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Post by stefanie on Mar 20, 2017 2:13:32 GMT -5
I do believe the stories about sexual abuse with Kim/Dawn and Em are true. No idea if Kims mom is an alcoholic but judging from her Facebook she is into gambling. Em was sexually abused?? I know we speculated about this a while ago but is it true? And I am into science too  Edit: Find it, such a good scientist spy I am
There is no evidence or reliable source for that. I just know the talk about it has been around since the beginning of his career. I guess in the beginning people assumed it because of him being "lower class", having I don't know how many different stepdads, supposedly hating gay people and so on. There also were some talking like they knew for sure but like I said, no evidence. After Insane came out, some fans discussed, that maybe that was the secret Mariah kept talking about. I think she even stopped talking about it after Insane came out (not 100% sure so), so it really might have been the truth. Also if Em was sexually abused by one of his stepdads, it would explain the hate towards his mom, as he maybe thought she didn't protect him enough.
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Post by me on Mar 20, 2017 8:55:15 GMT -5
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Post by stefanie on Mar 20, 2017 8:56:39 GMT -5
Was about to post it. I think it's not fair. She had more chances than most others and keeps messing up. She needs a serious wake up call.
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Post by GG102 on Mar 20, 2017 9:55:31 GMT -5
"Judge says diluted drug tests can be accidental..." Five f**king times?! I think not. Wonder how much the Judge was paid to come up with this conclusion. Talk about preferential treatment!!!
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Post by brianna on Mar 20, 2017 10:01:45 GMT -5
Half you people honestly disgust me.
The judge straight up said diluted tests can be accidental, and confirmed her story -- that she voluntarily did additional tests by switching to Soberlink to back up that she's clean
And you're still bitching about "chances"
How many did Em have? He could have easily been in jail for his addiction, he went for just as long but his people could cover it up. Addiction is a disease, relapse is the rule rather than the exception. You're all hopelessly naive of you think he hasn't relapsed since he got clean
Seriously -- the woman did exactly what she said, she voluntarily did other tests to show she didn't dilute the tests herself, but you're still clinging to the idea she's guilty
And no one has mentioned -- who leaked her diluted test results to the press? Half of you love to go on about how she's "talking about media pressure, but no one cares about her like they did when Em was huge."
Oh? Then why have there TWICE been leaks to the press about her case? And why have they been covered by news outlets as if they're major news? It might not been Associated Press and CNN like back on the day, but imagine your home town news showing up at your house with cameras to question if you lied about probation? People were all ready to grill her as a selfish drunk about the crash, until she pointed out that she chose an abandoned road for a suicide attempt
Think about it. You're literally here talking about whether it's true she was abused as a child, about if she's the "dumbest blonde on earth" for faking tests, and how she needs to get her act together. Just because this isn't as extreme as bavk in the day doesn't mean it's not still painful.
You think Em and his camp aren't aware of this? You think Shady Camp got shut down as an accident?
Seriously. The utter lack of compassion for adducts pisses me off. It's a serious disease and everyone relapses. She's clearly trying to get clean, and she's done it before. People love to pretend they're all balanced and fair about Kim, but this shows exactly how bullshit half of you are
Also -- again, the idea that addicts should be arrested rather than helped is one of the biggest problems in our society. I'm all for taking the woman's license until she's proven clean -- you don't get to operate a vehicle that can cause serious harm if you have shown yourself likely to cause harm to others. But struggling to get clean is a medical issue, not a character one.
God. I've tried not to comment, but honestly
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Post by sparrow on Mar 20, 2017 10:02:23 GMT -5
I am probably being incredibly naive, but the article said she's also given hair and blood samples, which are very hard to fake, plus she's now doing testing with soberlink (super fancy breathalyzer)....so, she's doing something. But like GG said, FIVE diluted pee tests is a lot to brush off as an accident.
This is anecdotal, but I've taken a lot of drug tests for employment purposes, including one company that did random testing every few months , and in 10 years I never got a diluted result. It can happen, but it's not overly common.
Brianna, I totally agree with you incarceration is not the best option for addicts whether or not they endangered others. I know that's controversial, but IMO distinctions should be made between someone committing a crime in cold blood versus someone who is making decisions out of mental illness and addiction. That's just me. I do think, respectfully, this is a celebrity gossip board and people are going to talk. I'm not saying it's good, but I don't think there's anything exceptionally malicious about this board; in fact, his family is usually left out of the fray. Kim's DUI was a very dramatic public incident, so folks are talking.
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Post by alessandra on Mar 20, 2017 10:09:43 GMT -5
idk how i feel about this situation obviously kim has a problem. She seems like a very strong and matter of fact woman but i really think she needs to stop acting like she is okay when obviously she is not. It seems like Em is raising whitney. Good thing Em loves kids. I am not sure if Kim is an addict per say but i think she likes to party too much. Like it seems like she can't have fun without taking or drinking something. I am not saying you can't party at her age. Of course you can. But i think she needs to slow down a bit. You would think it would be old by now. idk i guess we will see what happens on Monday. I wonder what the courts are going to do. She diluted her pee like 5 times? Thats way too many times to be considered an accident imo Why does everyone think Em raises Whitney. There is no Info that indicates that. What do you mean? You think Em is not involved with Whitney at all? I thought there were a lot of infos indicating he is... |
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Post by stefanie on Mar 20, 2017 10:12:19 GMT -5
Half you people honestly disgust me. The judge straight up said diluted tests can be accidental, and confirmed her story -- that she voluntarily did additional tests by switching to Soberlink to back up that she's clean And you're still bitching about "chances" How many did Em have? He could have easily been in jail for his addiction, he went for just as long but his people could cover it up. Addiction is a disease, relapse is the rule rather than the exception. You're all hopelessly naive of you think he hasn't relapsed since he got clean Seriously -- the woman did exactly what she said, she voluntarily did other tests to show she didn't dilute the tests herself, but you're still clinging to the idea she's guilty And no one has mentioned -- who leaked her diluted test results to the press? Half of you love to go on about how she's "talking about media pressure, but no one cares about her like they did when Em was huge." Oh? Then why have there TWICE been leaks to the press about her case? And why have they been covered by news outlets as if they're major news? It might not been Associated Press and CNN like back on the day, but imagine your home town news showing up at your house with cameras to question if you lied about probation? People were all ready to grill her as a selfish drunk about the crash, until she pointed out that she chose an abandoned road for a suicide attempt Think about it. You're literally here talking about whether it's true she was abused as a child, about if she's the "dumbest blonde on earth" for faking tests, and how she needs to get her act together. Just because this isn't as extreme as bavk in the day doesn't mean it's not still painful. You think Em and his camp aren't aware of this? You think Shady Camp got shut down as an accident? Seriously. The utter lack of compassion for adducts pisses me off. It's a serious disease and everyone relapses. She's clearly trying to get clean, and she's done it before. People love to pretend they're all balanced and fair about Kim, but this shows exactly how bullshit half of you are Also -- again, the idea that addicts should be arrested rather than helped is one of the biggest problems in our society. I'm all for taking the woman's license until she's proven clean -- you don't get to operate a vehicle that can cause serious harm if you have shown yourself likely to cause harm to others. But struggling to get clean is a medical issue, not a character one. God. I've tried not to comment, but honestly
As parts of your post are directed to me I am gonna reply. Yes, I think she should go to jail and rehab because that what should have happend in the first place. She didn't only risk her own life but that of others, no matter if she is suffering addiction or Depression and wanted to kill herself, she easily could have harmed someone else. When I read the article it wasn't updated with the info about her voluntering to do other tests yet. Yes, that's a good sign but that doesn't make the accident any better at all.
Yes, Em did a lot of wrong things will using drugs but he never could have harmed someone else like that. There are no reports that he caused any accidents or anything of that nature. Also when he was on probation he did pills, that's true. And as I know it doesn't make it any better but he at least got prescriptions for them to explain them to his probation officer.
Kim does need help and I think jail time could be part of that help. Last time it happend to her (including rehab) she stayed sober for a couple of years as far as we know.
The Information from court leaked because I think someone from Detroit media is on to her for whatever reason. It's always the same local media outlets reporting about it and it doesn't make it on any big News sites. I guess someone is pissed at her for whatever reason and that's some kind of private war.
I got no idea what happend to Shady Camp, I thought the owner shut it down. But no matter if that's the case or not, I do not believe that Shady Records or someone from Ems Team was behind it being shut down. The board wasn't big and important enough for that.
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Post by stefanie on Mar 20, 2017 10:13:27 GMT -5
Why does everyone think Em raises Whitney. There is no Info that indicates that. What do you mean? You think Em is not involved with Whitney at all? I thought there were a lot of infos indicating he is...
I am not saying he isn't involved in her life. I just think (not know) that she is living with Kim and not him. I think she lived with him before so.
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Post by alessandra on Mar 20, 2017 10:16:37 GMT -5
stefanie Oh okay, I think it's obvious she was living with Kim but maybe saw Em 2 weekend per months or something. I think people were saying they wish Em is stepping in right now because obviously Kim is not the most adequate parent right now.
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Post by stefanie on Mar 20, 2017 10:19:03 GMT -5
stefanie Oh okay, I think it's obvious she was living with Kim but maybe saw Em 2 weekend per months or something. I think people were saying they wish Em is stepping in right now because obviously Kim is not the most adequate parent right now.
I read it like people think she is living with him. I sure do hope he spents enough time with her, especially since the situation with Kim seems to be not that easy.
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Post by GG102 on Mar 20, 2017 10:44:57 GMT -5
I'm sure Kim wasn't clean, sorry but that's what I believe, and that her Attorney had her go on "Soberlink" so that she had to stay clean and so that it would reflect favorably, with the Judge, when she went back to court. I don't think this was a conscious decision on Kim's part or she would have done that from day one.
And Shady Camp got shut down because the Admin, who was running it, pulled the plug. There's no conspiracy theory, it's the fact.
And let's be clear..."Court documents show six of her drug test results were diluted from December 2016 to February 1, 2017, including back to back days in January." Six, not five! And, I'm sure Kim got on "Soberlink" right after Feb. 1st. All good because she probably can't be sober on her own otherwise she wouldn't need this.
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Post by willowmoonblood on Mar 20, 2017 11:02:54 GMT -5
stefanie Oh okay, I think it's obvious she was living with Kim but maybe saw Em 2 weekend per months or something. I think people were saying they wish Em is stepping in right now because obviously Kim is not the most adequate parent right now. I hope she is. I also hope her sons father has him since Kim stated his disability was one of her struggles that caused her depression. I am not hoping this because I think she is not a good mother, just hoping she has the time and energy she needs to heal her self so she can be there for her kids. |
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Post by GG102 on Mar 20, 2017 11:13:09 GMT -5
I think she is a good mother too, willowmoonblood, but it's obvious the woman needs help. I don't believe jail is the solution, but a recovery home would be the best alternative. Alcoholism, attempted suicide, drug abuse, I feel for Kim but she's at the age where only she can choose the path she wants to take. Let's hope she wakes up and smells the coffee! |
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Post by willowmoonblood on Mar 20, 2017 11:25:40 GMT -5
I think she is a good mother too, willowmoonblood, but it's obvious the woman needs help. I don't believe jail is the solution, but a recovery home would be the best alternative. Alcoholism, attempted suicide, drug abuse, I feel for Kim but she's at the age where only she can choose the path she wants to take. Let's hope she wakes up and smells the coffee! I agree. Depression is no joke, I have never been an addict unless it is caffeine lol, but suffering from anxieties and at times depression I can understand the need to find something to shut your mind off. Lucky for me I have a strong support system in my husband. It appears to me from the Mojo interview Kim is everyone elses support system. I can imagine how hard that would be. |
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