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Post by willowmoonblood on May 30, 2016 12:34:46 GMT -5
I always blamed the whole "clothes" incident on Em being short tempered and Alania being a teenage girl. My oldest daughter just turned 18 and trust me she was hell on wells from the age of about 11-16 and I was public enemy #1. She just now really started to act like my little girl again.  So I could see her lashing out at Em if he was the one acting like a "parent" and Kim was acting more like a "best friend" Maybe Alania didn't post about Em being sober because of the incident with Kim? Maybe she thought it would be like rubbing it in Kim's face? I myself always wondered about the extent of his relationship with Whitney...I mean if Kim was in a very serious relationship with someone else and had a child with that person, I always wondered if he started to act as a father figure to Whitney and Em just kinda stepped back. No facts to prove this it was just something I wondered about. On the old board before it disappeared I was reading back on some very old posts back from during the second divorce. There was someone posting that stated she lived across the street from Kim and she would post that Em would pick up Alania and Hailie but not Whitney. So that always made me wonder when did Em actually step up for Whitney if ever? Than again I know there were pictures floating around a few years ago of Nate and Whitney at Kim's house? So I guess somewhere along the line they all became a big happy family  I wonder how close Alaina feels to Marshall these days and if she was actually legally adopted by him--although it is quite apparent to me that from Em's perspective, she is his daughter. Period. (And we actually have no proof that Alaina doesn't think of him as Dad either.) But I don't know why anyone would question his relationship with Whitney. She is his adoptive daughter. He has raised her. Her bio father apparently didn't want much or anything to do with her. And the man Kim was apparently living with and involved with after that was her son's father (different Baby Daddy). Truth is, we don't really know squat--except Marshall clearly loves and is absolutely devoted to all three of those girls--and would do anything in the world for them. I agree, I am sorry I didn't mean to come across as if I was questioning Em devotion of any of his girls. It was just things I wonder about when I don't have anything else to occupy my mind LOL. Like I stated before the reason I even thought about it was those post I seen from Kim's neighbor on the other board. It made me start thinking although we had seen legal papers regarding Alania I had never seen anything legal regarding Whitney. I know that doesn't mean anything most family court documents are not made public. Legal or not though does not make a father. I was reared by a step father who had no legal obligation to me you could not tell me or him that he was not my father though. I assumed that Alania was still close to Em, wasn't she at the Football game he attended on New Years Eve? I have to give all the girls credit, you can find pictures of them together and at times with Kim on the net but you NEVER see any recent ones of them with their dad. Kinda sad that they can not be like most girls their age and share pictures of their entire family on social media. |
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 30, 2016 12:39:15 GMT -5
This is my first post on the new board and I don't want to start some kind of bullshit but I do believe that Em and Kim are close again. It must not even be sex but maybe really close friends and I fear he might be back on pills. I don't got any prove, so don't ask me for any. But when he looked weird leaving Jimmys wedding I already had a bad feeling. Then Alaina didn't post about him being sober on April 20th this year and I think she did every year. And then there were people from Michigan on Facebook claiming he is back on pills. In no way, shape or form do I believe Em is back on pills. I believe he has been truly clean and sober since 4/20/08. You can tell he lives his recovery program. It's far more likely that he still struggles with mental health issues like OCD, Aspergers, PTSD, depression and/or an eating disorder. I don't think he looked weird leaving Jimmy Iovine's wedding. He was sitting in a car with a paparazzi flash in his face. People in Detroit apparently like to start all kinds of rumors too. What do they really know? And he was more open with fans probably because he thought it was the thing to do or he wanted to do something nice for them. He appeared just about as far as you can get from looking and acting like he did in in his crazy, drugged out days in those Argentina pics and videos. He looked stiff, uncomfortable, and awkward in all those photos with fans. Now if we'd seen him with his tongue hanging out of his mouth and mooning the camera, I might agree with you. And he looked and sounded very healthy, happy, and on point at all the Lolla concerts a couple of months ago. I totally agree with everything you stated, I suffer from anxiety and I often times feel inside the way Em looks in pictures of him out in public or with people he does not know.  Em seems to be in a good place in his life, I assumed the public appearances and outreach to fans was more PR than anything, he looked really uncomfortable during it all. He seems to be more at home on stage and with his friends. |
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Post by me on May 30, 2016 13:02:54 GMT -5
Alaina dedicated a 12 steps tattoo to her "mother and father" a couple of years ago, and I think she meant Em and Kim ?
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Post by GG102 on May 30, 2016 13:24:43 GMT -5
We really need a juicy EM tidbit as this thread is getting to be "the same ole, same ole." LOL! EM thumped Alaina when she was 10 years old because he felt she was dressing inappropriately for school. At least that's how I remember the story. It's like 12 years later and what "father" hasn't, whether it's right or wrong, thumped their kid in one way or another. And, yes, EMs drug/alcohol use was starting to get out of control way back when. Personally, I think EM is on the straight and narrow. And, sure, some people equate violence with passion when it comes to sex, but that doesn't mean the sex is good or fulfilling or that it lasts more than 15 minutes. I think EM is trying to rise about the krill and I think he's doing a good job. I agree and like your post... Except what does "trying to rise about the krill" mean?? Krill live in the sea and are bottom feeders. |
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Post by kat531 on May 30, 2016 14:30:59 GMT -5
I agree and like your post... Except what does "trying to rise about the krill" mean?? Krill live in the sea and are bottom feeders. I still have no idea what you're talking about. But that's okay, haha. Not the first time and likely won't be the last. Sometimes I think we speak two different languages and we're both native English speakers from the U.S. ;-) |
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Post by nelly on May 30, 2016 22:57:37 GMT -5
First off, I want to say congrats and thanks for the new message board! It was sad to see Shadycamp close down but I'm glad that this new platform was created, honestly couldn't be bothered to look for the latest news in a thousand different places lol. Kudos to you ladies for having the patience to keep this place alive! And sorry for the long post ahead!
I've been a fan of Eminem for about 15 years and if there is one thing I know for sure is that we know close to nothing about his current personal life. We used to get most of the information from his interviews and music but he's been so secretive about everything since their second divorce. I believed Kim when she went on the radio and exposed his drug use but most of his hardcore fans swore she was making it all up out of spite back then. I don't blame them, there was no evidence to corroborate that accusation. The fact that he was able to hide this huge chunk of his life for about 4 years (and not even mention it in his autobiography) is quite impressive and just proves to us that we can't rely on gossip because the people in his circle are super loyal.
I think that's why most popular fan boards pretty much died down circa 2006. There is almost nothing to gossip about, no reliable sources. And then we find out out of nowhere that Kim was involved in a DUI/suicide attempt, what, 6/7 months after the fact? Not one word about this massive info on Facebook or whatever gossip source people rely on? That just shows me that social media gossip is mostly bullshit or just stuff people extrapolate from the occasional slip up from their kids online. I'd love to know who are these people that know for a fact that he is back on drugs but didn't know that Kim drove into a pole.
I have to say, it was heartbreaking to hear Kim's latest Mojo interview. She obviously has a lot on her plate and hated having to share her mistakes on a public platform. From all accounts, she never wanted to be famous and obviously has trust issues when it comes to confiding in friends which can only exacerbate her depressive state. I guess having people you considered family write a tell all book about you will do that to you. I used to think that suicide was a selfish act but after going through my own depression phase filled with suicide ideation a few years ago, I have a whole different perspective on the subject. When I contemplated suicide, life just became meaningless. Didn't matter that I had friends and family that loved me and that I loved, at that point I had completely lost interest in life itself. Nothing would excite me, I would try super hard to enjoy what I had but it's like something in my head was just off. Took me a few months to get out of that funk but it had to come from me. I never even came close to actually committing suicide so I can only imagine her state of mind when she drank a bottle of Malibu and aimed for that pole. I don't think a jail sentence or rehab will do anything to help her. If anything, it could push her into the edge even more, one more reason to think that life is just one obstacle after the next. She will have to face the consequences for her actions but it's nothing to rejoice about. I get why people would be upset, it was reckless and she could have hurt someone else but I will give her the benefit of the doubt when she says she purposely chose that road because she knew it was deserted. It's just speculation but I think she chose to commit suicide that way because she didn't want her kids to think she killed herself. It could easily be interpreted as a car accident.
It's nice to hear that her family is supportive, hopefully that will give her the motivation to get better. It doesn't surprise me that Eminem is sympathetic, he also has a history of self destructive behavior and suicidal thoughts. If you've lived through it, you can't help but empathize.
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2016 1:09:23 GMT -5
First off, I want to say congrats and thanks for the new message board! It was sad to see Shadycamp close down but I'm glad that this new platform was created, honestly couldn't be bothered to look for the latest news in a thousand different places lol. Kudos to you ladies for having the patience to keep this place alive! And sorry for the long post ahead! I've been a fan of Eminem for about 15 years and if there is one thing I know for sure is that we know close to nothing about his current personal life. We used to get most of the information from his interviews and music but he's been so secretive about everything since their second divorce. I believed Kim when she went on the radio and exposed his drug use but most of his hardcore fans swore she was making it all up out of spite back then. I don't blame them, there was no evidence to corroborate that accusation. The fact that he was able to hide this huge chunk of his life for about 4 years (and not even mention it in his autobiography) is quite impressive and just proves to us that we can't rely on gossip because the people in his circle are super loyal. I think that's why most popular fan boards pretty much died down circa 2006. There is almost nothing to gossip about, no reliable sources. And then we find out out of nowhere that Kim was involved in a DUI/suicide attempt, what, 6/7 months after the fact? Not one word about this massive info on Facebook or whatever gossip source people rely on? That just shows me that social media gossip is mostly bullshit or just stuff people extrapolate from the occasional slip up from their kids online. I'd love to know who are these people that know for a fact that he is back on drugs but didn't know that Kim drove into a pole. I have to say, it was heartbreaking to hear Kim's latest Mojo interview. She obviously has a lot on her plate and hated having to share her mistakes on a public platform. From all accounts, she never wanted to be famous and obviously has trust issues when it comes to confiding in friends which can only exacerbate her depressive state. I guess having people you considered family write a tell all book about you will do that to you. I used to think that suicide was a selfish act but after going through my own depression phase filled with suicide ideation a few years ago, I have a whole different perspective on the subject. When I contemplated suicide, life just became meaningless. Didn't matter that I had friends and family that loved me and that I loved, at that point I had completely lost interest in life itself. Nothing would excite me, I would try super hard to enjoy what I had but it's like something in my head was just off. Took me a few months to get out of that funk but it had to come from me. I never even came close to actually committing suicide so I can only imagine her state of mind when she drank a bottle of Malibu and aimed for that pole. I don't think a jail sentence or rehab will do anything to help her. If anything, it could push her into the edge even more, one more reason to think that life is just one obstacle after the next. She will have to face the consequences for her actions but it's nothing to rejoice about. I get why people would be upset, it was reckless and she could have hurt someone else but I will give her the benefit of the doubt when she says she purposely chose that road because she knew it was deserted. It's just speculation but I think she chose to commit suicide that way because she didn't want her kids to think she killed herself. It could easily be interpreted as a car accident. It's nice to hear that her family is supportive, hopefully that will give her the motivation to get better. It doesn't surprise me that Eminem is sympathetic, he also has a history of self destructive behavior and suicidal thoughts. If you've lived through it, you can't help but empathize. Good point. If there were really any insiders someone would've mentioned the Kim DUI before it went public half a year later. Em runs a tight ship. |
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Post by tcat on May 31, 2016 1:22:25 GMT -5
First off, I want to say congrats and thanks for the new message board! It was sad to see Shadycamp close down but I'm glad that this new platform was created, honestly couldn't be bothered to look for the latest news in a thousand different places lol. Kudos to you ladies for having the patience to keep this place alive! And sorry for the long post ahead! I've been a fan of Eminem for about 15 years and if there is one thing I know for sure is that we know close to nothing about his current personal life. We used to get most of the information from his interviews and music but he's been so secretive about everything since their second divorce. I believed Kim when she went on the radio and exposed his drug use but most of his hardcore fans swore she was making it all up out of spite back then. I don't blame them, there was no evidence to corroborate that accusation. The fact that he was able to hide this huge chunk of his life for about 4 years (and not even mention it in his autobiography) is quite impressive and just proves to us that we can't rely on gossip because the people in his circle are super loyal. I think that's why most popular fan boards pretty much died down circa 2006. There is almost nothing to gossip about, no reliable sources. And then we find out out of nowhere that Kim was involved in a DUI/suicide attempt, what, 6/7 months after the fact? Not one word about this massive info on Facebook or whatever gossip source people rely on? That just shows me that social media gossip is mostly bullshit or just stuff people extrapolate from the occasional slip up from their kids online. I'd love to know who are these people that know for a fact that he is back on drugs but didn't know that Kim drove into a pole. I have to say, it was heartbreaking to hear Kim's latest Mojo interview. She obviously has a lot on her plate and hated having to share her mistakes on a public platform. From all accounts, she never wanted to be famous and obviously has trust issues when it comes to confiding in friends which can only exacerbate her depressive state. I guess having people you considered family write a tell all book about you will do that to you. I used to think that suicide was a selfish act but after going through my own depression phase filled with suicide ideation a few years ago, I have a whole different perspective on the subject. When I contemplated suicide, life just became meaningless. Didn't matter that I had friends and family that loved me and that I loved, at that point I had completely lost interest in life itself. Nothing would excite me, I would try super hard to enjoy what I had but it's like something in my head was just off. Took me a few months to get out of that funk but it had to come from me. I never even came close to actually committing suicide so I can only imagine her state of mind when she drank a bottle of Malibu and aimed for that pole. I don't think a jail sentence or rehab will do anything to help her. If anything, it could push her into the edge even more, one more reason to think that life is just one obstacle after the next. She will have to face the consequences for her actions but it's nothing to rejoice about. I get why people would be upset, it was reckless and she could have hurt someone else but I will give her the benefit of the doubt when she says she purposely chose that road because she knew it was deserted . It's just speculation but I think she chose to commit suicide that way because she didn't want her kids to think she killed herself. It could easily be interpreted as a car accident.It's nice to hear that her family is supportive, hopefully that will give her the motivation to get better. It doesn't surprise me that Eminem is sympathetic, he also has a history of self destructive behavior and suicidal thoughts. If you've lived through it, you can't help but empathize. I never thought of that. I wondered why she would choose to drive her car into a pole as a means of killing herself. Why not just take a bottle of pills or use a gun. Not wanting her kids to know would actually make sense. |
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Post by sparrow on May 31, 2016 7:59:09 GMT -5
I loved your whole post, nelly . I never thought of the possibility that she tried to stage the suicide attempt as an accident. That makes perfect sense. I also felt really bad for her on the Mojo interview, and I think it's really too bad she and Marshall couldn't work things out. I mean, luckily it led to my own love affair with Eminem. *Looks over lovingly at Em tied to the bed pretending to be terrified and kidnapped, he's so cute*. But seriously, if they weren't so toxic to one another Em could have trusted that she wasn't with him for fame. Obviously she didn't want to be famous and she only cares about money in that she wants enough to provide for her family. It's clear that being super rich is nice but the price is steep, especially for someone who already has trust issues. I felt like Mojo and crew were being condescending to her like "Kiiiimm, are you getting hellllp?" Like it was just fake concern (but maybe that was just me). Also, she WAS clean for 10 years and people are treating her like she's just a dirty drunk who never got better. People get triggered and relapse all the time; it doesn't make them bad. Not to mention it's not like addicts are the only people out there who make shitty decisions. Lots of sober people do terrible things. It's humanity, not substances. One good thing that came out of it...we can finally stop debating if she has a son or not. |
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Post by cally on May 31, 2016 8:03:00 GMT -5
nelly well that was a good point you stated. And I know depression from really close too and I think I may be going through a small phase right now and I feel really bad for Kim, imagine she must feel really alone and I just wanna hug her and I agree with your post 100%. Truth is we don´t have a clue about anything and most of the times we just speculate about everything and everyone and those are people we´re judging (I mean in a good and bad way too), people with real feelings and a lot of things going on in their life that we don´t even know about. In the end, I just hope Kim, Em, the girls and everyone have the support they need from anyone that is needed. PS: sorry to hear you´re gone through something like this, I know how it feels and I´m glad you passed it 
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Post by sparrow on May 31, 2016 8:12:51 GMT -5
In no way, shape or form do I believe Em is back on pills. I believe he has been truly clean and sober since 4/20/08. You can tell he lives his recovery program. It's far more likely that he still struggles with mental health issues like OCD, Aspergers, PTSD, depression and/or an eating disorder. I don't think he looked weird leaving Jimmy Iovine's wedding. He was sitting in a car with a paparazzi flash in his face. People in Detroit apparently like to start all kinds of rumors too. What do they really know? And he was more open with fans probably because he thought it was the thing to do or he wanted to do something nice for them. He appeared just about as far as you can get from looking and acting like he did in in his crazy, drugged out days in those Argentina pics and videos. He looked stiff, uncomfortable, and awkward in all those photos with fans. Now if we'd seen him with his tongue hanging out of his mouth and mooning the camera, I might agree with you. And he looked and sounded very healthy, happy, and on point at all the Lolla concerts a couple of months ago. I totally agree with everything you stated, I suffer from anxiety and I often times feel inside the way Em looks in pictures of him out in public or with people he does not know. Em seems to be in a good place in his life, I assumed the public appearances and outreach to fans was more PR than anything, he looked really uncomfortable during it all. He seems to be more at home on stage and with his friends. Yeah, me too. I look like Mr. Bean in my photos I'm so awkward. It's just anxiety.  |
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 31, 2016 10:39:29 GMT -5
nelly well that was a good point you stated. And I know depression from really close too and I think I may be going through a small phase right now and I feel really bad for Kim, imagine she must feel really alone and I just wanna hug her and I agree with your post 100%. Truth is we don´t have a clue about anything and most of the times we just speculate about everything and everyone and those are people we´re judging (I mean in a good and bad way too), people with real feelings and a lot of things going on in their life that we don´t even know about. In the end, I just hope Kim, Em, the girls and everyone have the support they need from anyone that is needed. PS: sorry to hear you´re gone through something like this, I know how it feels and I´m glad you passed it I hope you start to feel better Cally. |
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Post by willowmoonblood on May 31, 2016 10:41:47 GMT -5
I totally agree with everything you stated, I suffer from anxiety and I often times feel inside the way Em looks in pictures of him out in public or with people he does not know. Em seems to be in a good place in his life, I assumed the public appearances and outreach to fans was more PR than anything, he looked really uncomfortable during it all. He seems to be more at home on stage and with his friends. Yeah, me too. I look like Mr. Bean in my photos I'm so awkward. It's just anxiety. LOL I wonder how many of Em's fans actually relate to him because they also suffer from anxiety? My husband doesn't understand why I obsess (maybe not actually obsess) over Em so much but I always think it is his childhood and the appearance that he is just as social awkward as I am that draws me to him |
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Post by cally on May 31, 2016 14:13:15 GMT -5
Yeah, me too. I look like Mr. Bean in my photos I'm so awkward. It's just anxiety. LOL I wonder how many of Em's fans actually relate to him because they also suffer from anxiety? My husband doesn't understand why I obsess (maybe not actually obsess) over Em so much but I always think it is his childhood and the appearance that he is just as social awkward as I am that draws me to him Well that's is exactly why I relate to him. And thanks! I'll be just fine |
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Post by nelly on May 31, 2016 19:21:01 GMT -5
I loved your whole post, nelly . I never thought of the possibility that she tried to stage the suicide attempt as an accident. That makes perfect sense. I also felt really bad for her on the Mojo interview, and I think it's really too bad she and Marshall couldn't work things out. I mean, luckily it led to my own love affair with Eminem. *Looks over lovingly at Em tied to the bed pretending to be terrified and kidnapped, he's so cute*. But seriously, if they weren't so toxic to one another Em could have trusted that she wasn't with him for fame. Obviously she didn't want to be famous and she only cares about money in that she wants enough to provide for her family. It's clear that being super rich is nice but the price is steep, especially for someone who already has trust issues. I felt like Mojo and crew were being condescending to her like "Kiiiimm, are you getting hellllp?" Like it was just fake concern (but maybe that was just me). Also, she WAS clean for 10 years and people are treating her like she's just a dirty drunk who never got better. People get triggered and relapse all the time; it doesn't make them bad. Not to mention it's not like addicts are the only people out there who make shitty decisions. Lots of sober people do terrible things. It's humanity, not substances. One good thing that came out of it...we can finally stop debating if she has a son or not. Cool to hear you guys agree with my points. Sadly, a lot of people choose this suicide method to conceal their intent in an attempt to make it easier on the loved ones. It rarely gets ruled out as a suicide because there is almost no way to prove it. It's funny that you mention the financial situation because a lot of times people with money have this feeling of emptiness. When you realize that money is not going to fix your emotional issues, you have no choice but to face them. Without the "distraction" of having to work hard and earn a living, they sort of stare at you right in the face. At least Eminem has a passion that he is able to focus his energy on, in her case it must be harder to fill the void. Lol so I guess you are to blame for this long wait in between albums? Hope you are awarding him some studio time here and there. More seriously, it must be hard for them to find new partners after the long history they've had and their trust issues. Before that interview, I guess I never realized that Kim was experiencing sort of the same level of paranoia and distrust for the people around her as Em. Quite sad really to live your life so guarded. It's cool that they have reached a good place in their relationship and that they can support each other, especially for their kids! |
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So I could see her lashing out at Em if he was the one acting like a "parent" and Kim was acting more like a "best friend" 
Em seems to be in a good place in his life, I assumed the public appearances and outreach to fans was more PR than anything, he looked really uncomfortable during it all. He seems to be more at home on stage and with his friends. 
