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Post by me on Aug 12, 2024 6:17:51 GMT -5
I'm curious, how will everyone feel if she says nothing or close to nothing about her dad on this new season? On the other hand, how will everyone feel if she talks about him a bunch or invites him on there for an interview (like traci said above)? If she says nothing about her dad regarding the wedding, Ill be disappointed - not gonna lie. And I am secretly hoping for an interview, that would be so cute š¤ lol how funny would it be if Bizarre actually goes on it? I hope she talks about the wedding on her podcast, and I hope sheād share something about her dad. I would also be a bit disappointed if she doesnāt mention him at all, but at the same time Iām not expecting long stories about him, lol. Iām just scared sheāll save that kind of material for patreonā¦ Iād also love for her to say something about Temporary tbh. She doesnāt need to say much but even a tiniest little comment š I doubt an interview with him would happen somehowā¦ Iād love it tho!
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Post by newbie on Aug 12, 2024 10:54:20 GMT -5
I'm curious, how will everyone feel if she says nothing or close to nothing about her dad on this new season? On the other hand, how will everyone feel if she talks about him a bunch or invites him on there for an interview (like traci said above)? If she says nothing about her dad regarding the wedding, Ill be disappointed - not gonna lie. And I am secretly hoping for an interview, that would be so cute š¤ lol how funny would it be if Bizarre actually goes on it? If she does bring dad on then later if she brings up or acts like she canāt talk about her dad why did she bother acting like it was an issue to begin with??? Sheās selective. Also if she canāt make it good/successful without bringing bizzare and guests that are tied to her dad on then why is it her podcast? Might as well be āget shady with shadyā and save us the middle person - her.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 12, 2024 12:22:33 GMT -5
I'm curious, how will everyone feel if she says nothing or close to nothing about her dad on this new season? On the other hand, how will everyone feel if she talks about him a bunch or invites him on there for an interview (like traci said above)? If she says nothing about her dad regarding the wedding, Ill be disappointed - not gonna lie. And I am secretly hoping for an interview, that would be so cute š¤ lol how funny would it be if Bizarre actually goes on it? Personally, I think the show would have been cool if she brought on celebs to share their shady secrets. But that is neither here nor there. I think it would be okay if she brought ehr dad on if she had not made a point to say on the podcast she is tired of peopel asking about ehr dad and that she has more to offer. If she bring him on now, it's definitely to help her fledgling podcast. Same with if Bizarre comes on her podcast. He already mentioned her on Eminem's album. He makes NO SENSE for her brand. Anything at this point she does to use her dad makes it look weird since she made it clear she doesn't want to just be known as his daughter. I think it would be okay if she mentions the wedding and shares all of her family including her dad, because the podcast claims to also be about ehr life, s it would make sense, as a wedding is a huge part of her life. But to interview him and/r bizarre would definitely be pandering to Em's Stans, in my opinion.
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Post by adele on Aug 12, 2024 16:47:57 GMT -5
Hailie didn't release those pictures. Eminem's team did. & TMZ makes a lot of sense, actually... it's the only major outlet that makes sense for Eminem because the Stans certainly aren't checking for Vogue. I knew they'd release a picture or two... simply - that's how it's done when you want to mantain privacy. You give the public a crumb just to satisfy the curiosity & in return, they'll leave you alone. Also, I don't even think they took money for those pictures... sometimes, people would give the pictures & the outlet would profit off of engagement.
I'm actually surprised to see how different y'all are reading that move.
I very much doubt she'll interview her father on the podcast because that would be a podcast - suicide. That one episode would blow up & people would ALWAYS expect famous guests and therefore, the podcast would die quickly. This way... she keeps people guessing so they keep coming back.
I think she'll keep mentioning him like always. Casually, like we all casually mention our fathers and mothers here and there. Because people forget that's who he is to her - a dad.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 12, 2024 20:37:02 GMT -5
Hailie didn't release those pictures. Eminem's team did. & TMZ makes a lot of sense, actually... it's the only major outlet that makes sense for Eminem because the Stans certainly aren't checking for Vogue. I knew they'd release a picture or two... simply - that's how it's done when you want to mantain privacy. You give the public a crumb just to satisfy the curiosity & in return, they'll leave you alone. Also, I don't even think they took money for those pictures... sometimes, people would give the pictures & the outlet would profit off of engagement. I'm actually surprised to see how different y'all are reading that move. I very much doubt she'll interview her father on the podcast because that would be a podcast - suicide. That one episode would blow up & people would ALWAYS expect famous guests and therefore, the podcast would die quickly. This way... she keeps people guessing so they keep coming back. I think she'll keep mentioning him like always. Casually, like we all casually mention our fathers and mothers here and there. Because people forget that's who he is to her - a dad. I agree that Em's people released the pics, but a TMZ is good if he wants to reach his fans base and it was about him, but if he wanted to help his daughter (which is what I think), the better strategy would have been a Vogue or similar magazine so she can grow her own fan base. I bet she got very few followers from TMZ, like you said, probably a lot of his fan base is there and they already follow her hoping to get glimpse of him or info about him. Alaina and People made more sense because her organic audience would be there. But if the strategy was to release those images in conjunction with his album release, then yes, that makes sense. I still think they were paid for those images. Why would you not sell something worth money to something like TMZ? Just my opinion. Also, if the goal was to feed fans something to satisfy them, why were no images shared with him and Alaina for her wedding? Maybe she didn't want it and Hailie did?
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Post by newbie on Aug 12, 2024 20:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 13, 2024 0:10:34 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon.
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Post by adele on Aug 13, 2024 1:46:02 GMT -5
Hailie didn't release those pictures. Eminem's team did. & TMZ makes a lot of sense, actually... it's the only major outlet that makes sense for Eminem because the Stans certainly aren't checking for Vogue. I knew they'd release a picture or two... simply - that's how it's done when you want to mantain privacy. You give the public a crumb just to satisfy the curiosity & in return, they'll leave you alone. Also, I don't even think they took money for those pictures... sometimes, people would give the pictures & the outlet would profit off of engagement. I'm actually surprised to see how different y'all are reading that move. I very much doubt she'll interview her father on the podcast because that would be a podcast - suicide. That one episode would blow up & people would ALWAYS expect famous guests and therefore, the podcast would die quickly. This way... she keeps people guessing so they keep coming back. I think she'll keep mentioning him like always. Casually, like we all casually mention our fathers and mothers here and there. Because people forget that's who he is to her - a dad. I agree that Em's people released the pics, but a TMZ is good if he wants to reach his fans base and it was about him, but if he wanted to help his daughter (which is what I think), the better strategy would have been a Vogue or similar magazine so she can grow her own fan base. I bet she got very few followers from TMZ, like you said, probably a lot of his fan base is there and they already follow her hoping to get glimpse of him or info about him. Alaina and People made more sense because her organic audience would be there. But if the strategy was to release those images in conjunction with his album release, then yes, that makes sense. I still think they were paid for those images. Why would you not sell something worth money to something like TMZ?Ā Just my opinion. Also, if the goal was to feed fans something to satisfy them, why were no images shared with him and Alaina for her wedding? Maybe she didn't want it and Hailie did? I don't think the goal was to help Hailie... If he wants to help Hailie, he needs to promote her podcast. The thing is... Em has a HUGE fanbase. And not every fan is a hardcore fan. For example, I know a lot of people who like Eminem but they're not really familiar with his personal life and they have no idea who Alaina is. Like, they do know he adopted some kids but they don't really care about their names & lives. They don't care who he dates. They have no idea Hailie has a podcast. They love his biggest hits & that's it. They'll go see him live but they won't google his daughter to see what she's up to. Stans do that, yes... but not general public. So those pictures didn't really help Hailie, most people looked at them & thought... awww, wow, she's already that old? Awww, that's nice. And they moved along. Those pictures were JUST for Eminem, IMO. That was all Eminem. & they were for general public as much as they were for Stans. It's really about control - you release the pictures to stop media from releasing their own (paps or leakes ones). I don't think TMZ payed for those pictures because... that's EMINEM. I guarantee you TMZ knew about the wedding beforehand and they probably reached out to ask for pictures & if he declined, they would have released paps' or some of the guests. That's TMZ. Those people knew Kobe was dead before his family did. Alaina simply isn't relevant to the public enough for that type of announcement, she is relevant to HIM, that's his daughter & he obviously loves them and treats them all the same but again... to the public, he only has Hailie. And I don't think Alaina approached People, it was probably the other way around. She had a few offers and she went for the best one. I don't really know if Alaina is into influencing since she does have a "normal" job so I honestly don't know what the goal was. Like, when I first read the article, I thought she was in a wedding planning business and was promoting that.
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Post by miarose on Aug 13, 2024 2:18:49 GMT -5
I agree that Em's people released the pics, but a TMZ is good if he wants to reach his fans base and it was about him, but if he wanted to help his daughter (which is what I think), the better strategy would have been a Vogue or similar magazine so she can grow her own fan base. I bet she got very few followers from TMZ, like you said, probably a lot of his fan base is there and they already follow her hoping to get glimpse of him or info about him. Alaina and People made more sense because her organic audience would be there. But if the strategy was to release those images in conjunction with his album release, then yes, that makes sense. I still think they were paid for those images. Why would you not sell something worth money to something like TMZ?Ā Just my opinion. Also, if the goal was to feed fans something to satisfy them, why were no images shared with him and Alaina for her wedding? Maybe she didn't want it and Hailie did? I don't think the goal was to help Hailie... If he wants to help Hailie, he needs to promote her podcast. The thing is... Em has a HUGE fanbase. And not every fan is a hardcore fan. For example, I know a lot of people who like Eminem but they're not really familiar with his personal life and they have no idea who Alaina is. Like, they do know he adopted some kids but they don't really care about their names & lives. They don't care who he dates. They have no idea Hailie has a podcast. They love his biggest hits & that's it. They'll go see him live but they won't google his daughter to see what she's up to. Stans do that, yes... but not general public. So those pictures didn't really help Hailie, most people looked at them & thought... awww, wow, she's already that old? Awww, that's nice. And they moved along. Those pictures were JUST for Eminem, IMO. That was all Eminem. & they were for general public as much as they were for Stans. It's really about control - you release the pictures to stop media from releasing their own (paps or leakes ones). I don't think TMZ payed for those pictures because... that's EMINEM. I guarantee you TMZ knew about the wedding beforehand and they probably reached out to ask for pictures & if he declined, they would have released paps' or some of the guests. That's TMZ. Those people knew Kobe was dead before his family did. Alaina simply isn't relevant to the public enough for that type of announcement, she is relevant to HIM, that's his daughter & he obviously loves them and treats them all the same but again... to the public, he only has Hailie. And I don't think Alaina approached People, it was probably the other way around. She had a few offers and she went for the best one. I don't really know if Alaina is into influencing since she does have a "normal" job so I honestly don't know what the goal was. Like, when I first read the article, I thought she was in a wedding planning business and was promoting that. He slightly mentioned her podcast on his album, but I donāt think regular fans are gonna be scrambling to look for it from that. Someone mentioned earlier that she should have celebs on there to drop their shady stories but lots of other celebs, espesh if self made, arenāt really fans of ānepo babiesā. honestly I donāt think sheāll ever have platform enough for the podcast to actually take off, when you look at the likes of the ācall her daddyā podcasts where celebs come on and spill their secrets and shady stories, itāll just never do it. Plus it was very much what the stans want like getting Nate on there and Alaina. Only the stand wouldāve wanted to see that, and ordinary listeners wouldāve been like ?? ā¦ I mean I canāt fully judge, Iāve only listened to one episode, all the other info I get about it is from here š¤£
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Post by me on Aug 13, 2024 4:16:27 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon. Iām not joining, and I donāt know how it works but I havenāt seen any leaks from her patreon either. With Em, if itās something you have to pay for, I feel like someone always pays and then records and leaks, even just random clips, but I havenāt seen anything from her patreon? Not that Iāve searched, but usually you stumble upon it when you follow Em stuff
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Post by kelllly416 on Aug 13, 2024 4:43:00 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon. No not joining the Patreon. Fuck that lol has she ever used the Patreon content to talk about her dad?
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Post by traci on Aug 13, 2024 6:49:13 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon. I haven't/wont join, but i also do not listen to her podcast - I tried when 1st came out, but personally I cannot relate to the topics.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 13, 2024 9:38:02 GMT -5
I agree that Em's people released the pics, but a TMZ is good if he wants to reach his fans base and it was about him, but if he wanted to help his daughter (which is what I think), the better strategy would have been a Vogue or similar magazine so she can grow her own fan base. I bet she got very few followers from TMZ, like you said, probably a lot of his fan base is there and they already follow her hoping to get glimpse of him or info about him. Alaina and People made more sense because her organic audience would be there. But if the strategy was to release those images in conjunction with his album release, then yes, that makes sense. I still think they were paid for those images. Why would you not sell something worth money to something like TMZ? Just my opinion. Also, if the goal was to feed fans something to satisfy them, why were no images shared with him and Alaina for her wedding? Maybe she didn't want it and Hailie did? I don't think the goal was to help Hailie... If he wants to help Hailie, he needs to promote her podcast. The thing is... Em has a HUGE fanbase. And not every fan is a hardcore fan. For example, I know a lot of people who like Eminem but they're not really familiar with his personal life and they have no idea who Alaina is. Like, they do know he adopted some kids but they don't really care about their names & lives. They don't care who he dates. They have no idea Hailie has a podcast. They love his biggest hits & that's it. They'll go see him live but they won't google his daughter to see what she's up to. Stans do that, yes... but not general public. So those pictures didn't really help Hailie, most people looked at them & thought... awww, wow, she's already that old? Awww, that's nice. And they moved along. Those pictures were JUST for Eminem, IMO. That was all Eminem. & they were for general public as much as they were for Stans. It's really about control - you release the pictures to stop media from releasing their own (paps or leakes ones). I don't think TMZ payed for those pictures because... that's EMINEM. I guarantee you TMZ knew about the wedding beforehand and they probably reached out to ask for pictures & if he declined, they would have released paps' or some of the guests. That's TMZ. Those people knew Kobe was dead before his family did. Alaina simply isn't relevant to the public enough for that type of announcement, she is relevant to HIM, that's his daughter & he obviously loves them and treats them all the same but again... to the public, he only has Hailie. And I don't think Alaina approached People, it was probably the other way around. She had a few offers and she went for the best one. I don't really know if Alaina is into influencing since she does have a "normal" job so I honestly don't know what the goal was. Like, when I first read the article, I thought she was in a wedding planning business and was promoting that. You make some good points and I see where you are coming from. But there are people bigger than Eminem who they stalk even though they have an open line of communication with such as the Kardasians. Now don't get me wrong I don't like them or even follow their shows and activities, but they actually send papps to stalk them even out of the country. Eminem's team does not do enough with TMZ to make me think they would barter a deal with him rather than send someone to stalk him if they wanted those pictures that bad. Matter of fact they NEVER look for him landing at airports, at events, etc. In my opinion, the reason I think they would pay is because of what I call the Eminem affect. The same reason these organizers of boxing matches and these other events that are not necessarily Eminem fans are bringing him aboard. They know he has a large fan base and are trying to quickly capitalize off of it. I think that is what TMZ did. I wouldn't be surpised if he reached out to them like you said, but I think they offered to sell them. The same thing Tom Cruise and Katy Holmes did when they had a baby. They knew everyone wanted a family picture, but they reached out to Vanity Fair and sold it to them for millions. Now, I don't think Eminen's daughters wedding pictures would get that kind of money (his wedding would), but I think it would get some. The man sold two blank white t-shirts for $75 to his fans. I wouldn't doubt he'd sell those pictures to TMZ. TMZ is not checking for Eminem any other time. However, I do agree about Alaina not being as relevant to the media. I would think though if he wanted to give the pics just to calm fans he too would use People, they have a large circulation with better age alignment with his fan base. I think TMZ offered more money. Both People and TMZ have over 80 million visitors online, but People also has a print publication that has its own circulation, that would have made more sense for him. I think the pics went to the highest bidder. I also think he did attempt to promote her podcast, why else would it be mentioned 2-3 times on his album including Bizarre saying he wants to be on her podcast. He didn't even follow her before that album came out.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 13, 2024 9:42:25 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon. Iām not joining, and I donāt know how it works but I havenāt seen any leaks from her patreon either. With Em, if itās something you have to pay for, I feel like someone always pays and then records and leaks, even just random clips, but I havenāt seen anything from her patreon? Not that Iāve searched, but usually you stumble upon it when you follow Em stuff I'm not joining either and I have not seen leaks from her Patreon account either. She actually did a pre-wedding post and fan sites never shared anything, so I assume they didn't watch either. I know for a while she accidently left her member account visible and she had a small following at the time, about 48 people or something like that. So she really is trying to get people to sign up.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Aug 13, 2024 9:50:41 GMT -5
Interesting and the post is telling peopel to sign up for the Patreon before the first episode. She knows exactly what Stans are going to ask for, more information on her dada, the wedding, blah, blah, blah. If that is the case, I feel like bewteen her dad and the $75 white t-shirts with nothing on them and pay to hear about my wedding and my dad, it's just a money grab at this points. I will say she was smart to pause her fee during her hiatus, because peopel would have definitely unsubscribed. I'm curious, anyone going to join her Patreon. No not joining the Patreon. Fuck that lol has she ever used the Patreon content to talk about her dad? I've never watched her Patreon content. I only bought Patreon content once and it wasn't her and or about Eminem. It was fashion related and I just wanted that episode. I think a lot fo peopel subscribe for one piece of content unless they really like the content in general.
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