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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 14, 2024 9:33:52 GMT -5
Definition of nepo baby: Nepo baby, short for nepotism baby, is a term referring to people whose parents have succeeded in similar or related careers. A podcast is considered a sector in the entertainment bsuiness. Eminem is not considered just a musician he is also an entertainer. The same people who rep him, could feasibly rep her.
My point is, the average person is not going out drinking in the middle of the day. The mentality that people can spend tons of money on a hobby is not average. Goes against the idea his goal is to raise the girls normal.
As for whether influencers are like athletes, a lot of agencies who represent them would disagree with you. And for someone who has been able to work about 15 hours per week and make 6 figures annually for the past decade, I would have to disagree as well about how lucrative and sustainable it is.
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Post by newbie on Aug 14, 2024 9:37:21 GMT -5
I don't think Eminem wants her to be like those celebrity children... that's why he didn't raise her in the public eye like - for example - Kardashians do. I honestly thought the Bizarre line was a joke. If he wanted to promote her, I'd expect a link or something on Eminem official pages. And yes, she's a "lame influencer" but that's really a compliment to her! Influencing is not a job anyway and that type of career doesn't have a sustainable future. The sooner she realizes it, the better. If Eminem didn't wnat her to have nepo baby characteristics, well it didn't work. Some of her posts are hilarious where she says she gets up at noon to run errands. So what is she doing all day while Evan works and her friends work? And then the one post where she was out drinking through the week in the middle of the day. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything wrong with her not having to work and be able to work as she pleases, but you are right she is not like the Kardashians. Much as I dislike that family they ALL are on the grind and hustle hard. Privilege got them there but every last one of those girls have a flourishing business or brand. Also that podcast was mentioned like 2-3 time on that album, maybe it is a joke, but weird to make a joke of a podcast that is struggling. Or maybe he is making fun of the fans who follow everything that him and his family does. Interetsing either way. Good influencers do have careers and in less than 10 years can make more than most people make in a lifetime. Is it the norm? No, but it is no different than athletes, who typically have short careers, but the money outtput is so vast they can turn it into sustainable wealth. It's truly all about investing what you earn. But some people are more comfortable with a 9-5, 40-hour schedule and I don't see her wanting that or she would have done it already like Alaina is somewhat doing. I see what you mean Alphagirl - even the title of her podcast is a nod to her father so the idea of not wanting an association doesn't seem to stick long. I have looked at her home decor based IG and she always mentions "friends" as in doing stuff for people she already knows. Still doesn't provoke the idea that she is trying to make money or a business for long term - unless her friends remodel that often LOL. I get what you mean about her podcast being referenced on the album - wouldn't be surprised if it's like how he would reference things she did as a kid in other ways but now she isn't a kid and the only thing that is going is a podcast so he's just being a dad and saying that. No kidding, I have seen influencers make quite a bit of money if they dedicate themselves to it. I thought that was Hailies goal. The more I see the less I am convinced it is... I wonder if maybe that was an original intention but then she had a wedding to plan then got married and such. I know people who have plans then get married and change their goals. If that is the case I wonder if maybe she'll make this season her last and find something else. Also...it did cross my mind when I saw that IG story about them asking they should talk about as "is this them wanting to hear how much fans want to hear about her dad" BUT I decided no only because to me putting that out there is not to her benefit - it comes off as they have nothing completed, don't have a direction, didn't think about it until now and had mentioned it returned in short promo pics/stories last week or so.... just stuff to think about. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 14, 2024 9:47:20 GMT -5
If Eminem didn't wnat her to have nepo baby characteristics, well it didn't work. Some of her posts are hilarious where she says she gets up at noon to run errands. So what is she doing all day while Evan works and her friends work? And then the one post where she was out drinking through the week in the middle of the day. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think there is anything wrong with her not having to work and be able to work as she pleases, but you are right she is not like the Kardashians. Much as I dislike that family they ALL are on the grind and hustle hard. Privilege got them there but every last one of those girls have a flourishing business or brand. Also that podcast was mentioned like 2-3 time on that album, maybe it is a joke, but weird to make a joke of a podcast that is struggling. Or maybe he is making fun of the fans who follow everything that him and his family does. Interetsing either way. Good influencers do have careers and in less than 10 years can make more than most people make in a lifetime. Is it the norm? No, but it is no different than athletes, who typically have short careers, but the money outtput is so vast they can turn it into sustainable wealth. It's truly all about investing what you earn. But some people are more comfortable with a 9-5, 40-hour schedule and I don't see her wanting that or she would have done it already like Alaina is somewhat doing. I see what you mean Alphagirl - even the title of her podcast is a nod to her father so the idea of not wanting an association doesn't seem to stick long. I have looked at her home decor based IG and she always mentions "friends" as in doing stuff for people she already knows. Still doesn't provoke the idea that she is trying to make money or a business for long term - unless her friends remodel that often LOL. I get what you mean about her podcast being referenced on the album - wouldn't be surprised if it's like how he would reference things she did as a kid in other ways but now she isn't a kid and the only thing that is going is a podcast so he's just being a dad and saying that. No kidding, I have seen influencers make quite a bit of money if they dedicate themselves to it. I thought that was Hailies goal. The more I see the less I am convinced it is... I wonder if maybe that was an original intention but then she had a wedding to plan then got married and such. I know people who have plans then get married and change their goals. If that is the case I wonder if maybe she'll make this season her last and find something else. Also...it did cross my mind when I saw that IG story about them asking they should talk about as "is this them wanting to hear how much fans want to hear about her dad" BUT I decided no only because to me putting that out there is not to her benefit - it comes off as they have nothing completed, don't have a direction, didn't think about it until now and had mentioned it returned in short promo pics/stories last week or so.... just stuff to think about. Definitely, it looks more like bad work ethic than a hobby. Even on her podcast she said she got the degree she got because she had no clue what she wanted to d and she had to get a degree in something. I admit, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and changed my major a few times, but I always had a goal and it was entreprenural and my mom sat me down and said I had to give it 100% to be successful, not half @$$ things. By 30, people regardless of socioeconomic status should have a grasp of that. I have several close friends that come from wealth and none of them are floundering in that way. Goal oriented has nothing to do with being wealthy or poor, it is about having direction in life. Doesn't seem like she has any. |
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Post by traci on Aug 14, 2024 9:53:29 GMT -5
alpha, and adele You both have very valid and interesting points, and honestly, this is the stuff I wish she would talk about on her podcast lol. It’s so interesting to me that she has a normal life but doesn’t. I mean, obviously it’s her life and she has nothing to compare it to, but I think that’s why people have a hard time relating because in someway she is very normal and she did go to college and she didn’t go to Hollywood, but yet another way they can’t relate because most people work because they have to, and not until they find what sticks, etc.
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Post by adele on Aug 14, 2024 9:55:06 GMT -5
Definition of nepo baby: Nepo baby, short for nepotism baby, is a term referring to people whose parents have succeeded in similar or related careers. A podcast is considered a sector in the entertainment bsuiness. Eminem is not considered just a musician he is also an entertainer. The same people who rep him, could feasibly rep her. My point is, the average person is not going out drinking in the middle of the day. The mentality that people can spend tons of money on a hobby is not average. Goes against the idea his goal is to raise the girls normal. As for whether influencers are like athletes, a lot of agencies who represent them would disagree with you. And for someone who has been able to work about 15 hours per week and make 6 figures annually for the past decade, I would have to disagree as well about how lucrative and sustainable it is. On Hailie being a nepo baby... that's a huge stretch, IMO. She has a podcast and her father is a rapper - sure, it's the same industry... but it's a HUGE industry and she didn't really use her father's name to make her podcast big. If she was a nepo baby... she'd have Rihanna on or some other huge star her father has connections to. The part about drinking in the middle of the week just isn't true, especially for young people. That's how it is around me, maybe it's different for you and your people. And I really cannot compare influencers to athletes - money isn't the issue here - but what influencers do just isn't comparable to what athletes do. You can make a lot of money in many different ways but... I mean, there are better and there are worse ways. I don't have the same respect for - example - Gabby Thomas and Chiara Ferragni. They can't be compared even though Chiara probably earns way more than Gabby. |
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Post by newbie on Aug 14, 2024 9:58:20 GMT -5
I see what you mean Alphagirl - even the title of her podcast is a nod to her father so the idea of not wanting an association doesn't seem to stick long. I have looked at her home decor based IG and she always mentions "friends" as in doing stuff for people she already knows. Still doesn't provoke the idea that she is trying to make money or a business for long term - unless her friends remodel that often LOL. I get what you mean about her podcast being referenced on the album - wouldn't be surprised if it's like how he would reference things she did as a kid in other ways but now she isn't a kid and the only thing that is going is a podcast so he's just being a dad and saying that. No kidding, I have seen influencers make quite a bit of money if they dedicate themselves to it. I thought that was Hailies goal. The more I see the less I am convinced it is... I wonder if maybe that was an original intention but then she had a wedding to plan then got married and such. I know people who have plans then get married and change their goals. If that is the case I wonder if maybe she'll make this season her last and find something else. Also...it did cross my mind when I saw that IG story about them asking they should talk about as "is this them wanting to hear how much fans want to hear about her dad" BUT I decided no only because to me putting that out there is not to her benefit - it comes off as they have nothing completed, don't have a direction, didn't think about it until now and had mentioned it returned in short promo pics/stories last week or so.... just stuff to think about. Definitely, it looks more like bad work ethic than a hobby. Even on her podcast she said she got the degree she got because she had no clue what she wanted to d and she had to get a degree in something. I admit, I wasn't sure what I wanted to do and changed my major a few times, but I always had a goal and it was entreprenural and my mom sat be down and said I ahd to give it 100% to be successful, not half @$$ things. By 30, people regardless of socio economic status should have a grasp. I have several close friend sthat come from wealth and none of them are flundering in that way. Goal oriented has nothing to do with be wealthy or poor, it about have direction in life. Doesn't seem like she has any. That is where I find myself getting "stuck." I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and not this so critical but it's getting harder for reasons you mentioned too. The way the podcast is handled, recent IG and such, doesn't seem like she has any direction with it and almost made me think "oh they forgot they said this Friday they are back and now have to do something." If that is the case why bother having one? I see Traci's post and yes she had a pretty normal childhood but what is the niche she is going for with the podcast? She says talk about her life but then with so much normal and not sharing anything new or "catching" what is the draw (and not listing her father as one)? It's tricky... |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 14, 2024 10:08:19 GMT -5
Definition of nepo baby: Nepo baby, short for nepotism baby, is a term referring to people whose parents have succeeded in similar or related careers. A podcast is considered a sector in the entertainment bsuiness. Eminem is not considered just a musician he is also an entertainer. The same people who rep him, could feasibly rep her. My point is, the average person is not going out drinking in the middle of the day. The mentality that people can spend tons of money on a hobby is not average. Goes against the idea his goal is to raise the girls normal. As for whether influencers are like athletes, a lot of agencies who represent them would disagree with you. And for someone who has been able to work about 15 hours per week and make 6 figures annually for the past decade, I would have to disagree as well about how lucrative and sustainable it is. On Hailie being a nepo baby... that's a huge stretch, IMO. She has a podcast and her father is a rapper - sure, it's the same industry... but it's a HUGE industry and she didn't really The part about drinking in the middle of the week just isn't true, especially for young people. That's how it is around me, maybe it's different for you and your people. And I really cannot compare influencers to athletes - money isn't the issue here - but what influencers do just isn't comparable to what athletes do. We can agree to disagree on Hailie being a nepo baby. The people I know and affiliate with aren't drinking in the middle of the day — and we are millennials. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. That is your opinion. But a lot of people don't realize the work and strategy that goes into being a successful influencer. It's not about comparing what inlfuencers do vs what athletes do, it's about you saying it is not a career and in fact it is. The definition of a career: An occupation undertaken for a significant period of a person's life and with opportunities for progress. Influencers come in all fields. A doctor can be an influencer, an athlete cna be an influencer, a journalist can be an influencer. Most have a background and they turn it into an influencer career. Like Blair Eadie was the Creative Diretcor for Tory Burch and became a fashion influencer, because the money and opportunities for growth as an entrepreneur were better. An influencer is basically an entrepreneur, but not everyone is about that life nor do they understand it. Like I said, some peope are more content with what they know, 9-5, 40-hour work week. |
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Post by adele on Aug 14, 2024 10:09:42 GMT -5
I don't think she has a direction... that's her problem... not the work ethic: she doesn't have a vision. She doesn't have a clear concept, the episodes are immature and aren't really connected...
Like, if you asked me what the podcast is about... I wouldn't know what to tell you. That's her problem, IMO.
I think she's just now discovering herself and I really can't blame her because I had no idea what I'd do with my life until I was 30. I also had financially strong parents and as an only child, I could just take a gap year or two... or three. So I can't hold that against her - I'm sure she'll find her way. She seems like a decent human being and at the end of the day, that's what counts. Em made sure she doesn't have to worry about the money, ever.
Edit - I just remember when I listened to one of her episodes and at the end of the episode, they read scary Halloween stories. And I had to laugh because, like... these girls are almost 30.
Emma Chamberlain has a great podcast and she's her age, I believe. The difference in maturity is HUGE. But like I said, I can't hold that against her.
Okay, Emma is 23, just checked. So that's even worse, LOL.
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Post by missy84 on Aug 14, 2024 10:17:46 GMT -5
Definition of nepo baby: Nepo baby, short for nepotism baby, is a term referring to people whose parents have succeeded in similar or related careers. A podcast is considered a sector in the entertainment bsuiness. Eminem is not considered just a musician he is also an entertainer. The same people who rep him, could feasibly rep her. My point is, the average person is not going out drinking in the middle of the day. The mentality that people can spend tons of money on a hobby is not average. Goes against the idea his goal is to raise the girls normal. As for whether influencers are like athletes, a lot of agencies who represent them would disagree with you. And for someone who has been able to work about 15 hours per week and make 6 figures annually for the past decade, I would have to disagree as well about how lucrative and sustainable it is. On Hailie being a nepo baby... that's a huge stretch, IMO. She has a podcast and her father is a rapper - sure, it's the same industry... but it's a HUGE industry and she didn't really use her father's name to make her podcast big. If she was a nepo baby... she'd have Rihanna on or some other huge star her father has connections to. The part about drinking in the middle of the week just isn't true, especially for young people. That's how it is around me, maybe it's different for you and your people. And I really cannot compare influencers to athletes - money isn't the issue here - but what influencers do just isn't comparable to what athletes do. You can make a lot of money in many different ways but... I mean, there are better and there are worse ways. I don't have the same respect for - example - Gabby Thomas and Chiara Ferragni. They can't be compared even though Chiara probably earns way more than Gabby. Nepo baby is a stretch in this case I think. As much as he tried to raise them as normal as possible doesn’t mean they are. Obviously they are better off than most, but that doesn’t mean the average person doesn’t indulge in day drinking, shopping or spending money on hobbies. Not everyone can afford to splurge as much as Hailie could for instance, but splurge nonetheless. I’m not a fan of her podcast, and I think there is so much more she can do to succeed , but if she is happy with it that is all that matters. |
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Post by newbie on Aug 14, 2024 10:23:24 GMT -5
I see what you are saying Adele but I guess in my mind they are intertwined in a sense... like she wants a podcast then go through the motions - what is the theme, schedule around that - guests, ideas, and make content around theme, edit and such, plan when teasers and content drop etc. and more than what I listed. For me, her posting that IG story the other day was different.. I saw it and thought it came off as "oh hey podcast is live again Friday and we don't have anything what do you want?" so the idea that whatever we get Friday was thrown together last minute doesn't make me feel like she "truly wants it." People have ideas and plans, get married and those ideas and plans change, if that is the case I don't think she should have to continue on with it in a "working on a fly" time manner. IDK.... makes me feel like if she doesn't come off as wanting it or caring for it why should I want to be invested in it - or pay for content?
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Post by missy84 on Aug 14, 2024 10:27:03 GMT -5
I see what you are saying Adele but I guess in my mind they are intertwined in a sense... like she wants a podcast then go through the motions - what is the theme, schedule around that - guests, ideas, and make content around theme, edit and such, plan when teasers and content drop etc. and more than what I listed. For me, her posting that IG story the other day was different.. I saw it and thought it came off as "oh hey podcast is live again Friday and we don't have anything what do you want?" so the idea that whatever we get Friday was thrown together last minute doesn't make me feel like she "truly wants it." People have ideas and plans, get married and those ideas and plans change, if that is the case I don't think she should have to continue on with it in a "working on a fly" time manner. IDK.... makes me feel like if she doesn't come off as wanting it or caring for it why should I want to be invested in it - or pay for content? Maybe she doesn’t want it or is invested in it like everyone thinks she should be. It’s her life and if she is happy with it then that’s great. I still think it could be really good if she had structure and routine with it |
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Post by newbie on Aug 14, 2024 10:28:20 GMT -5
I see what you are saying Adele but I guess in my mind they are intertwined in a sense... like she wants a podcast then go through the motions - what is the theme, schedule around that - guests, ideas, and make content around theme, edit and such, plan when teasers and content drop etc. and more than what I listed. For me, her posting that IG story the other day was different.. I saw it and thought it came off as "oh hey podcast is live again Friday and we don't have anything what do you want?" so the idea that whatever we get Friday was thrown together last minute doesn't make me feel like she "truly wants it." People have ideas and plans, get married and those ideas and plans change, if that is the case I don't think she should have to continue on with it in a "working on a fly" time manner. IDK.... makes me feel like if she doesn't come off as wanting it or caring for it why should I want to be invested in it - or pay for content? Maybe she doesn’t want it or is invested in it like everyone thinks she should be. It’s her life and if she is happy with it then that’s great. I still think it could be really good if she had structure and routine with it Yes, structure, routine, episodes that fit a theme all of that would be great!!!! (Kind of like those influencers that build around cooking - I know I'm going to get something with food or cooking related when I look at it... When I look at Hailies it's like "oh what was on her mind that day? Cool..." It's not clear to me). |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 14, 2024 10:37:49 GMT -5
I don't think she has a direction... that's her problem... not the work ethic: she doesn't have a vision. She doesn't have a clear concept, the episodes are immature and aren't really connected... Like, if you asked me what the podcast is about... I wouldn't know what to tell you. That's her problem, IMO. I think she's just now discovering herself and I really can't blame her because I had no idea what I'd do with my life until I was 30. I also had financially strong parents and as an only child, I could just take a gap year or two... or three. So I can't hold that against her - I'm sure she'll find her way. She seems like a decent human being and at the end of the day, that's what counts. Em made sure she doesn't have to worry about the money, ever. Edit - I just remember when I listened to one of her episodes and at the end of the episode, they read scary Halloween stories. And I had to laugh because, like... these girls are almost 30. Emma Chamberlain has a great podcast and she's her age, I believe. The difference in maturity is HUGE. But like I said, I can't hold that against her. Okay, Emma is 23, just checked. So that's even worse, LOL. I'm just curious how you know it is not work ethic? I mean I watched many of her podcasts and tried to like it and support it. But she would just decide not to do a podcast and not even notify followers. In my book that has more to do with work ethic than direction. If you can't do it, at least notify followers. Her epidsode is coming up on Friday and she put out one teaser in four months. That is work ethic, not direction. I also don't buy it is a hobby. Most people do not try to generate revenue from a hobby, that is called a side gig. If you look at the podcast, as I have, she did have a vision, it just is not a successful one. The concept is her sharing tidbits of her life and relating it to some of the things we see in mainstream media. Like when the big hoopla was made about Taylor Swift dramatically cheering on her boyfriend at the football game and eating chicken fingers with ranch. (Yes, she spent a lot of time talking about this) and then the day after that podcast, Hailie went to a Detroit Lions game with her dad and he was hooping and hollering and she shared a picture of chicken fingers and ranch and made a comment similar to the one made about Taylor Swift in the media. Then she has the shady stories, which is suppose to be the anchor of the podcast and tie in its moniker, which is suppsoe to be a double entendre. To represent her being a young version of Slim Shady and having people share their shady stories. I think she has a definitive plan but the delivery is not working. I do feel like their content is slightly juvenile, but that could be because of their upbringing being more sheltered. But I also don't think she has a very deep personality, just from how she interviews guests and holds conversation on the podcast. |
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Post by adele on Aug 14, 2024 10:46:20 GMT -5
Hailie reminds me of my husband... like, when he's focused and interested in something - he gets it done and his work ethic isn't questionable. But when he's not all that interested, not motivated, his work ethic is 0 and he just doesn't care.
Hailie obtained a college degree and you can't really do that without putting in consistent work, showing up to classes, finishing projects... and so on. She doesn't care about podcast. You can kinda see that, especially during the last episodes.
That's why I doubt she'll continue. I bet she won't even finish this season.
And I agree with you: her content is juvenile. The topics just don't match an almost 30 year old MARRIED woman. She does come off as immature but again, I'm not holding that against her.
Emma Chamberlain is younger than her and she comes off much more mature, for example.
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Post by space on Aug 14, 2024 10:46:23 GMT -5
I don't think she has a direction... that's her problem... not the work ethic: she doesn't have a vision. She doesn't have a clear concept, the episodes are immature and aren't really connected... Like, if you asked me what the podcast is about... I wouldn't know what to tell you. That's her problem, IMO. I think she's just now discovering herself and I really can't blame her because I had no idea what I'd do with my life until I was 30. I also had financially strong parents and as an only child, I could just take a gap year or two... or three. So I can't hold that against her - I'm sure she'll find her way. She seems like a decent human being and at the end of the day, that's what counts. Em made sure she doesn't have to worry about the money, ever. Edit - I just remember when I listened to one of her episodes and at the end of the episode, they read scary Halloween stories. And I had to laugh because, like... these girls are almost 30. Emma Chamberlain has a great podcast and she's her age, I believe. The difference in maturity is HUGE. But like I said, I can't hold that against her. Okay, Emma is 23, just checked. So that's even worse, LOL. I'm just curious how you know it is not work ethic? I mean I watched many of her podcasts and tried to like it and support it. But she would just decide not to do a podcast and not even notify followers. In my book that has more to do with work ethic than direction. If you can't do it, at least notify followers. Her epidsode is coming up on Friday and she put out one teaser in four months. That is work ethic, not direction. I also don't buy it is a hobby. Most people do not try to generate revenue from a hobby, that is called a side gig. If you look at the podcast, as I have, she did have a vision, it just is not a successful one. The concept is her sharing tidbits of her life and relating it to some of the things we see in mainstream media. Like when the big hoopla was made about Taylor Swift dramatically cheering on her boyfriend at the football game and eating chicken fingers with ranch. (Yes, she spent a lot of time talking about this) and then the day after that podcast, Hailie went to a Detroit Lions game with her dad and he was hooping and hollering and she shared a picture of chicken fingers and ranch and made a comment similar to the one made about Taylor Swift in the media. Then she has the shady stories, which is suppose to be the anchor of the podcast and tie in its moniker, which is suppsoe to be a double entendre. To represent her being a young version of Slim Shady and having people share their shady stories. I think she has a definitive plan but the delivery is not working. I do feel like their content is slightly juvenile, but that could be because of their upbringing being more sheltered. But I also don't think she has a very deep personality, just from how she interviews guests and holds conversation on the podcast.+ |
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