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Post by traci on Apr 1, 2023 8:49:47 GMT -5
What kind of fan are you when you believe he accepted and showed love for a kid that isnt his but would deny his own son after all the feelings he went through with his own father neglecting him. They Lied to Whitney about being his and the outcome was bad. Imagine Parker being his son with him denying it and the boy reading it on the Internet at one point. He wouldnt destroy his own kid. Agree. Also, it would not be to protect him because of his special needs. That statement was either before or soon after birth. Most children are confirmed to have autism around age 2-4, so won’t know needed extra protected just yet. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Apr 1, 2023 8:55:27 GMT -5
I honestly think "River" was about Jenny. It just seems to fit perfectly from the rumors and stories about their relationship. Also, he seemed to be doing a lot of reminiscing and apologetic on that album with "Bad Husband", where he pretty much says it is over with Kim, then there is "Castle" and "Arose," "Tragic Endings." I think them saying they were close friends was for the kids, who were at the age to comprehend what was going on. Who wants to be messy knowing their kids are in middle school and high school? Plus, his PR guy (Dennis) said the same thing about Tracy in the press release about their relationship, that they're just close friends. It's just PR talk like the trend of saying we "co-parent". When he meets someone he cares about and they are on the same page (and if she agrees to go public), he will go public. Look at George Clooney who for years said he is NEVER getting married again and he was a playboy. Then he met Amal and she rocked his world, now got him at home chasing toddler twins. George was 54 when he got married. People thought he would never find love again. Same way with Warren Beauty, who fell for Annette Bening. They also both settled down with women that were not like the type they were known for dating. Marshall will get that day some time soon—if he hasn't already, I'm sure of it.  He stated River isnt a true Story. I remember Em saying that song was a really personal story for him. Ed Shereen also said it was a personal story to Em. Listen to this at 8:20-8:35. I will look for that radio interview where Em says the same thing. |
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Post by stefanie on Apr 1, 2023 9:44:00 GMT -5
He stated River isnt a true Story. I remember Em saying that song was a really personal story for him. Ed Shereen also said it was a personal story to Em. Listen to this at 8:20-8:35. I will look for that radio interview where Em says the same thing. In a Shade45 Interview right after Revival dropped him and Porter talked about Songs and Porter said something about one (I dont remember wich) and mentioned made up Story telling. And Eminem replied something like "As if River is true". It sounded like he wanted people to know. Also if Jennys Story is true, it was a miscarriage and not an abortion, so why would he twist an unfortunate situation into a lie about something many are against. Also wouldnt be fair towards Jenny to act like "she killed her baby" if it was a sad loss. I never heard Eminem saying it was a personal Song. When and where did he? |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Apr 1, 2023 10:09:17 GMT -5
I remember Em saying that song was a really personal story for him. Ed Shereen also said it was a personal story to Em. Listen to this at 8:20-8:35. I will look for that radio interview where Em says the same thing. In a Shade45 Interview right after Revival dropped him and Porter talked about Songs and Porter said something about one (I dont remember wich) and mentioned made up Story telling. And Eminem replied something like "As if River is true". It sounded like he wanted people to know. Also if Jennys Story is true, it was a miscarriage and not an abortion, so why would he twist an unfortunate situation into a lie about something many are against. Also wouldnt be fair towards Jenny to act like "she killed her baby" if it was a sad loss. I never heard Eminem saying it was a personal Song. When and where did he? Can you share that Shade45 interview? It also was Shade45 where I heard him say it was a personal story. I will look for it. I'm not saying he lied, it is possible that Jenny lied. I have known women who were embarrassed to say they had an abortion and told family and friends they miscarried, so it wouldn't be too far out for her to lie about it? Also, why would Ed Shereen lie here about it being personal to Eminem? What does he have to gain? Also, Em saying "As if River is true" could be sarcasm, which he is known for. That's why I asked for a link, so I can listen. You asked why would he lie about something many are against? Since when has Eminem cared about going against what "many people" think? Remember that BET Cypher where he told his Trump-loving fans off? He definitely went against "many people". But, I'm not trying to debate with you. It's okay to have differing opinions. Unless we have receipts, it's all fodder anyway. |
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Post by stefanie on Apr 1, 2023 10:25:50 GMT -5
Can you share that Shade45 interview? It also was Shade45 where I heard him say it was a personal story. I will look for it. I'm not saying he lied, it is possible that Jenny lied. I have known women who were embarrassed to say they had an abortion and told family and friends they miscarried, so it wouldn't be too far out for her to lie about it? Also, why would Ed Shereen lie here about it being personal to Eminem? What does he have to gain? Also, Em saying "As if River is true" could be sarcasm, which he is known for. That's why I asked for a link, so I can listen. You asked why would he lie about something many are against? Since when has Eminem cared about going against what "many people" think? Remember that BET Cypher where he told his Trump-loving fans off? He definitely went against "many people". But, I'm not trying to debate with you. It's okay to have differing opinions. Unless we have receipts, it's all fodder anyway. I would need to look it up what the name of the Interview was. It clearly wasnt a sarcasm voice and others I then talked to agreed he wanted to get it out it wasnt true. I didnt listen to the Ed Sheeran Interview so I dont know what he exactly said. Jenny doesnt gotba reason to lie. If they had something and she had an abortion she just could have kept her mouth shut about it. Nobody forced her to say anything. Its not that River came out and she said its about her but it was a miscarriage instead. She freely shared her supposed Story. Also it wouldn't make sense for Eminem to talk about her nearly 20 years later. You are free to believe whatever, as long as you dont act like its facts when its not. Thank you |
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Post by stefanie on Apr 1, 2023 10:42:10 GMT -5
Listen from around 21:35:
I remembered wrong, Porter says River is not true storytelling and Eminem compares it to Framed.
Porter would know more than Ed, especially private things.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Apr 1, 2023 10:54:52 GMT -5
Can you share that Shade45 interview? It also was Shade45 where I heard him say it was a personal story. I will look for it. I'm not saying he lied, it is possible that Jenny lied. I have known women who were embarrassed to say they had an abortion and told family and friends they miscarried, so it wouldn't be too far out for her to lie about it? Also, why would Ed Shereen lie here about it being personal to Eminem? What does he have to gain? Also, Em saying "As if River is true" could be sarcasm, which he is known for. That's why I asked for a link, so I can listen. You asked why would he lie about something many are against? Since when has Eminem cared about going against what "many people" think? Remember that BET Cypher where he told his Trump-loving fans off? He definitely went against "many people". But, I'm not trying to debate with you. It's okay to have differing opinions. Unless we have receipts, it's all fodder anyway. I would need to look it up what the name of the Interview was. It clearly wasnt a sarcasm voice and others I then talked to agreed he wanted to get it out it wasnt true. I didnt listen to the Ed Sheeran Interview so I dont know what he exactly said. Jenny doesnt gotba reason to lie. If they had something and she had an abortion she just could have kept her mouth shut about it. Nobody forced her to say anything. Its not that River came out and she said its about her but it was a miscarriage instead. She freely shared her supposed Story. Also it wouldn't make sense for Eminem to talk about her nearly 20 years later. You are free to believe whatever, as long as you dont act like its facts when its not. Thank you Where am I acting like it is facts. I'm listening to an artist say the person he worked with wrote his lyrics from something personal. In my original post I said "I think River is about Jenny". (Perhaps it is a personal story about another woman he was with and she had an abortion - who knows). But, did you miss that part of my opening sentence? Like we all do on these boards where we don't know these people. Then, asking why would Jenny lie is comical at best. Why wouldn't she? This is the woman who supposedly slept with her best friends husband and betrayed her trust. Not exactly the most trustworthy person. And you didn't even listen to the Ed Shereen interview? Yet, you are debating and not even listening to a credible person attest to it being a personal story for Em. But of course you don't share your proof of Em saying it is not personal for him. You still have not given proof it is not fact. I think I will take what Ed (who knows him) is saying over what someone think they heard from an interview they can't remember. Have a good day, this conversation is over. |
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Post by stefanie on Apr 1, 2023 10:58:56 GMT -5
I would need to look it up what the name of the Interview was. It clearly wasnt a sarcasm voice and others I then talked to agreed he wanted to get it out it wasnt true. I didnt listen to the Ed Sheeran Interview so I dont know what he exactly said. Jenny doesnt gotba reason to lie. If they had something and she had an abortion she just could have kept her mouth shut about it. Nobody forced her to say anything. Its not that River came out and she said its about her but it was a miscarriage instead. She freely shared her supposed Story. Also it wouldn't make sense for Eminem to talk about her nearly 20 years later. You are free to believe whatever, as long as you dont act like its facts when its not. Thank you Where am I acting like it is facts. I'm listening to an artist say the person he worked with wrote his lyrics from something personal. In my original post I said "I think River is about Jenny". (Perhaps it is a personal story about another woman he was with and she had an abortion - who knows). But, did you miss that part of my opening sentence? Like we all do on these boards where we don't know these people. Then, asking why would Jenny lie is comical at best. Why wouldn't she? This is the woman who supposedly slept with her best friends husband and betrayed her trust. Not exactly the most trustworthy person. And you didn't even listen to the Ed Shereen interview? Yet, you are debating and not even listening to a credible person attest to it being a personal story for Em. But of course you don't share your proof of Em saying it is not personal for him. You still have not given proof it is not fact. I think I will take what Ed (who knows him) is saying over what someone think they heard from an interview they can't remember. Have a good day, this conversation is over. I didnt say you act like its a fact but that you shouldnt. The only thing Jenny could gain from the story was fame as it was in the lost chapter that wasnt in the book. I say its either fact or they never slept with each other. Saying an abortion was a miscarriage just can cause you being exposed. |
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Post by missy84 on Apr 1, 2023 11:07:37 GMT -5
Even a 1 night stand, Im surprised nothing of the father came out, maybe that dude can even say he should get child support from kim lol since she has more money. If eminems publicist has spoken out and said he isnt the father then that settles it but I havent read that anywhere. Who knows what really happened with Whitney, it seemed like it didnt take much to get over it, that "cousin" that wrote the book said it bothered him at first but then him and Kim became friends again and he didnt seem that bothered by it anymore, they were seen at his shows being affectionate backstage. Then Eric and his mom were complaining that they werent allowed to see the kid. I'd be skeptical about this kid being a 1 night stand. Idk if she would keep a baby from a 1 night stand, of course I have no idea and I'm just gossiping but even with Whitney she was dating Eric. That cousin said she's aborted pregnancies before, all speculation of course Nothing probably came out either because it could have been a one night stand or the father wants privacy and doesn’t want his business out there. I do not believe Eminem is the father, he would never deny the fact and at some point it would have been leaked or something to that nature. |
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Post by traci on Apr 1, 2023 11:42:07 GMT -5
Even a 1 night stand, Im surprised nothing of the father came out, maybe that dude can even say he should get child support from kim lol since she has more money. If eminems publicist has spoken out and said he isnt the father then that settles it but I havent read that anywhere. Who knows what really happened with Whitney, it seemed like it didnt take much to get over it, that "cousin" that wrote the book said it bothered him at first but then him and Kim became friends again and he didnt seem that bothered by it anymore, they were seen at his shows being affectionate backstage. Then Eric and his mom were complaining that they werent allowed to see the kid. I'd be skeptical about this kid being a 1 night stand. Idk if she would keep a baby from a 1 night stand, of course I have no idea and I'm just gossiping but even with Whitney she was dating Eric. That cousin said she's aborted pregnancies before, all speculation of course Nothing probably came out either because it could have been a one night stand or the father wants privacy and doesn’t want his business out there. I do not believe Eminem is the father, he would never deny the fact and at some point it would have been leaked or something to that nature. Right! That family can lock shit up when they want and has only gotten better at it as time goes on. The kids went to public schools, worked, and seemed to have many friends, but nada was ever said about anything. It’s not crazy to me that a father (do not think Em) was never named if wants to be private and a private citizen. Maybe an affair with married man? |
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Post by missy84 on Apr 1, 2023 12:24:00 GMT -5
Nothing probably came out either because it could have been a one night stand or the father wants privacy and doesn’t want his business out there. I do not believe Eminem is the father, he would never deny the fact and at some point it would have been leaked or something to that nature. Right! That family can lock shit up when they want and has only gotten better at it as time goes on. The kids went to public schools, worked, and seemed to have many friends, but nada was ever said about anything. It’s not crazy to me that a father (do not think Em) was never named if wants to be private and a private citizen. Maybe an affair with married man? Exactly. And if it was a married man he would not want that out there at all. And if it’s a private citizen, well same thing I suppose, he doesn’t want his business out there. I think there was a comment on why the girls don’t talk about Parker or post stuff about him. And again that probably comes back to whoever the father is and it being a privacy issue. Or maybe even Kim doesn’t want him being mentioned or pictures being posted publicly on social media. |
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Post by tracey on Apr 1, 2023 16:59:08 GMT -5
What kind of fan are you when you believe he accepted and showed love for a kid that isnt his but would deny his own son after all the feelings he went through with his own father neglecting him. They Lied to Whitney about being his and the outcome was bad. Imagine Parker being his son with him denying it and the boy reading it on the Internet at one point. He wouldnt destroy his own kid. I guess I’m just a horrible fan. I can see that my comment triggered some peeps on here. Not surprised one bit. |
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Post by sparrow on Apr 1, 2023 17:25:51 GMT -5
This is the problem with keeping so private. On the one hand unlike a lot of celebs Em and Kim get to keep some control over their personal lives. OTOH they are in their 50s now and still cursed with people rehashing rumors from 20 years ago.
It's wild to me that Em will probably be a grandpa in the next few years and we'll still be debating about if X song is about Kim.
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Post by traci on Apr 1, 2023 17:44:24 GMT -5
This is the problem with keeping so private. On the one hand unlike a lot of celebs Em and Kim get to keep some control over their personal lives. OTOH they are in their 50s now and still cursed with people rehashing rumors from 20 years ago. It's wild to me that Em will probably be a grandpa in the next few years and we'll still be debating about if X song is about Kim. Let’s hope it isn’t a private grandchild, or we might be debating whether a grandchild or his in a few years. 😂 PS: - i hope no one ever thinks my replies are rude or i was triggered by a reply. I actually love hearing others' opinions. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Apr 1, 2023 18:12:52 GMT -5
This is the problem with keeping so private. On the one hand unlike a lot of celebs Em and Kim get to keep some control over their personal lives. OTOH they are in their 50s now and still cursed with people rehashing rumors from 20 years ago. It's wild to me that Em will probably be a grandpa in the next few years and we'll still be debating about if X song is about Kim. Let’s hope it isn’t a private grandchild, or we might be debating whether a grandchild or his in a few years. 😂 PS: - i hope no one ever thinks my replies are rude or i was triggered by a reply. I actually love hearing others' opinions. Some of these people be taking this stuff serious! You say something they don't agree with and they go for the jugular.  |
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