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Post by willowmoonblood on Oct 19, 2016 11:29:20 GMT -5
Other people have had worse ,being raised your young life by a alcoholic mother, having to steal food at a age of four with your sister just to get by ,was mentally abused publicly in her marriage ,and as had to deal with the consequences of that ever since with people judging her everyday like yourself but in reality you know nothing about what she is dealing with on a daily basis ,...giving people with mental health issue a bad look ....didn't know people suffering with mental health had a look You can't pigeon hole mental health people rich, poor, young old suffer from this there isn't a look Everyone recognizes that Kim has not had an easy life. Kim had no control over her childhood and the things that happened to her and her sister. she does however have control over her adult life and the things that happen. You can get control of your life and the demons you battle. Millions of people do it all the time. Making excuses for a middle aged woman and the poor decisions she makes because she had a bad childhood only enables people in her situation. When you are surrounded by enablers, it is difficult to see that you are the problem. I know because my family enabled me, "poor Tcat, she's having a really rough time right now. Don't hold it against her that she's being a bitch". It wasn't until my family and friends got fed up with my self loathing shit that I recognized that only I could fix my problem and I do have the ability to fix my problems. I'm a much happy person today than I was 5-6 years ago and I am thankful that my family used some "tough love" to get my ass in gear. Like I said before, only Kim can fix kim. what you wrote here and the post above was just what I was thinking. I really do feel for Kim she has had a hard time of it. Most of us have to be honest. She can only get well when she chooses to get well. I think her mother is enabling her to be honest. I have to admit as well, I also have mental issues, I fight them each and everyday and at times I slip in my ability to keep my issues under control. My husband though calls me on it. He will tell me to chill the F out and think about what I am saying or doing. But 95% of the time it is my own ability that keeps me focused on what I need to do and what I need to be for my husband and kids. I can't just lie in bed all day because I don't want to get up and go to work or I want to just daydream my life away because I have no problems in my daydreams. I will often times sit and think how much easier it would be to drink or take drugs or anything that will "quite my mind" but I don't because I have responsibilities. I know I am making huge assumptions here but I honestly think that maybe people are giving her the "tough love" route now. I just feel that someone , her lawyer, her daughters someone would have said, "maybe you should do your hair or wear this to court even if you don't feel like it" . That someone would have been there with her to support her when she was in court the only one there was her mom. |
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Post by schmidt on Oct 19, 2016 12:57:07 GMT -5
I wonder if Kim really ever got clean and sober. Until we heard about the car accident, I was under the impression, that she was doing great, and had gotten clean and sober just like Marshall. Now I am wondering if she`s been like this the whole time. Really feel sorry for her kids. I can only imagine how they have been trying to hide their mothers alcohol problems. Especially since they are in the public eye.
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Post by tcat on Oct 19, 2016 14:16:32 GMT -5
I wonder if Kim really ever got clean and sober. Until we heard about the car accident, I was under the impression, that she was doing great, and had gotten clean and sober just like Marshall. Now I am wondering if she`s been like this the whole time. Really feel sorry for her kids. I can only imagine how they have been trying to hide their mothers alcohol problems. Especially since they are in the public eye. Didn't Royce's wife allude to some problems with Kim a few years ago on Twitter? I can't remember exactly what it was (it was on the Shady Camp board) but it was hinting at Marshall being the stable parent. Or that he does the majority of the parenting. Or the kids spend most of their time with him. Or something like that. Maybe that is what she was talking about. Also, someone posted on facebook back when this story broke that he used to go out drinking with Kim but stopped a couple of years ago because she just got to be too much. I didn't believe it because it is internet gossip, but maybe it is true too. That's really sad if that's the case. Also, I thought she was still together with her son's father. I guess not. I see that someone mentioned her mom being the one with her in court..but who else would be with her? Her kids are in school. If she's still with her baby daddy, I assume he would be at work. If Marshall shows up, it would be a media circus which would just make things worse. So I can see that her mom is the one there for her. From what I understand, she financially supports her mom and stepdad. Maybe her mom feels obligated. Or maybe her mom feels guilty for the life her daughters were raised in, seeing that one died of a heroin overdose after years of drug abuse, homelessness, jail, etc. and the other has some serious issues. I always thought her mom had more to do with her problems than Marshall. Just like I have always thought Debbie had more to do with Marshall's problems than Kim. but what do I know??? |
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Post by willowmoonblood on Oct 19, 2016 15:56:25 GMT -5
I wonder if Kim really ever got clean and sober. Until we heard about the car accident, I was under the impression, that she was doing great, and had gotten clean and sober just like Marshall. Now I am wondering if she`s been like this the whole time. Really feel sorry for her kids. I can only imagine how they have been trying to hide their mothers alcohol problems. Especially since they are in the public eye. Maybe that is what she was talking about. Also, someone posted on facebook back when this story broke that he used to go out drinking with Kim but stopped a couple of years ago because she just got to be too much. I didn't believe it because it is internet gossip, but maybe it is true too. That's really sad if that's the case. Also, I thought she was still together with her son's father. I guess not. I see that someone mentioned her mom being the one with her in court..but who else would be with her? Her kids are in school. If she's still with her baby daddy, I assume he would be at work. If Marshall shows up, it would be a media circus which would just make things worse. So I can see that her mom is the one there for her. From what I understand, she financially supports her mom and stepdad. Maybe her mom feels obligated. Or maybe her mom feels guilty for the life her daughters were raised in, seeing that one died of a heroin overdose after years of drug abuse, homelessness, jail, etc. and the other has some serious issues. I always thought her mom had more to do with her problems than Marshall. Just like I have always thought Debbie had more to do with Marshall's problems than Kim. but what do I know??? That was me that alluded to the fact that maybe someone else should have been with her besides her mom. I didn't expect Em to show that would cause to much of an uproar. And in retrospect I guess either one of the older girls showing up would have done the same thing maybe not to the degree Em would but still. I guess I was basing my assumption of them giving her touch love on the fact that based on what is being released on those "helper accounts" Both girls give the appearance of not being to bothered by what is going on with their mom. If my mom had a court date that may land her back in jail I wouldn't be attending concerts and throwing housewarming parties. Then again I guess their lives shouldn't be put on hold because of her actions. (I know I am so wishy washy LOL) I remember what Royces wife said it was something like you stated along the lines of Em was the Mother and the Father (I think). I had also read that some parent that child went to the same school as one of the girls said Em was the one who was always there with the girls they never seen Kim. I am starting to think Kim was a functioning addict the entire time. Em hinted (or rather came right out and said it) on that leaked songs 50 ways that she was still doing Coke when they married the second time. Maybe her son having a disability and the break up with his father drove her over? I feel for Kim I really do, her and Em family remind me so much of my own growing up. They should both be commended for stopping the cycle with their girls. I really hope that her sentencing has some sort of mental health counselling in it. Therapy really seems to have helped Em and Royce, maybe that is what she needs as well. One of the stories stated that she is now going by Kim Scott again. I wonder why she changed it back after all these years? |
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Post by nelly on Oct 19, 2016 21:48:53 GMT -5
It looks like she is still battling her depression. When I was really depressed, the last thing I cared about was my appearance so it doesn't surprise me that she wouldn't make more of an effort for court. Who knows, maybe her lawyer is trying to use it as a legal strategy to get a lesser sentence. When she did her interview with Mojo, she sounded level headed and ashamed of having to address her mistake. Her body language in that short interview outside the courthouse is also consistent with someone who is embarrassed and trying to hide away from the cameras. The fact that she pleaded guilty shows that she is willing to take responsibility for her actions. To us, it may seem like she hasn't been in the public eye for a long time but she's still pretty well known around Detroit. I know I would hate to feel like all eyes are on me when I'm doing something as mundane as grocery shopping even if nobody was really paying attention to me lol Perception is reality.
I don't know why some of you assume that she is a burden to her family, they seem to be doing just fine. She already said that they were supportive and I think that's what she needs. Different approaches work for different people, some people respond well to tough love and some don't. I agree that only she holds the power to overcome her depression but it doesn't mean that everyone around her should treat her like a pariah for her to get there. It's nice to feel love and support when you are going through something like that. As far as Em is concerned, he is mature enough to decide if he can handle being around someone who is depressed. At the end of the day, they are raising kids together so he can't just shut her out completely.
I never heard that Em was the sole parent. It actually seems like it was the opposite, the girls lived primarily with Kim and would see Em on the weekends or whatever their arrangement was. By the time he sobered up and got his life on track, the girls were in their teens and that's when you start drifting away from your parents anyway. I don't know, the girls seem super close to Kim. Alaina has shared loving texts from Kim and has written long messages about how much she loves and admires her. I guess we will never know but if Royce and his wife really commented on that, that's fucked up because I'm sure Em doesn't want his personal business out there. Until something comes out to prove otherwise I'm inclined to think that she has a good relationship with her kids. I actually saw a picture of Kim with her daughters at Hailie's graduation from a couple of years ago, she looked really good and healthy so I think her troubles started recently.
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Post by tcat on Oct 19, 2016 23:18:41 GMT -5
It looks like she is still battling her depression. When I was really depressed, the last thing I cared about was my appearance so it doesn't surprise me that she wouldn't make more of an effort for court. Who knows, maybe her lawyer is trying to use it as a legal strategy to get a lesser sentence. When she did her interview with Mojo, she sounded level headed and ashamed of having to address her mistake. Her body language in that short interview outside the courthouse is also consistent with someone who is embarrassed and trying to hide away from the cameras. The fact that she pleaded guilty shows that she is willing to take responsibility for her actions. To us, it may seem like she hasn't been in the public eye for a long time but she's still pretty well known around Detroit. I know I would hate to feel like all eyes are on me when I'm doing something as mundane as grocery shopping even if nobody was really paying attention to me lol Perception is reality. I don't know why some of you assume that she is a burden to her family, they seem to be doing just fine. She already said that they were supportive and I think that's what she needs. Different approaches work for different people, some people respond well to tough love and some don't. I agree that only she holds the power to overcome her depression but it doesn't mean that everyone around her should treat her like a pariah for her to get there. It's nice to feel love and support when you are going through something like that. As far as Em is concerned, he is mature enough to decide if he can handle being around someone who is depressed. At the end of the day, they are raising kids together so he can't just shut her out completely. I never heard that Em was the sole parent. It actually seems like it was the opposite, the girls lived primarily with Kim and would see Em on the weekends or whatever their arrangement was. By the time he sobered up and got his life on track, the girls were in their teens and that's when you start drifting away from your parents anyway. I don't know, the girls seem super close to Kim. Alaina has shared loving texts from Kim and has written long messages about how much she loves and admires her. I guess we will never know but if Royce and his wife really commented on that, that's fucked up because I'm sure Em doesn't want his personal business out there. Until something comes out to prove otherwise I'm inclined to think that she has a good relationship with her kids. I actually saw a picture of Kim with her daughters at Hailie's graduation from a couple of years ago, she looked really good and healthy so I think her troubles started recently. I don't think she's a "burden" to her family but anyone who has had to deal with mental illness/depression or had a family member deal with it knows how stressful it is for everyone. I don't think everyone should treat her like a pariah either but when someones behavior becomes toxic to the point it is negatively affecting your life, you need to step back - much like she had to do with her sister. I don't think anyone holds any ill will towards Kim because she had to distance herself from Dawn. I think everyone sympathizes with her and understands why should would have to do that. I hope Kim's illness hasn't reached that point and never does. i hope she is getting the support she needs from her family. I have always gotten the impression from what little I know of Alaina that she is closer to Kim than Em. She was older than the others and probably more aware of what was going on when their relationship was at its worst. I can only imagine what she has seen. As for the tweet, IIRC, I think Royce's wife deleted the tweet very shortly after she sent it out so the speculation was Em got wind of it and made her take it down. I haven't seen pictures of her from Hailie's graduation but I have seen the pics from her homecoming and I thought Kim looked gorgeous (the one with her in the red jacket). I remember thinking at the time that she was like Em in that she got better looking as she got older. |
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Post by sophiemom on Oct 20, 2016 0:35:03 GMT -5
Interesting timing on Em's part to release news of an upcoming album and his freestyle. Maybe to take away attention from Kim's court date?
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Post by nelly on Oct 20, 2016 0:42:57 GMT -5
It looks like she is still battling her depression. When I was really depressed, the last thing I cared about was my appearance so it doesn't surprise me that she wouldn't make more of an effort for court. Who knows, maybe her lawyer is trying to use it as a legal strategy to get a lesser sentence. When she did her interview with Mojo, she sounded level headed and ashamed of having to address her mistake. Her body language in that short interview outside the courthouse is also consistent with someone who is embarrassed and trying to hide away from the cameras. The fact that she pleaded guilty shows that she is willing to take responsibility for her actions. To us, it may seem like she hasn't been in the public eye for a long time but she's still pretty well known around Detroit. I know I would hate to feel like all eyes are on me when I'm doing something as mundane as grocery shopping even if nobody was really paying attention to me lol Perception is reality. I don't know why some of you assume that she is a burden to her family, they seem to be doing just fine. She already said that they were supportive and I think that's what she needs. Different approaches work for different people, some people respond well to tough love and some don't. I agree that only she holds the power to overcome her depression but it doesn't mean that everyone around her should treat her like a pariah for her to get there. It's nice to feel love and support when you are going through something like that. As far as Em is concerned, he is mature enough to decide if he can handle being around someone who is depressed. At the end of the day, they are raising kids together so he can't just shut her out completely. I never heard that Em was the sole parent. It actually seems like it was the opposite, the girls lived primarily with Kim and would see Em on the weekends or whatever their arrangement was. By the time he sobered up and got his life on track, the girls were in their teens and that's when you start drifting away from your parents anyway. I don't know, the girls seem super close to Kim. Alaina has shared loving texts from Kim and has written long messages about how much she loves and admires her. I guess we will never know but if Royce and his wife really commented on that, that's fucked up because I'm sure Em doesn't want his personal business out there. Until something comes out to prove otherwise I'm inclined to think that she has a good relationship with her kids. I actually saw a picture of Kim with her daughters at Hailie's graduation from a couple of years ago, she looked really good and healthy so I think her troubles started recently. I don't think she's a "burden" to her family but anyone who has had to deal with mental illness/depression or had a family member deal with it knows how stressful it is for everyone. I don't think everyone should treat her like a pariah either but when someones behavior becomes toxic to the point it is negatively affecting your life, you need to step back - much like she had to do with her sister. I don't think anyone holds any ill will towards Kim because she had to distance herself from Dawn. I think everyone sympathizes with her and understands why should would have to do that. I hope Kim's illness hasn't reached that point and never does. i hope she is getting the support she needs from her family. I have always gotten the impression from what little I know of Alaina that she is closer to Kim than Em. She was older than the others and probably more aware of what was going on when their relationship was at its worst. I can only imagine what she has seen. As for the tweet, IIRC, I think Royce's wife deleted the tweet very shortly after she sent it out so the speculation was Em got wind of it and made her take it down. I haven't seen pictures of her from Hailie's graduation but I have seen the pics from her homecoming and I thought Kim looked gorgeous (the one with her in the red jacket). I remember thinking at the time that she was like Em in that she got better looking as she got older. Obviously, it's not easy to deal with a family member who is depressed. I think it's great if her family is compassionate enough to stick it out with her. If you can't even count on your family through tough times, that's pretty messed up. I agree that you should remove toxic people from your life if they are negatively affecting your life and they refuse to change after you've tried everything you could. We don't have any information to suggest that Kim is anywhere near that stage. I forget who speculated that Em always does something to distract media attention away from Kim a few months ago, I'm starting to believe it after today's big news lol |
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Post by tcat on Oct 20, 2016 0:47:05 GMT -5
nelly, I think you're right. Em does always do something to distract away from Kim. I wonder why he waited until today and didn't announce this yesterday? Kim is a half a second story. I think we are the only ones that are still talking about it. I don't think his distractions are necessary but if they get us more Em material, I'm all for it.
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Post by stefanie on Oct 20, 2016 0:54:35 GMT -5
nelly , I think you're right. Em does always do something to distract away from Kim. I wonder why he waited until today and didn't announce this yesterday? Kim is a half a second story. I think we are the only ones that are still talking about it. I don't think his distractions are necessary but if they get us more Em material, I'm all for it.
I don't think they released it today because of Kim. Back in the day Kim's court dates got lots of attention but nowadays not many people on Social Media talk about her. She isn't just important to the new generation of Eminem fans. The people who talk about her are the ones from the Detroit area (mostly comments on Newspages from Detroit) because they know her or know someone who knows her.
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Post by matty on Oct 20, 2016 6:45:23 GMT -5
The last debate was last night that could have something to do with it as well..,
Course that would be nice of Em if he did it as a distraction and pretty smart
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Post by willowmoonblood on Oct 20, 2016 9:27:25 GMT -5
The last debate was last night that could have something to do with it as well.., Course that would be nice of Em if he did it as a distraction and pretty smart Maybe a combination of both...although I feel like trying to get the focus off of Kim or her family issues (he did it also when Dawn was in the news) maybe more for the girls sake than Kim's. |
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Post by cally on Oct 20, 2016 13:08:05 GMT -5
Interesting timing on Em's part to release news of an upcoming album and his freestyle. Maybe to take away attention from Kim's court date? I was thinking this too, a good distraction..although maybe not enough because we`re still here talking about her....so...maybe he should have went outside running naked..while freestyling..I know I would have been more distracted from Kim`s issues  |
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Post by Admin on Nov 22, 2016 1:44:14 GMT -5
Eminem's ex-wife Kim Mathers to be sentenced Tuesday for DUI crash By Dave Bartkowiak Jr. Kim Mathers, who is rapper Eminem's ex-wife, is scheduled to be sentenced Tuesday morning for driving under the influence. Mathers avoided a trial when she pleaded guilty to the charge in October. Her lawyer said there are no terms to the plea. The crash happened in October 2015 in Macomb Township. According to the police report, Mathers told police she'd drank a fifth of Malibu rum and crashed the car on purpose. As charges moved forward in April, the court case was sealed, leading many to wonder if she was getting special treatment. But after Local 4 obtained the dashcam video, the case was reopened to the public. "I just want to put this all behind me," Mathers said after she pleaded guilty. www.clickondetroit.com/news/eminems-ex-wife-kim-mathers-to-be-sentenced-tuesday-for-dui-crash |
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Post by GG102 on Nov 22, 2016 14:21:32 GMT -5
Kim definitely needs help, but jail time isn't the answer. It's Thanksgiving in 2 days and let's hope she gets to spend it with her family.
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