Kim Suicide Attempt 2021

[olliec]

Aug 11, 2021 10:25:34 GMT -5 matty said:

the perceptive here. 

y’all ever think the reason the girls mention their dad more is because they are simply closer? Remember all those comments from denaun and random ppl wishing Em a happy Mother’s Day/dad day? Y’all thought as to why?

i feel genuinely horrible for Kim I’d do. She has been through a lot. But so have the girls and it doesn’t seem emotionally their mom has been reliable…not saying Em has been perfect at all. At all. But it does seem to me anyway that he has been the more present parent. That’s how I see it. To me it seems like the girls have to be there more for her than vice versa. Again Em def has/had his issues but maybe the girls are emotionally blocked off from Kim and Em has been there more. Even Kim said he is great father.

I know this is a Kim fan club. So I’m gonna get killed. But just take a second looking at her history. I AM NOT SAYING IT MAKES HER A BAD PERSON. At all. But It does make her emotionally fragile which sometimes doesn’t make a reliable parent. I think she needs intense therapy. Perhaps inpatient for a while. Her reaction to things is very very scary. I lost my mom at 15. So I get it. Losing ur mom is horrendous but life will keep coming. She needs help to learn to react in a safe way. Alaina and Stevie lost their parent before 30. Ever think they are broken too but have to stay strong for her?

as far as it leaking it could have been anyone. A family member of Kim’s, someone in Ems circle that heard and wants to piss him off, Kim’s ex boyfriend…there isn’t a lot of info with it so I guarantee it’s someone that heard it through the grapevine

tmz is grimy as fuckkkk. They have Britney personal information too. They have the most grimey sources tbh.

Yea matty the comment can be easily explained by the fact that he never had a father - unlike Denaun who grew up with a loving father!

[tcat]

Aug 11, 2021 9:51:51 GMT -5 @hazy said:

Aug 11, 2021 9:42:59 GMT -5 tcat said:

we have no idea what Kim's relationship is with her kids.  Growing up, my mom did all the "super-mom" stuff.  She was as stay at home mom and would drive us to school, volunteered at our school, was scout mom, homeroom mom, etc.  However, she was horribly, horribly mentally and emotionally abusive.  To the outside world, she was mom of the year.  Inside our house was a different story.  

We only know of the 2 (or 3 if you count back in early 2000) suicide attempts from Kim.  It is entirely possible there were more, or threats of suicide.  This is a form of manipulation and a way of controlling those closest to you.  Her kids could be carrying on with their life because suicide attempts/threats are the norm and they have stopped reacting to them.  If Kim seriously wanted to die, she would have gone through with it on the multiple occassions she has tried.  Kim clearly needs help but Kim HAS TO WANT the help.  No one can save Kim from Kim.  And no one else is responsible for Kim and her actions.

I don't mean to come down hard on Kim as I know she is struggling, but I felt the need to defend her kids and the assumptions and criticism everyone is making.  Unless you live with someone who is mentally ill and using suicide as a means to try and control you, you really have no room passing judgement on her children.  I am sure they love their mom but they have to take care of themselves, least they become like her.  So lets stop making suggestions on what her kids should have done.  We don't know even a fraction of what goes on in her house on a daily basis.

I'm sorry, my heart goes out to you & anyone else who has to deal with hardships like that.. especially with their parents. If they have learned to dismiss Kim's behavior, it makes sense.. but their grandma also just died. The grandma that Hailie wrote a very heartfelt message to on her obituary page to. Clearly the girls are close with their grandma, but I don't know how you'd feel comfortable going to a concert the day after your grandma has passed. The message by Hailie seems a bit performative now, and I think she just left one just to feel less guilty about her actions.. I'm sure they cared for the grandmother a lot, but you think they would be able to respectfully grieve her death & be there for Kim without flying to another city to attend a concert during a pandemic to boot.. 

Again sorry if i'm projecting, but I could never imagine doing these types of things after a death in my family to someone close. 

We have no idea who wrote that comment, as the person did not leave their name.  I assumed it was Alaina because she has posted her thoughts and emotions in the past.  Hailie never has.

Also, we have no idea what the grandmother was like either.  She could have been dealing with mental issues as well.  It usually runs in the family.  Remember, this is the woman who supposedly abandoned her daughters when they were young.  Let Kim live with Marshall and Debbie for several years while she was still a minor.  Kim and Em took Alaina in permanently because she was bouncing from house to house as a child.  Why didn't her grandmother take her and her brother in when they were born/younger?  Also, when Kim gave that radio interview after she and Em split, wasn't she taking care of PJ (or Patrick), Dawn's other child and didn't she go get him out of foster care?  Why wasn't the grandma taking care of him? 


I don't know Kim's mom or really anything about her, it's just that if you look back at what we do know about their past, it doesn't really seem like she was the kind, loving grandma.  I always assumed she saw those kids as a burden she didn't want, which is her prerogative, she didn't birth them.  But just because you saw a couple pictures with her arm around a grandkid, don't assume all is warm and fuzzy.  

And again, don't make assumptions about someone and how they should react when you know nothing about their life.

[shimy]

My goodness why are y’all so damn insensitive? Give me a break. Kathy died weeks ago now you’re judging her character?! Pitiful.

[tracey]

I think Kim has a good relationship with her kids. Those kids love both of their parents. Kim was in the hospital, I don’t think you can have guest anyways so why shouldn’t the kids go have fun and get their mind off of things  That’s how I see it

[Deleted]

I think being a fan of EM it's easy to dismiss the horrible things he had done to Kim and brought upon them. Has the songs he made about their lives paid off monetarily? Hell yes, and we all know that.. but he did a lot of damage by publicly putting his family out there in a bad light. Every family goes through shit, but a lot of it was obviously exaggerated as he has said so himself just because it's entertainment. Just because one person was able to recover (which we don't currently know if Em has ever relapsed, let's be honest) but I believe he has still been clean, that doesn't mean Kim is a horrible person because she hasn't gotten to that point yet. I do think to overcome anything you have to want that for yourself, and I hope Kim finds peace someday. She was clean for a while, even before Em was apparently but then she relapsed.

The girls also grew up around Kim more than Em, do I think Em is a great parent? Yes. Clearly he loves all the girls, has provided them amazing lives, and even took in Alaina and Stevie when he really didn't have the obligation to, but he did it regardless. I admire that, but he is also the mega star.. he is travelling, writing, at the studio putting in his 9-5, doing concerts, etc. He obviously wasn't around as much when the girls were younger because he was at his peak/his comeback (recovery era) So I believe Kim had to put in most the brunt work and because EM has the money, the fame, fans, etc. People just want to paint him as he can do no wrong.. but he also had his troubles at one point. Kim even said during his drug days he wouldn't even check up on the kids, he'd disappear, etc. They were both shitty parents at some points in their lives if we're being real.

I just hope Kim recovers well and she has people around her that care for her and are there for her.

[matty]

tcat I saw ur post but I’m not commenting anymore on this thread

It’s making me feel sick/triggering me

[shimy]

The girls spent majority of their time with Kim growing up (he was gone a lot) and look at how great they turned out to be so Kim seems to have been a great mom to them and I’m sure they love her as well as Em. Kim has her faults just like Em but now people have gone to the extreme with trying to paint her as a monster when they have only heard what Em has said in his music.

If Kim was so bad no way would have married her two times or constantly gone back to her throughout the years!

[matty]

Omggggggggggggggggg. That’s it.

Alright guys taking a break from this board until Em does soemthjng with music or Em news or ever tbh

[shimy]

Aug 11, 2021 10:50:21 GMT -5 matty said:

Omggggggggggggggggg. That’s it.

Alright guys taking a break from this board until Em does soemthjng with music or Em news or ever tbh

I’m hoping your departure if form the insensitive crap people are spewing and not because people actually feel bad for Kim. Suicide is no time to be picking apart someone’s past behavior or their dead relatives.

[matty]

shimy where in my post did I say I didn’t feel bad for her?

If u can’t figure out why I’m finding this triggering than idk what to tell u

[shimy]

Aug 11, 2021 10:57:05 GMT -5 matty said:

shimy where in my post did I not say I didn’t feel bad for her?

If u can’t figure out why I’m finding this triggering than idk what to tell u

Well I know how you post (we go back to shady camp) so safe to say you never know what it comes to you.

[tracey]

let’s be respectful of people’s moms especially deceased ones . Talking bad about Kathy is effed up

[matty]

shimy I have no remembrance of who u are but I’ve always been chill with Kim

Now stop mentioning me because ur opinion is mute to me 

[shimy]

Aug 11, 2021 11:00:42 GMT -5 matty said:

shimy I have no remembrance of who u are but I’ve always been chill with Kim

Now stop mentioning me because ur opinion is mute to me 

Lol K

then block my mute opinions but I’ll continue to share them as I wish

[tcat]

Aug 11, 2021 10:43:53 GMT -5 matty said:

tcat I saw ur post but I’m not commenting anymore on this thread

It’s making me feel sick/triggering me

fair enough. I'm done too.  I probably got too emotional because I am an adult that has had to deal with a mentally ill mother who uses "suicide" as a means to control her children...along with many other manipulative ways.

My mom was in the hospital last week and my sister and I were losing our patience with her, as we often times do.  We were snapping at her and cutting her off when she was speaking and I could see the side eye the nurses were giving us and all I could think was, "you have no idea, lady". I know people pass judgment on me when they see how I sometimes speak to her but they really have no idea just how difficult it is to have a normal conversation with my mom.  

This was when my mom was in the ER.  Now once she got to her room, the nurses there fully understood why we lost our patience with my mom, as they were at the end of their rope with her as well.  The main doctor even called for a psych consult on my mom, to which my mother told them there was nothing wrong with her, it was me, my sister and father who needed the psych help.  (this is part of BPD.  Nothing is ever their fault). The doctor sent her home early because she was refusing to cooperate with anyone and was just overall a total asshole to everyone.  My sis and I had a huge box of cookies and brownies delivered to the nurses for having to put up with my mother.  She really can embarass us with her behavior at times, as I imagine Kim does with her kids.  She is home now and refusing to take the mood stabalizing meds the doctor gave her, because according to her, there is nothing wrong with her.  You can't help someone who won't help themselves.

I guess I just got upset seeing everyone passing judgement on the girls when we have no idea what they go through with Kim.  I love my mom and understand she is ill but for my own mental health, I have to go on with my life and came to ignore her suicide attempts long ago.  I imagine this is what the girls have done with Kim, as they should.  I wish I had done that when I was in my early 20's.  Would have saved me 10-15 years of heartache.  

Like I said, I am done and moving on.  No point in arguing with others about this.  If you don't get it, you don't get it.