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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 4, 2022 16:39:27 GMT -5
To be honest, I find her podcast very juvenile. Hailie ain't ever gonna be a co-host on "The View" or "The Howard Stern Show" (if Robin ever retires) by a long shot. Or any other national TV/radio show. She lacks the pizazz one needs, and there's no depth to her. It's all very surface. Viewers and listeners like controversy. Like "Carry Her Daddy," Chelsea Handler, even Zendaya is more outspoken, interesting, accomplished and she's younger. I love her show "Euphoria." You nailed it GG102! |
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Post by tcat on Sept 4, 2022 20:14:15 GMT -5
To be honest, I find her podcast very juvenile. Hailie ain't ever gonna be a co-host on "The View" or "The Howard Stern Show" (if Robin ever retires) by a long shot. Or any other national TV/radio show. She lacks the pizazz one needs, and there's no depth to her. It's all very surface. Viewers and listeners like controversy. Like "Carry Her Daddy," Chelsea Handler, even Zendaya is more outspoken, interesting, accomplished and she's younger. I love her show "Euphoria." you are comparing her to celebrities. She's not a celebrity and doesn't seem to be trying to occupy that space. Her podcast seems to be two 20 something girls talking about their life. If you aren't a 20 something female you probably won't find her podcast interesting. This is why her views have gone down. I think the first podcast was mainly males and once they heard it, realized it wasn't for them. They are not her demographic niche. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 4, 2022 22:21:27 GMT -5
To be honest, I find her podcast very juvenile. Hailie ain't ever gonna be a co-host on "The View" or "The Howard Stern Show" (if Robin ever retires) by a long shot. Or any other national TV/radio show. She lacks the pizazz one needs, and there's no depth to her. It's all very surface. Viewers and listeners like controversy. Like "Carry Her Daddy," Chelsea Handler, even Zendaya is more outspoken, interesting, accomplished and she's younger. I love her show "Euphoria." you are comparing her to celebrities. She's not a celebrity and doesn't seem to be trying to occupy that space. Her podcast seems to be two 20 something girls talking about their life. If you aren't a 20 something female you probably won't find her podcast interesting. This is why her views have gone down. I think the first podcast was mainly males and once they heard it, realized it wasn't for them. They are not her demographic niche. To be honest there are people who became influencers who were just regular people ranging in age from teenagers to older. If you have charisma you have charisma it doesn't matter if you are a celebrity or not. To be honest, it's whether you have what it takes to become a celebrity or influencer. I don't mean to speak for GG102, but I assume that was their stance. Currently, Hailie does not have the type of personality that typically excels in this arena. Nothing against her. I'm sure she has skills and talents that other people do not. |
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Post by GG102 on Sept 5, 2022 7:45:13 GMT -5
Regardless of what we think, I'm sure we all wish Hailie well. Not that she needs our support, I'm sure she gets plenty encouragement from her dad.
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Post by sparrow on Sept 5, 2022 9:39:56 GMT -5
I am almost old enough to be their mother, so it doesn't really interest me. I don't begrudge her for trying, though. It's hard for her to get a regular job because wherever she goes she'd be Eminem's famous daughter, but she also doesn't seem to want to use that to her advantage, move to LA and try to be a star. She could get a reality show in 2 seconds. I respect her for not doing that.
She's a normal person with no media training or acting background doing a podcast for the first time, and she doesn't want the show to be about her dad...it's fine for what it is.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 5, 2022 10:46:05 GMT -5
I am almost old enough to be their mother, so it doesn't really interest me. I don't begrudge her for trying, though. It's hard for her to get a regular job because wherever she goes she'd be Eminem's famous daughter, but she also doesn't seem to want to use that to her advantage, move to LA and try to be a star. She could get a reality show in 2 seconds. I respect her for not doing that. She's a normal person with no media training or acting background doing a podcast for the first time, and she doesn't want the show to be about her dad...it's fine for what it is. I totally see what you are saying Sparrow and I think it is super cool that she is trying things to see what fits best for her. I think that is the best way to figure out what she is good at. But I do think she did try to use her dad's notoriety to her benefit just a smidge, I mean she did incorporate his stage name into her podcast title and she did try to indirectly respond to the Game's mention of her with one of her old posts, which wasn't even her original idea, it first came from the fake account that pretends to be her and was clever enough to use the post. She did not even have the creativity to come up with that on her own. But it doesn't mean she won't get there. Maybe she needs her very own Paul.  |
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Post by vickvaporub on Sept 5, 2022 13:39:41 GMT -5
I am almost old enough to be their mother, so it doesn't really interest me. I don't begrudge her for trying, though. It's hard for her to get a regular job because wherever she goes she'd be Eminem's famous daughter, but she also doesn't seem to want to use that to her advantage, move to LA and try to be a star. She could get a reality show in 2 seconds. I respect her for not doing that. She's a normal person with no media training or acting background doing a podcast for the first time, and she doesn't want the show to be about her dad...it's fine for what it is. I totally see what you are saying Sparrow and I think it is super cool that she is trying things to see what fits best for her. I think that is the best way to figure out what she is good at. But I do think she did try to use her dad's notoriety to her benefit just a smidge, I mean she did incorporate his stage name into her podcast title and she did try to indirectly respond to the Game's mention of her with one of her old posts, which wasn't even her original idea, it first came from the fake account that pretends to be her and was clever enough to use the post. She did not even have the creativity to come up with that on her own. But it doesn't mean she won't get there. Maybe she needs her very own Paul. RE: using her tiktok video to respond to the game It was probably unthinkble for her to respond directly to any rapper dissing her xD That's like speaking over her father since he hasn't said anything. After watching the response her little old video got she probably realized it was not a big deal (i'm just speculating), and shared it herself xD. I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to respond, she absolutely has since she is being directly mentioned, but she has also shown she is very careful on social media. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 5, 2022 13:50:42 GMT -5
I totally see what you are saying Sparrow and I think it is super cool that she is trying things to see what fits best for her. I think that is the best way to figure out what she is good at. But I do think she did try to use her dad's notoriety to her benefit just a smidge, I mean she did incorporate his stage name into her podcast title and she did try to indirectly respond to the Game's mention of her with one of her old posts, which wasn't even her original idea, it first came from the fake account that pretends to be her and was clever enough to use the post. She did not even have the creativity to come up with that on her own. But it doesn't mean she won't get there. Maybe she needs her very own Paul. RE: using her tiktok video to respond to the game It was probably unthinkble for her to respond directly to any rapper dissing her xD That's like speaking over her father since he hasn't said anything. After watching the response her little old video got she probably realized it was not a big deal (i'm just speculating), and shared it herself xD. I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to respond, she absolutely has since she is being directly mentioned, but she has also shown she is very careful on social media. Good point! But it also clearly shows that there is not that open line of communication with her dad like we all assume if she doesn't initially think it is good to respond to a diss aimed at her father, but decided it is okay after watching some random Eminem fan/stalker share one of her very own posts. I think she is just not marketing savvy and you need to be when you are an influencer. So many things she could have done to respond in a cute funny way but not obvious it is at the Game, such as doing a funny video with that guy in Detroit who teaches people self defense and it is all wrong. That guy has gone viral because his moves don't work. People would have got a kick out of that because it is the antithesis of her personality. But instead, she gets upstage with HER OWN CONTENT shared by some random Stan. SMH |
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Post by vickvaporub on Sept 5, 2022 14:19:44 GMT -5
RE: using her tiktok video to respond to the game It was probably unthinkble for her to respond directly to any rapper dissing her xD That's like speaking over her father since he hasn't said anything. After watching the response her little old video got she probably realized it was not a big deal (i'm just speculating), and shared it herself xD. I'm not saying she doesn't have a right to respond, she absolutely has since she is being directly mentioned, but she has also shown she is very careful on social media. Good point! But it also clearly shows that there is not that open line of communication with her dad like we all assume if she doesn't initially think it is good to respond to a diss aimed at her father, but decided it is okay after watching some random Eminem fan/stalker share one of her very own posts. I think she is just not marketing savvy and you need to be when you are an influencer. So many things she could have done to respond in a cute funny way but not obvious it is at the Game, such as doing a funny video with that guy in Detroit who teaches people self defense and it is all wrong. That guy has gone viral because his moves don't work. People would have got a kick out of that because it is the antithesis of her personality. But instead, she gets upstage with HER OWN CONTENT shared by some random Stan. SMH It sadly happens so frequently that's probably just standard procedure for them to just initially ignore anything related to disses, not something they even have to speak about. And she is not taking the influencer thing too seriously, can you imagine taking a day off when you just started a new project? As you have said being an influencer also requires a lot of discipline and good planing skills, to always produce content and keep your audience engaged, (not taking a holiday when your podcast is only a month old) It just looks lazy I'm sorry xD |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 5, 2022 16:45:24 GMT -5
Good point! But it also clearly shows that there is not that open line of communication with her dad like we all assume if she doesn't initially think it is good to respond to a diss aimed at her father, but decided it is okay after watching some random Eminem fan/stalker share one of her very own posts. I think she is just not marketing savvy and you need to be when you are an influencer. So many things she could have done to respond in a cute funny way but not obvious it is at the Game, such as doing a funny video with that guy in Detroit who teaches people self defense and it is all wrong. That guy has gone viral because his moves don't work. People would have got a kick out of that because it is the antithesis of her personality. But instead, she gets upstage with HER OWN CONTENT shared by some random Stan. SMH It sadly happens so frequently that's probably just standard procedure for them to just initially ignore anything related to disses, not something they even have to speak about. And she is not taking the influencer thing too seriously, can you imagine taking a day off when you just started a new project? As you have said being an influencer also requires a lot of discipline and good planing skills, to always produce content and keep your audience engaged, (not taking a holiday when your podcast is only a month old) It just looks lazy I'm sorry xD THIS! You said it all!  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2022 16:56:25 GMT -5
As someone who is in their 20's like Hailie I still don't find her podcast that interesting as well. I get she is probably holding back and not trying to be as vulgar as others, but it almost comes off as she is stunted? Talking about Tik Toks for majority of the time seems pointless. I really thought she would talk about more thought provoking things. A lot of people watched the initial video of course that was bound to happen, but I can't see her sustaining this podcast if she's not talking about anything substantial, thought provoking, or interesting. It's kind of a dud, but at least she put herself out there. She mentioned how she's always been really shy and it's probably not easy to throw yourself infront of millions of people to be judged. Hopefully it works out for her but I just don't see this being a lasting thing tbh.
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Post by sparrow on Sept 5, 2022 17:39:50 GMT -5
As someone who is in their 20's like Hailie I still don't find her podcast that interesting as well. I get she is probably holding back and not trying to be as vulgar as others, but it almost comes off as she is stunted? Talking about Tik Toks for majority of the time seems pointless. I really thought she would talk about more thought provoking things. A lot of people watched the initial video of course that was bound to happen, but I can't see her sustaining this podcast if she's not talking about anything substantial, thought provoking, or interesting. It's kind of a dud, but at least she put herself out there. She mentioned how she's always been really shy and it's probably not easy to throw yourself infront of millions of people to be judged. Hopefully it works out for her but I just don't see this being a lasting thing tbh. That sounds awful. Not even a reaction channel, just "did you see the one tiktok"? OTOH she again is kind of stuck keeping it real light. Can you imagine the shitstorm if she talked about sex? Smoking weed? Really any adult topic. If she talks about politics or current events she'll get blasted, if she talks about music and says she loves so-and-so's album even more than the last one it'll be a whole thing about "Eminem's daughter DISSES so-and-so", and we saw what happenned when she talked a tiny bit about growing up with Em. Immediately a zillion clickbait articles about the Disney princess thing. Imagine if she told a real story, like remembering a fight he and Kim had. Fucking front page news. |
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Post by traci on Sept 5, 2022 18:43:34 GMT -5
I’ve listen to a few and agree with the people that mentioned it’s a tad safe. I’m sure family topics are be off limits, but there is plenty of common topics to talk about besides tiktok etc., I think even having Alaina as a guest sometimes would help - she seems to be outgoing and engages with her instagram followers etc.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 5, 2022 19:32:49 GMT -5
As someone who is in their 20's like Hailie I still don't find her podcast that interesting as well. I get she is probably holding back and not trying to be as vulgar as others, but it almost comes off as she is stunted? Talking about Tik Toks for majority of the time seems pointless. I really thought she would talk about more thought provoking things. A lot of people watched the initial video of course that was bound to happen, but I can't see her sustaining this podcast if she's not talking about anything substantial, thought provoking, or interesting. It's kind of a dud, but at least she put herself out there. She mentioned how she's always been really shy and it's probably not easy to throw yourself infront of millions of people to be judged. Hopefully it works out for her but I just don't see this being a lasting thing tbh. That sounds awful. Not even a reaction channel, just "did you see the one tiktok"? OTOH she again is kind of stuck keeping it real light. Can you imagine the shitstorm if she talked about sex? Smoking weed? Really any adult topic. If she talks about politics or current events she'll get blasted, if she talks about music and says she loves so-and-so's album even more than the last one it'll be a whole thing about "Eminem's daughter DISSES so-and-so", and we saw what happenned when she talked a tiny bit about growing up with Em. Immediately a zillion clickbait articles about the Disney princess thing. Imagine if she told a real story, like remembering a fight he and Kim had. Fucking front page news. Unfortunately, the salacious stuff is what sells. But, I'm glad she didn't go that route. It's nice to see that she grew up with values and isn't just out there like her parents were. But that is where clever marketing comes into play. I love when she said she was going to Lollapalooza and said they may interview up and coming artists. That was smart. But she didn't even do that. I am so confused why she didn't even stick to that plan. Big Sean was there and he is from her town. Why not reach out and interview him and his girlfriend, whom she didn't even know was pregnant. So she is not even up on pop culture? How you going to be a podcaster? Then saying she got kicked out of Metallica like that is cool news. That just told me you didn't even apply for press credentials, which are FREE instead she paid to have a booth there. I'm still shaking my head on that one. But, maybe she took time to reflect and is going to come back with a new plan, might be why she has the rep now. We'll see! |
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Post by matty on Sept 6, 2022 18:35:59 GMT -5
I think the pod is a bit boring too but it’s also new.
I do think she is the type to excel at things pretty quickly because of talent/money/pretty/fame so this might be a different challenge for her
Podcasting isn’t as easy as it seems
And it takes a lot to be entertaining for about an hour a week and maybe she’s sorta realizing that. This is no slight to her. Like I said she seemed to have inherited a lot of Ems traits as far as talent goes but she never had to hustle like Em did and this might be different for her. It’s hard leaving ur comfort zone and to be fair she really didn’t have to
I think she should focus her podcast less about her personal life because she can’t get too personal unless she wants more family drama for no reason also if she isn’t careful viewers might start knitpicking shit about her sooner rather than later because it does seem like her life is pretty easy and her complaining that she was too tired to go to a baby shower cuz she was hungover when some 26/27 year olds can’t even pay for gas now can be a quick downfall
Again I am NOT saying she’s bad for being in this situation it’s just the human nature of the internet and EVERYONES complained about stupid shit like that before but if it becomes a habit it might backfire without her meaning malice and just trying to tell a funny story
I think she should focus on a topic like deep dives in documentaries (we seems to have the same love of shows so I’d be into that) or something where she doesn’t have to talk about her personal life as much or have the expectations. Maybe review make up? Idk just my thoughts
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