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Post by brianna on Mar 20, 2017 20:47:24 GMT -5
Exactly -- she voluntarily put in for additional tests, all came bavk negative, and she's requested to be on Soberlink just to avoid this I love to watch people jump here -- I didn't post before when people were SO SURE she was gonna get whacked in court. Then, when a judge rules that he's impressed wit how she went above and beyond we have people here insisting that the judge was somehow bought off. Like, lol. The woman's personal court shit has been leaked to the press multiple times, she's been ruled innocent of meddling by a judge, and we still have people here salivating over the idea that she's some pampered immature party bitch. Again. Bear in mind -- she wasn't arrested in a drunk driving accident in a car with a bunch of gals after a coke and hookers party. She was found crashed ALONE in her car, having drunk a giant bottle of liquor, and we have the audio of her immediately admitting to what she disc AND medical records proving she told them she was trying to kill herself This wasn't her wanting to be high and party. This was someone turning back to drugs after personal hardship, much of which we don't know. We know about her dad bring sick and her son with autism because she says it-- but she also said you lose friend, so a friend of hers might have died Also. She was going to court regardless of any news media presence, and yet there was leaking if her info to the press. That's why she went on Mojo, only after people were again bringing her up. She didn't try to make a public bid for sympathy, we haven't heard boo from the woman for nearly a decade until this. Honestly. Not gonna lie, it did look fishy to have back to back diluted tests and because of her history it's only natural to assume the worst. I don't know enough about drug testing to know how often this happens but after watching that video I'm quite impressed myself that she asked to be tested more frequently and that she has passed all the tests. It doesn't look like she tried to hide something if she is willing to go to this length to clear her name. Can't really blame the press for doing their job. I don't think her case should have been sealed to begin with, that's what started the outrage. In the legal system, people are supposed to be treated the same, regardless of their situation. It doesn't surprise me that somebody working in the court system would get pissed off enough to leak her info. I don't know if people want to see her fail or enjoy watching her demise per se. I think it's more so that people here are protective of Em and feel like she is negatively affecting his life. Again, because of her history it's only normal to expect the worst. Let's hope she proves everyone wrong! It's typical for medical info to be sealed. It's part of the protections we as a society try to provide. Otherwise, people with mental illnesses who've been hospitalized would never be able to get jobs
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Post by alessandra on Mar 20, 2017 21:29:28 GMT -5
brianna Kim has always been a polarizing topic among fans. I do feel people are less forgiving with her and tend to judge her more harshly than Em for the same type of mistakes but I guess it's just human nature to side with /defend people you idolize. It's okay to all have different opinions, it would get pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything. Yes, I was so confused to see a topic on Kim where everyone seemed to agree for a good 15 pages!! Lmao! Well that is still probably a record! On a lighter note, Kim and Whitney are twins!!
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Post by willowmoonblood on Mar 20, 2017 22:15:05 GMT -5
brianna Kim has always been a polarizing topic among fans. I do feel people are less forgiving with her and tend to judge her more harshly than Em for the same type of mistakes but I guess it's just human nature to side with /defend people you idolize. It's okay to all have different opinions, it would get pretty boring if everyone agreed on everything. Yes, I was so confused to see a topic on Kim where everyone seemed to agree for a good 15 pages!! Lmao! Well that is still probably a record! On a lighter note, Kim and Whitney are twins!! Yes they are I thought I was the only one who thought that LOL
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Post by kat531 on Mar 20, 2017 22:44:04 GMT -5
Why are people saying Kim and Whitney are "twins"?
Am I the only one who really doesn't care much about what Kim is up to in her life? I'm really only interested in as much as she minght impact Em and his life. Otherwise, I couldn't really care less. The subject of Em and Kim's relationship has always bored me to death.
Anyway, I am glad to know though that she may not have fallen completely off the wagon.
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Post by tcat on Mar 20, 2017 22:49:30 GMT -5
Half you people honestly disgust me. The judge straight up said diluted tests can be accidental, and confirmed her story -- that she voluntarily did additional tests by switching to Soberlink to back up that she's clean And you're still bitching about "chances" How many did Em have? He could have easily been in jail for his addiction, he went for just as long but his people could cover it up. Addiction is a disease, relapse is the rule rather than the exception. You're all hopelessly naive of you think he hasn't relapsed since he got clean Seriously -- the woman did exactly what she said, she voluntarily did other tests to show she didn't dilute the tests herself, but you're still clinging to the idea she's guilty And no one has mentioned -- who leaked her diluted test results to the press? Half of you love to go on about how she's "talking about media pressure, but no one cares about her like they did when Em was huge." Oh? Then why have there TWICE been leaks to the press about her case? And why have they been covered by news outlets as if they're major news? It might not been Associated Press and CNN like back on the day, but imagine your home town news showing up at your house with cameras to question if you lied about probation? People were all ready to grill her as a selfish drunk about the crash, until she pointed out that she chose an abandoned road for a suicide attempt Think about it. You're literally here talking about whether it's true she was abused as a child, about if she's the "dumbest blonde on earth" for faking tests, and how she needs to get her act together. Just because this isn't as extreme as bavk in the day doesn't mean it's not still painful. You think Em and his camp aren't aware of this? You think Shady Camp got shut down as an accident? Seriously. The utter lack of compassion for adducts pisses me off. It's a serious disease and everyone relapses. She's clearly trying to get clean, and she's done it before. People love to pretend they're all balanced and fair about Kim, but this shows exactly how bullshit half of you are Also -- again, the idea that addicts should be arrested rather than helped is one of the biggest problems in our society. I'm all for taking the woman's license until she's proven clean -- you don't get to operate a vehicle that can cause serious harm if you have shown yourself likely to cause harm to others. But struggling to get clean is a medical issue, not a character one. God. I've tried not to comment, but honestly Once she was ordered back into court, it is public record. There were no "leaks". Same with the original accident. When she was arrested, it is public record. The reason it was a news story is because the records were sealed and people thought she was getting preferential treatment. We now know she had them sealed because of the suicide attempt. But none of this was "leaked". It is all part of the public record. I'm wondering why we haven't seen her mugshot from her arrest.
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Post by tcat on Mar 20, 2017 22:56:36 GMT -5
I'm sure Kim wasn't clean, sorry but that's what I believe, and that her Attorney had her go on "Soberlink" so that she had to stay clean and so that it would reflect favorably, with the Judge, when she went back to court. I don't think this was a conscious decision on Kim's part or she would have done that from day one. And Shady Camp got shut down because the Admin, who was running it, pulled the plug. There's no conspiracy theory, it's the fact. And let's be clear..."Court documents show six of her drug test results were diluted from December 2016 to February 1, 2017, including back to back days in January." Six, not five! And, I'm sure Kim got on "Soberlink" right after Feb. 1st. All good because she probably can't be sober on her own otherwise she wouldn't need this. My understanding of Soberlink is you can do it from home. Meaning, you don't have to go to a lab or see your probation officer. You breathe into the thing and it sends the results to whomever. But how is that accurate? I could just hand my Soberlink to GG102 to blow into for me. How do they know that the person who is supposed to be blowing is actually the one blowing?
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Post by tcat on Mar 20, 2017 22:58:05 GMT -5
stefanie Oh okay, I think it's obvious she was living with Kim but maybe saw Em 2 weekend per months or something. I think people were saying they wish Em is stepping in right now because obviously Kim is not the most adequate parent right now. I hope she is. I also hope her sons father has him since Kim stated his disability was one of her struggles that caused her depression. I am not hoping this because I think she is not a good mother, just hoping she has the time and energy she needs to heal her self so she can be there for her kids. She also said in the Mojo interview that she had no help and was dealing with it on her own. I took that to mean the father is not involved.
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Post by stefanie on Mar 21, 2017 1:54:13 GMT -5
Sorry if that post shows up twice, I already tried to sent it but it didn't show up. Someone talked about Em probably relapsing since 2008 too. If you do believe that, it would have been between April 2015 and now. The last couple of years, Alaina tweeted about Em's sober anniversary. Last time she did so was April 20th 2015. So that either means she did forget about it/not care after all that years or that he relapsed since then. I do NOT believe that he relapsed so but that Alaina just didn't tweet about it in 2016 for whatever reason. I also do not believe that he relapsed earlier on because then they wouldn't count from April 20th 2008 but the new date he got sober again. So no, I DO believe Em stayed sober since 2008.
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Post by britanny on Mar 21, 2017 3:44:34 GMT -5
Why are people saying Kim and Whitney are "twins"? Am I the only one who really doesn't care much about what Kim is up to in her life? I'm really only interested in as much as she minght impact Em and his life. Otherwise, I couldn't really care less. The subject of Em and Kim's relationship has always bored me to death. Anyway, I am glad to know though that she may not have fallen completely off the wagon. Does these gems bore you to death?
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Post by GG102 on Mar 21, 2017 7:51:06 GMT -5
I'm sure Kim wasn't clean, sorry but that's what I believe, and that her Attorney had her go on "Soberlink" so that she had to stay clean and so that it would reflect favorably, with the Judge, when she went back to court. I don't think this was a conscious decision on Kim's part or she would have done that from day one. And Shady Camp got shut down because the Admin, who was running it, pulled the plug. There's no conspiracy theory, it's the fact. And let's be clear..."Court documents show six of her drug test results were diluted from December 2016 to February 1, 2017, including back to back days in January." Six, not five! And, I'm sure Kim got on "Soberlink" right after Feb. 1st. All good because she probably can't be sober on her own otherwise she wouldn't need this. My understanding of Soberlink is you can do it from home. Meaning, you don't have to go to a lab or see your probation officer. You breathe into the thing and it sends the results to whomever. But how is that accurate? I could just hand my Soberlink to GG102 to blow into for me. How do they know that the person who is supposed to be blowing is actually the one blowing? Happy to fly to wherever you are, tcat , and blow into your Soberlink so the authorities don't cart you off to jail! That's what Shady Syndicaters do for fellow Board members... Here you go, so don't abuse it!
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Post by stefanie on Mar 21, 2017 7:57:22 GMT -5
My understanding of Soberlink is you can do it from home. Meaning, you don't have to go to a lab or see your probation officer. You breathe into the thing and it sends the results to whomever. But how is that accurate? I could just hand my Soberlink to GG102 to blow into for me. How do they know that the person who is supposed to be blowing is actually the one blowing? Happy to fly to wherever you are, tcat , and blow into your Soberlink so the authorities don't cart you off to jail! That's what Shady Syndicaters do for fellow Board members... Here you go, so don't abuse it! I just saw it got facial recognition. Does it use it while you are breathing into it or like before/afterwards. When it's doing it while you use it, it should be difficult to cheat.
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Post by kat531 on Mar 21, 2017 8:05:27 GMT -5
Why are people saying Kim and Whitney are "twins"? Am I the only one who really doesn't care much about what Kim is up to in her life? I'm really only interested in as much as she minght impact Em and his life. Otherwise, I couldn't really care less. The subject of Em and Kim's relationship has always bored me to death. Anyway, I am glad to know though that she may not have fallen completely off the wagon. Does these gems bore you to death? Actually never listened to either song and don't plan to. Besides, there is a difference between appreciating his art and over-hashing certain topics on online forums.
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Post by stefanie on Mar 21, 2017 8:10:08 GMT -5
Does these gems bore you to death? Actually never listened to either song and don't plan to. Besides, there is a difference between appreciating his art and over-hashing certain topics on online forums.
How is it even technically possible you never listend to them. Even if you didn't do with any Intention, do you skip them on the Album/have them deleted from your mobile Downloads?
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Post by kat531 on Mar 21, 2017 9:00:06 GMT -5
Actually never listened to either song and don't plan to. Besides, there is a difference between appreciating his art and over-hashing certain topics on online forums.
How is it even technically possible you never listend to them. Even if you didn't do with any Intention, do you skip them on the Album/have them deleted from your mobile Downloads?
I intentionally don't listen to them. Kim doesn't come on the edited version of MMLP, so there is no need to skip it. I also never bought SSLP, only a few songs from it.
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Post by me on Mar 21, 2017 9:14:39 GMT -5
Sorry if that post shows up twice, I already tried to sent it but it didn't show up. Someone talked about Em probably relapsing since 2008 too. If you do believe that, it would have been between April 2015 and now. The last couple of years, Alaina tweeted about Em's sober anniversary. Last time she did so was April 20th 2015. So that either means she did forget about it/not care after all that years or that he relapsed since then. I do NOT believe that he relapsed so but that Alaina just didn't tweet about it in 2016 for whatever reason. I also do not believe that he relapsed earlier on because then they wouldn't count from April 20th 2008 but the new date he got sober again. So no, I DO believe Em stayed sober since 2008. There are a lot of people from Em's camp, well his friends, that have tweeted about his sobriety every year, also last year. Latests was around his birthday, something how he's doing so well, so I do believe he's still sober.
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