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Post by olliec on Aug 11, 2021 8:34:09 GMT -5
I wouldn’t really pay-close attention to 90% of the articles that are coming out being that they are all regurgitating what TMZ wrote - now I do wonder how TMZ received the story and why we have yet to hear the details revolving his on-going case?!
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Post by snootchy on Aug 11, 2021 8:40:12 GMT -5
I wouldn’t really pay-close attention to 90% of the articles that are coming out being that they are all regurgitating what TMZ wrote - now I do wonder how TMZ received the story and why we have yet to hear the details revolving his on-going case?!
I'm not, I just hate the DM and the headline pissed me off.
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Post by tcat on Aug 11, 2021 9:16:38 GMT -5
How is this public? This is a medical issue and should NOT have been made public. In fact, I'm not sure about Michigan, but i know in most states, releasing medical information is against the law. There are also federal HIPPA laws that protect people's medical information. Making this public can't possibly be good for her mental health right now...especially given how private she is with her personal life.
Even her last suicide attempt was not made public by first responders. She is the one who made it public. The reason we knew about the DUI is because that is against the law and criminal activity is public information. She DID NOT break any laws here. This is a private matter that needs to be kept private.
As for her kids posting stuff on IG, we need to give them a break. They are grown adults and trying to live their own lives. While I am sure they love and care about their mom, they need to take care of themselves. This is coming from someone who has a mother that is mentally ill and always "going to kill herself". It took me until middle age to realize that my mom is not my responsibility and has refused to help herself, which is part of her illness (she is borderline personality disorder). For myself, I could no longer shoulder the burden of my mom.
We don't know exactly what Kim's mental issues are and we have no idea the toll it has taken on her kids. This might explain why Whitney/Stevie seems to be a very confused young woman/man right now. Being raised by someone who is mentally ill has a lasting effect on the children. This is not to place blame on Kim, as I have nothing but sympathy for her and wish her good things, but to try and put things into perspective. Her kids probably have to distance themselves from her for their own mental health, much like Kim had to do with her sister. Lets not speculate on what her kids think based on some social media posts.
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Post by tracey on Aug 11, 2021 9:27:00 GMT -5
So sad. I hope she can make it through this.
Now regarding her children’s being active on social media doesn’t really mean anything. Maybe they were told to go live their lives and have fun as someone else will take care or look after Kim or whatever the case is. This just goes to show the social media is not real. People portray the good not the bad.
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Post by me on Aug 11, 2021 9:41:31 GMT -5
The DailyMail is basically blaming Em...
It’s DM, what did you expect… 🤦🏼♀️🙄 more Em, more clicks 😬 |
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Post by tcat on Aug 11, 2021 9:42:59 GMT -5
So sad. I hope she can make it through this. Now regarding her children’s being active on social media doesn’t really mean anything. Maybe they were told to go live their lives and have fun as someone else will take care or look after Kim or whatever the case is. This just goes to show the social media is not real. People portray the good not the bad. I agree people don't show the bad stuff on social media.. but you'd assume when people go through some of lifes worse events back to back you wouldn't have time to post or have the motivation to post at a time like this? Especially post half naked on a boat.. I don't know, maybe it's just me taking it too seriously but I feel really bad for Kim. Her kids should be there for her, especially after losing her mother.. but her kids seem to care less. She really does have no one, it's so sad. we have no idea what Kim's relationship is with her kids. Growing up, my mom did all the "super-mom" stuff. She was as stay at home mom and would drive us to school, volunteered at our school, was scout mom, homeroom mom, etc. However, she was horribly, horribly mentally and emotionally abusive. To the outside world, she was mom of the year. Inside our house was a different story. We only know of the 2 (or 3 if you count back in early 2000) suicide attempts from Kim. It is entirely possible there were more, or threats of suicide. This is a form of manipulation and a way of controlling those closest to you. Her kids could be carrying on with their life because suicide attempts/threats are the norm and they have stopped reacting to them. If Kim seriously wanted to die, she would have gone through with it on the multiple occassions she has tried. Kim clearly needs help but Kim HAS TO WANT the help. No one can save Kim from Kim. And no one else is responsible for Kim and her actions. I don't mean to come down hard on Kim as I know she is struggling, but I felt the need to defend her kids and the assumptions and criticism everyone is making. Unless you live with someone who is mentally ill and using suicide as a means to try and control you, you really have no room passing judgement on her children. I am sure they love their mom but they have to take care of themselves, least they become like her. So lets stop making suggestions on what her kids should have done. We don't know even a fraction of what goes on in her house on a daily basis. |
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Post by olliec on Aug 11, 2021 9:48:02 GMT -5
. . .fair enough tcat - you made valid points but the only difference is that Kim has led a very public/out of the ordinary life (the women was bullied by her own husband and millions of plp for years)! It’s fair to say the girls are close to their mother based on some of the pics we’ve seen but yes we don’t know the extent of their relationship but either way had it been me, I would put my own personal opinions aside and show love towards my mother publicly knowing damn well no one ever did. . . Hailie has never done so and again I can understand why to an extent but at the same time I find it sad/odd - just my opinion. . . |
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Post by stefanie on Aug 11, 2021 9:55:28 GMT -5
I agree people don't show the bad stuff on social media.. but you'd assume when people go through some of lifes worse events back to back you wouldn't have time to post or have the motivation to post at a time like this? Especially post half naked on a boat.. I don't know, maybe it's just me taking it too seriously but I feel really bad for Kim. Her kids should be there for her, especially after losing her mother.. but her kids seem to care less. She really does have no one, it's so sad. we have no idea what Kim's relationship is with her kids. Growing up, my mom did all the "super-mom" stuff. She was as stay at home mom and would drive us to school, volunteered at our school, was scout mom, homeroom mom, etc. However, she was horribly, horribly mentally and emotionally abusive. To the outside world, she was mom of the year. Inside our house was a different story. We only know of the 2 (or 3 if you count back in early 2000) suicide attempts from Kim. It is entirely possible there were more, or threats of suicide. This is a form of manipulation and a way of controlling those closest to you. Her kids could be carrying on with their life because suicide attempts/threats are the norm and they have stopped reacting to them. If Kim seriously wanted to die, she would have gone through with it on the multiple occassions she has tried. Kim clearly needs help but Kim HAS TO WANT the help. No one can save Kim from Kim. And no one else is responsible for Kim and her actions. I don't mean to come down hard on Kim as I know she is struggling, but I felt the need to defend her kids and the assumptions and criticism everyone is making. Unless you live with someone who is mentally ill and using suicide as a means to try and control you, you really have no room passing judgement on her children. I am sure they love their mom but they have to take care of themselves, least they become like her. So lets stop making suggestions on what her kids should have done. We don't know even a fraction of what goes on in her house on a daily basis. I absolutely agree with you. I have been witness of a mother like that. I understand the girls. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 10:01:29 GMT -5
. . .fair enough tcat - you made valid points but the only difference is that Kim has led a very public/out of the ordinary life (the women was bullied by her own husband and millions of plp for years)! It’s fair to say the girls are close to their mother based on some of the pics we’ve seen but yes we don’t know the extent of their relationships but either way had it been me, I would put my own personal opinions aside and show love towards my mother publicly knowing damn well no one ever did. . . Hailie has never done so and again I can understand why to an extent but at the same time I find it sad/odd - just my opinion. . . I wouldn't expect them to come out publicly about their grandmothers death, or especially the suicide attempt as they are private people. It's just odd how they want to be left alone, don't want to talk about their dad but they all have used his name to gain platforms.. Hailie is baiting his fans by posting throwback pics of him but covering his face when we all know who it is.. lol. Alaina has answered some questions about him in her stories, and Stevie making Tik Toks about him now. They never mention Kim at all. I get that their dad is the famous/rich one, and most regular people don't post their families on IG anyways but it all just seems very contradicting to not want fans to talk about their dad, or associate him with them but then they continue to use him for followers, likes, brand deals, etc. |
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Post by olliec on Aug 11, 2021 10:04:37 GMT -5
@hazy - I don’t expect them to comment on the recent events but rather throughout the years (ex. Mother’s Day/Birthday’s)
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Post by matty on Aug 11, 2021 10:08:22 GMT -5
Holy shit u guys
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2021 10:09:34 GMT -5
@hazy - I don’t expect them to comment on the recent events but rather throughout the years (ex. Mother’s Day/Birthday’s) Yeah I remember when Hailie gave EM a happy birthday shoutout with a throwback pic but they never do that with Kim.. |
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Post by tcat on Aug 11, 2021 10:19:19 GMT -5
. . .fair enough tcat - you made valid points but the only difference is that Kim has led a very public/out of the ordinary life (the women was bullied by her own husband and millions of plp for years)! It’s fair to say the girls are close to their mother based on some of the pics we’ve seen but yes we don’t know the extent of their relationship but either way had it been me, I would put my own personal opinions aside and show love towards my mother publicly knowing damn well no one ever did. . . Hailie has never done so and again I can understand why to an extent but at the same time I find it sad/odd - just my opinion. . . nd k I cannot stress this enough...YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR HOUSE. To think that you know what their relationship is because you saw a couple of pictures at the holidays is so out of reality. First, social media is NOT reality. Second, if you saw pictures of me and mom at the holidays, you would think we had a warm, close relationship...and we don't because my mom is mentally ill. To equate what you would do based on your life experiences with what you think they should do is just wrong. You haven't lived their life and you have no idea what their relationship with their mom is really like. matty didn't Royce's wife post a comment several years ago about how Em was the one doing all the raising of the kids? (I ask you because you are the most knowledgeable on Royce). And when her last suicide attempt/DUI happened, weren't there people who used to party with her but said they had to cut ties with her because she was too toxic? And Kim hasn't really lived a public life. Her ex husband wrote some nasty songs about her 20 years ago, and she married him again (twice) after the fact, so we can assume they worked it out between the two of them. They have been divorced for 15 years, much longer than they were together. I believe they have moved on with their lives and both Kim and Marshall have had ample opportunity to seek the help they needed to get over the damage they caused each other. And while her relationship with Em was obviously not healthy for either of them, I don't think he was the root of her problems. Remember, her sister was a street junkie. Was Em responsible for that as well. Didn't Kim live with Em and his mom because Kim's mother didn't want her? This has lasting effects and a person, even if they make amends with their mom. |
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Post by tracey on Aug 11, 2021 10:25:13 GMT -5
We don’t know these people guys so calm down lol let’s just pray for Kim and the family.
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Post by matty on Aug 11, 2021 10:25:34 GMT -5
the perceptive here.
y’all ever think the reason the girls mention their dad more is because they are simply closer? Remember all those comments from denaun and random ppl wishing Em a happy Mother’s Day/dad day? Y’all thought as to why?
i feel genuinely horrible for Kim I’d do. She has been through a lot. But so have the girls and it doesn’t seem emotionally their mom has been reliable…not saying Em has been perfect at all. At all. But it does seem to me anyway that he has been the more present parent. That’s how I see it. To me it seems like the girls have to be there more for her than vice versa. Again Em def has/had his issues but maybe the girls are emotionally blocked off from Kim and Em has been there more. Even Kim said he is great father.
I know this is a Kim fan club. So I’m gonna get killed. But just take a second looking at her history. I AM NOT SAYING IT MAKES HER A BAD PERSON. At all. But It does make her emotionally fragile which sometimes doesn’t make a reliable parent. I think she needs intense therapy. Perhaps inpatient for a while. Her reaction to things is very very scary. I lost my mom at 15. So I get it. Losing ur mom is horrendous but life will keep coming. She needs help to learn to react in a safe way. Alaina and Stevie lost their parent before 30. Ever think they are broken too but have to stay strong for her?
as far as it leaking it could have been anyone. A family member of Kim’s, someone in Ems circle that heard and wants to piss him off, Kim’s ex boyfriend…there isn’t a lot of info with it so I guarantee it’s someone that heard it through the grapevine
tmz is grimy as fuckkkk. They have Britney personal information too. They have the most grimey sources tbh.
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