed. She wasn't even around for the superbowl.
Revival was a reflective album and he hasn't made a song like that since. I think it was something that fit.
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Post by annie18 on Aug 8, 2022 21:07:04 GMT -5
they only went for like paid promo in social media, UFC, that shitty pod and they made him sign like 1000 box sets so I guess he had it by then lol. But, it's weird that people in his tight circle didn't even acknowledge the release. I refuse to listen to that podcast so if something is worth knowing please spill the beans, otherwise wake me up when September comes lmao Paul and Royce have been advertising stuff and all of Paul’s minions But 50 and Em ain’t doing a damn thing and Em looked pissed and sounded pissed the last few times we saw him. Plus even Denaun didn’t post abojt it I know 50 is the closest thing Em has to a real friend so it’s interesting. Em didn’t even make new songs for this album really. All three new ones were originally for soemthjng else. Sounds like this was a Paul project and Em was like leave me alone so I can go bike so more and 50 and possibly Denaun were like yeah f this I think the song with Snoop was for another project and the collection thing again popped out and they decided to use it there. Was there gonna be in Mount Westmore album? 'cause I remember Em's team posting the first single in IG
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Post by shimy on Aug 8, 2022 21:10:55 GMT -5
Then again we have no clue what he’s doing in his life so who’s to say that he actually let her go. You just never know when it comes to him. He was doing to much I still love your mom, you’re my lightning rod blah blah to say that he was over it. Consider what's been going on with kim since her sister died, I highly doubt he is in her life LIKE THAT.
He is a recovering addict while she has been the total opposite. No way is that working out. He wasn't even the one that found her when she tried to kill herself last year
Well we didn’t get all the details from her incident. We know Alaina called 911 and was also noted as one of Kathys friends instead of granddaughter (as per police reports clearly they were trying to keep details hidden) but still have no clue exactly who the other person was. I don’t know it’s all just speculation anyway and makes for some convo when things are slow with Em.
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Post by summertimelive on Aug 8, 2022 21:17:26 GMT -5
Consider what's been going on with kim since her sister died, I highly doubt he is in her life LIKE THAT.
He is a recovering addict while she has been the total opposite. No way is that working out. He wasn't even the one that found her when she tried to kill herself last year
Well we didn’t get all the details from her incident. We know Alaina called 911 and was also noted as one of Kathys friends instead of granddaughter (as per police reports clearly they were trying to keep details hidden) but still have no clue exactly who the other person was. I don’t know it’s all just speculation anyway and makes for some convo when things are slow with Em.
I just believe him when he said they were highly unlikely to have a relationship again. Especially since one is clean and one is not nearly there last we heard.
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Post by annie18 on Aug 8, 2022 21:17:37 GMT -5
sorry guys I don't want to be rude or stop your convo but there's a Kim thread if you want to continue there, otherwise we're like having three different topics in a CC2 thread. Please don't take it personally, thank you!!
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