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Post by annie18 on Mar 11, 2024 20:53:04 GMT -5
Pretty sure he will be there as a "surprise" guest lol he's not mentioned as a speaker though.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Mar 11, 2024 21:59:14 GMT -5
This article kind of discounts an appearance from EMzy, but you never know... "DR. DRE TO BE HONORED WITH STAR ON THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME" Walk of Fame article below and it's streaming live!
It's hard to believe he wouldn't be there, but I guess Dre is closer to Snoop and Jimmy Iovine has been his business partner in a few projects. Maybe he will still come and be in the audience even if he isn't speaking.
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Post by miarose on Mar 12, 2024 6:19:18 GMT -5
That's terrible. People are fkin nuts. This Stan documentary is going to be hilarious. I wonder if he is going to celebrated the Stans in all their levels of fanaticism or is he going to low-key side eye them in this documentary. I can not see Stans coming off looking sane in this things cnsidering what they do. See this was my thought too! em wrote Stan based off of fans that are so obsessed that it borders on lunacy. There’s stans on twitter jumping up and down begging to be on it but “Stan” isn’t meant to be a positive thing. Considering he is basically a recluse, I assumed it would be like “I appreciate you but can you back off, look what you’re doing” kinda thing 😬 Like I love him and I enjoy conversing about him but I’m not a STAN Stan, some people really do do some crazy things and that has to be quite scary. Like the girl that had all the tattoos, she seems sweet and normal enough but I can’t imagine what I’d feel if somebody did that for me.
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Post by missy84 on Mar 12, 2024 6:25:16 GMT -5
This Stan documentary is going to be hilarious. I wonder if he is going to celebrated the Stans in all their levels of fanaticism or is he going to low-key side eye them in this documentary. I can not see Stans coming off looking sane in this things cnsidering what they do. See this was my thought too! em wrote Stan based off of fans that are so obsessed that it borders on lunacy. There’s stans on twitter jumping up and down begging to be on it but “Stan” isn’t meant to be a positive thing. Considering he is basically a recluse, I assumed it would be like “I appreciate you but can you back off, look what you’re doing” kinda thing 😬 Like I love him and I enjoy conversing about him but I’m not a STAN Stan, some people really do do some crazy things and that has to be quite scary. Like the girl that had all the tattoos, she seems sweet and normal enough but I can’t imagine what I’d feel if somebody did that for me. Some of the Stan’s don’t act right 😬. There is a girl on instagram whotruly believe they are married and argues with anyone who tells her different. At first I thought she was joking but…..she’s not. I enjoy his music but that is where it stops.
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Post by adry on Mar 12, 2024 6:43:29 GMT -5
Very interested is he, come to the event. If he appears there, what will be his role, as an observer or to praise him, and unfortunately, he will probably be surrounded by well-known people!
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Post by alphagirl01 on Mar 12, 2024 7:50:22 GMT -5
This Stan documentary is going to be hilarious. I wonder if he is going to celebrated the Stans in all their levels of fanaticism or is he going to low-key side eye them in this documentary. I can not see Stans coming off looking sane in this things cnsidering what they do. See this was my thought too! em wrote Stan based off of fans that are so obsessed that it borders on lunacy. There’s stans on twitter jumping up and down begging to be on it but “Stan” isn’t meant to be a positive thing. Considering he is basically a recluse, I assumed it would be like “I appreciate you but can you back off, look what you’re doing” kinda thing 😬 Like I love him and I enjoy conversing about him but I’m not a STAN Stan, some people really do do some crazy things and that has to be quite scary. Like the girl that had all the tattoos, she seems sweet and normal enough but I can’t imagine what I’d feel if somebody did that for me. I totally agree!!!! I even wonder if this dcumentary will get super deep. I know I have watched other fan documentaries and most of them talk about the extreme cases that ended in harming celebrities like Rebecca Schaeffer, Theresa Saldana and even Jodi Foster. Jodi had an obsessed fan who supposedly tried to shoot Reagan for her. Theresa, who played the wife on the TV show "The Commish" was stabbed on a busy street by a fanatic fan and he hired a PI to track her down. Fortunately she lived and became an activist regarding stalking. Then there is Rebecca who was sweet to her fans and would write them back. Her people told her not to respond to certain fans and she made the mistake of doing so. This guy thought they were dating and when she spurned his affections, he also hired somene to find her, he took a bus to California went to her home and shot her. I know we laugh about Stans, but as we can see from his intruder, these people can go off track real quick. I do believe Eminem is on the spectrum and some people who, are suffer from paranoia as well. Couple that with loony fans, it could make sense why he locks himself away and no longer shares personal information. Also, no telling the kind of fan mail he receives. A part of me thinks he plans to share all the craziness he has experienced as a way to explain why he has been distant in a sense from his fans. I feel like his Stans are about to be painted in a CRAZY light, I just hope it is not a broad stroke, because not all the people who appreciate his music, look at him through a magnifying lense.
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Post by missy84 on Mar 12, 2024 8:02:54 GMT -5
Very interested is he, come to the event. If he appears there, what will be his role, as an observer or to praise him, and unfortunately, he will probably be surrounded by well-known people! He definitely will be surrounded by well known people, it’s a celebrity event.
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Post by thisman85 on Mar 12, 2024 8:28:29 GMT -5
It could be that. I wonder how much money goes into the label versus profits that are brought in. I don't really think that Em purposely buries them. What I think is that Em has a very niche label for specific types artists. My bet is that other labels that are more successful require their artists to be more commercial. Like Em had to drop my name is, the real slim shady,.etc.. he was more or less forced to do that. I think with Shady Records, the artist has more creative control. However they good they are, they're not commercial enough and wouldn't really survive on other labels. The promotion is non existent, but Em himself is the real promo. His name along will bring in some level of revenue versus them being independent. Now, the last side of it.. a friend of mine is a rapper (akonixx), he was saying that basically, the artists under a label can never be bigger than the artist who owns the label. For instance, even when drake was under cash money records, Wayne was bigger at the time. Since Drake left, now he's gotten even bigger. What are your thoughts? I see what you are saying and it makes sense that an artist wouldn't want his artist to be bigger than him, that's if he is purely looking at it from a personal perspective. But if an artist is a true businessman, then that is different. Like Rihanna was signed by Jay-z and he positioned her to be huge, setting her up with great fetaures, etc. I don't think Eminem is a businessman and it literally makes no sense to bring on artists and lose money. Em even said he lost money with Slaughterhouse. Em may not know any better than to do that, but Paul has 50% ownership in Shady, he is definitely not trying to lose money. All these artsist they bring on have their on grass roots following, then they sign to Shady and no one hears from them anymore. I honestly think Yelawolf could have been commercial, same with EZ Mil, so what is the problem? I think Boogie, could have been commercial as well. Had these guys been on labels with Jay-z or Diddy (who is evil in my opinion) they probably would have had more traction. Look at MGK, he is still faring decently under Diddy. I don't think anyone touches these artists once they've been with Shady. You may be right about Em not tanking people on purpose, but it's sad that label does not have enough self awareness to realize that they kill careers. Like, how many artists have they bene through so far? I don't feel like being attached to Em has done much for any of his artists professionally. His only true success was 50 Cent and that was not because of what Em did, besides getting him on the label. Curtis knows how to market himself, most artists have no clue how to do that at all. That's what a label is for, that is what Interscope did for Eminem. It's the 20/80 rule. Spend 20% of the time producing content and 80% promoting it. I do wonder after Em is gone, who will replace him for his audience base. I can't see Inetrsciope letting all that money potential slip through their hands. One thing I agree with people saying is that a majority of Em's base are not true hip hop heads, they mostly just love Eminem. Hey! Sorry for the late response... Just got back from Vegas. So, with Rihanna, she definitely is huge. But, she's bigger because of the clothing line than with music (even though she was massive in that arena too). But, I gotta say, Jay was still bigger at that time. I wish Em did the same with his artists. If Em is a businessman, he's terrible at it lol. He should be doing a bit more for these artists, especially since you can use social media platforms for promotions and they're relatively cheap to advertise on these platforms. Like I have no idea how many albums grip or boogie even dropped at this point.. any mixtapes, etc.. As for EZ Mil, he could really blow up, but I also listened to some of his catalog and it's all over the place (he does metal too). He could end up like a lot of dres artists who end up just being song writers a lot of the times. I liked that you brought up the 20/80 rule! I think that makes perfect sense of what an artist and label should do. As for what happens when em is gone... I don't think anyone can replace him to be honest. There might be others that are similar like him, but just won't be. I do think that he's an anomaly within hip hop. Sorry if this response is all over the place.. I'm still exhausted 😂
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Post by adry on Mar 12, 2024 9:49:03 GMT -5
Very interested is he, come to the event. If he appears there, what will be his role, as an observer or to praise him, and unfortunately, he will probably be surrounded by well-known people! He definitely will be surrounded by well known people, it’s a celebrity event. I didn't mean the, celebrity around him...!
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Post by alphagirl01 on Mar 12, 2024 9:53:13 GMT -5
I see what you are saying and it makes sense that an artist wouldn't want his artist to be bigger than him, that's if he is purely looking at it from a personal perspective. But if an artist is a true businessman, then that is different. Like Rihanna was signed by Jay-z and he positioned her to be huge, setting her up with great fetaures, etc. I don't think Eminem is a businessman and it literally makes no sense to bring on artists and lose money. Em even said he lost money with Slaughterhouse. Em may not know any better than to do that, but Paul has 50% ownership in Shady, he is definitely not trying to lose money. All these artsist they bring on have their on grass roots following, then they sign to Shady and no one hears from them anymore. I honestly think Yelawolf could have been commercial, same with EZ Mil, so what is the problem? I think Boogie, could have been commercial as well. Had these guys been on labels with Jay-z or Diddy (who is evil in my opinion) they probably would have had more traction. Look at MGK, he is still faring decently under Diddy. I don't think anyone touches these artists once they've been with Shady. You may be right about Em not tanking people on purpose, but it's sad that label does not have enough self awareness to realize that they kill careers. Like, how many artists have they bene through so far? I don't feel like being attached to Em has done much for any of his artists professionally. His only true success was 50 Cent and that was not because of what Em did, besides getting him on the label. Curtis knows how to market himself, most artists have no clue how to do that at all. That's what a label is for, that is what Interscope did for Eminem. It's the 20/80 rule. Spend 20% of the time producing content and 80% promoting it. I do wonder after Em is gone, who will replace him for his audience base. I can't see Inetrsciope letting all that money potential slip through their hands. One thing I agree with people saying is that a majority of Em's base are not true hip hop heads, they mostly just love Eminem. Hey! Sorry for the late response... Just got back from Vegas. So, with Rihanna, she definitely is huge. But, she's bigger because of the clothing line than with music (even though she was massive in that arena too). But, I gotta say, Jay was still bigger at that time. I wish Em did the same with his artists. If Em is a businessman, he's terrible at it lol. He should be doing a bit more for these artists, especially since you can use social media platforms for promotions and they're relatively cheap to advertise on these platforms. Like I have no idea how many albums grip or boogie even dropped at this point.. any mixtapes, etc.. As for EZ Mil, he could really blow up, but I also listened to some of his catalog and it's all over the place (he does metal too). He could end up like a lot of dres artists who end up just being song writers a lot of the times. I liked that you brought up the 20/80 rule! I think that makes perfect sense of what an artist and label should do. As for what happens when em is gone... I don't think anyone can replace him to be honest. There might be others that are similar like him, but just won't be. I do think that he's an anomaly within hip hop. Sorry if this response is all over the place.. I'm still exhausted 😂 No worries at all! I hope you had fun in Vegas!!!! I agree. Eminem is a hip hop unicorn, in part because of the narrative and image they created around him in the beginning. He is super talented, of course, it couldn't have been done without that and his hard work and dedication. He is a true storyteller and Interscope put the money behind him to get him out to the maases and it paid off in spades, and he blew up from there. He gave a voice to a segment of the population that previously the only genre that did that for them was country music and some rock. It allowed that base a pathway into hip hop. I feel like Hip Hop is the urban version of country — a music form that allows musicians to tell their life story, trials and tribulations. Until Eminem, I don't think there was anyone who realy did that for middle America on a pop culture level in hip hop. That is why I wonder who will fill that void when he is gone. But I agree, there will never be another Eminem, like there will never be another Tupac. Tupac was able to appeal to men, women and activists. There has not been a rapper that has been able to do that since him. He was such an intelligent human being and well-read. He created this thug image that was not his true persona similar to Em creating this bad boy image, which I do not believe is him. Even Tupac's THUG tattoo didn't mean what many people assumed. It stood for the "The Hate U Give" which spoke to the boomerang affect of racism. Forgive me for how my message just went all over the place, but I see a lot of parallels in the lives of Tupac and Eminem. The only difference is the industry got the best of Tupac, thank goodness Em didn't have the same fate. I think Dre saw some Tupac in Em. I remember Tupac's mantra was "I just don't give a f@ck" and it was Em's when he entered the game.
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Post by traci on Mar 12, 2024 13:53:47 GMT -5
This Stan documentary is going to be hilarious. I wonder if he is going to celebrated the Stans in all their levels of fanaticism or is he going to low-key side eye them in this documentary. I can not see Stans coming off looking sane in this things cnsidering what they do. See this was my thought too! em wrote Stan based off of fans that are so obsessed that it borders on lunacy. There’s stans on twitter jumping up and down begging to be on it but “Stan” isn’t meant to be a positive thing. Considering he is basically a recluse, I assumed it would be like “I appreciate you but can you back off, look what you’re doing” kinda thing 😬 Like I love him and I enjoy conversing about him but I’m not a STAN Stan, some people really do do some crazy things and that has to be quite scary. Like the girl that had all the tattoos, she seems sweet and normal enough but I can’t imagine what I’d feel if somebody did that for me. Agree - a stan STAN is a nicer name for stalker lol. i was watching a TMZ special about a month or two ago about celebrity stalkers, and it’s scary what the stalkers do, what celebs go through, and how they try to protect themselves. Most people on the show weren’t A+++ famous, and I can only imagine it’s worse. If his Stan Doc is anything like that, it was interesting.
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Post by miarose on Mar 13, 2024 9:50:18 GMT -5
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Post by kelllly416 on Mar 13, 2024 10:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by thisman85 on Mar 13, 2024 10:11:13 GMT -5
Lol was just about to post this! What if it's a bait and switch for a new Em album 😂
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Post by kelllly416 on Mar 13, 2024 10:15:16 GMT -5
Lol was just about to post this! What if it's a bait and switch for a new Em album 😂 BE STILL MY BEATING HEART. Imagine???
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