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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 28, 2022 20:55:41 GMT -5
So interesting everybody has a story and they are consistent on some parts. Didn't Jenny say that Kim was bi but Marshall walked in and found her sleep with another woman and lost it. He was not happy according to her. So the uncle and her friend both said Kim was bi, might be some truth but they differ on Eminem's reaction to it. Hmmmm. I think Kim was probably "cocaine bi", you know what I mean? She probably hasn't been with a girl in 20 years. Or maybe she's bi? That could be the case, but I've never been the one to believe that drinking/drugs made me do it defense. Like if that was true everybody who got drunk or high would have an inclination to do that. I think when someone is under the influence of drugs or alcohol, it brings down their inhibitions and then they do what they secretly desire but not normally would do like some people might want to try and fly off a building while others choose to go sleep with someone of the same sex. I think the desire has to be in them somewhere and the drinking or drugs gives them the courage to act on it. |
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Post by me on Sept 29, 2022 9:41:10 GMT -5
I also think Em wanted to have a more normal relationship.
Byron also said Em would rather lock himself in his hotel room or the bathroom and fight with Kim on the phone, than be with the girls that wanted to “entertain” him and the other dudes
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 29, 2022 10:57:58 GMT -5
I also think Em wanted to have a more normal relationship. Byron also said Em would rather lock himself in his hotel room or the bathroom and fight with Kim on the phone, than be with the girls that wanted to “entertain” him and the other dudes I totally agree, but I hope what him and Kim had is not the norm, because that would signal a bad state for relationships. |
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Post by me on Sept 29, 2022 12:36:38 GMT -5
I also think Em wanted to have a more normal relationship. Byron also said Em would rather lock himself in his hotel room or the bathroom and fight with Kim on the phone, than be with the girls that wanted to “entertain” him and the other dudes I totally agree, but I hope what him and Kim had is not the norm, because that would signal a bad state for relationships. Oh no I think they had a very toxic relationship and are better off not together tbh |
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Post by shimy on Sept 29, 2022 13:25:42 GMT -5
Same! I do think he took advantage at times of the opportunity of women that threw themselves at him but I do think he actually wanted to be in a committed relationship. You are so right. He was even committed to his mistresses. I remember not to long ago watching an interview of him overseas and it was like 1999 after him and Kim got married and Kim didn't travel abroad with him and the interviewer asked him about all the girls flashing him in the audience and did he notice them and he said yes. She then asked him something about meeting them and he was like he couldn't do that because his girl was there and that was the time he was seeing Kesia I believe. Kim was with him that day not Kesia. There’s video of Kim with him and Proof at this festival walking around and watching the motorcycle stuntmen. I can’t remember the name of it but it was a pretty big festival. |
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Post by shimy on Sept 29, 2022 13:30:03 GMT -5
I also think Em wanted to have a more normal relationship. Byron also said Em would rather lock himself in his hotel room or the bathroom and fight with Kim on the phone, than be with the girls that wanted to “entertain” him and the other dudes I totally agree, but I hope what him and Kim had is not the norm, because that would signal a bad state for relationships. Their relationship is and was the norm for tons of people (hello Ben and JLO). I know plenty of grown women/men (in their 30s/40s) who are just like them. It wasn’t healthy but that’s just them. I’ll never say if they should or shouldn’t be together because at the end of the day we only know what we were told we’ll never know the actual truth of their situation. Whatever he decides to do with his love life fans just need to accept that it’s his decision whether it be with Kim or whoever. |
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Post by me on Sept 29, 2022 13:49:15 GMT -5
You are so right. He was even committed to his mistresses. I remember not to long ago watching an interview of him overseas and it was like 1999 after him and Kim got married and Kim didn't travel abroad with him and the interviewer asked him about all the girls flashing him in the audience and did he notice them and he said yes. She then asked him something about meeting them and he was like he couldn't do that because his girl was there and that was the time he was seeing Kesia I believe. Kim was with him that day not Kesia. There’s video of Kim with him and Proof at this festival walking around and watching the motorcycle stuntmen. I can’t remember the name of it but it was a pretty big festival. It was the Warped Tour |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 29, 2022 14:50:01 GMT -5
You are so right. He was even committed to his mistresses. I remember not to long ago watching an interview of him overseas and it was like 1999 after him and Kim got married and Kim didn't travel abroad with him and the interviewer asked him about all the girls flashing him in the audience and did he notice them and he said yes. She then asked him something about meeting them and he was like he couldn't do that because his girl was there and that was the time he was seeing Kesia I believe. Kim was with him that day not Kesia. There’s video of Kim with him and Proof at this festival walking around and watching the motorcycle stuntmen. I can’t remember the name of it but it was a pretty big festival. Thanks for the update shimy ! I could have sworn Kim said she never traveled out of the country on a tour with him AND so weird he would call his wife his girl. That's a demotion in title.  |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Sept 29, 2022 15:00:26 GMT -5
I totally agree, but I hope what him and Kim had is not the norm, because that would signal a bad state for relationships. Their relationship is and was the norm for tons of people (hello Ben and JLO). I know plenty of grown women/men (in their 30s/40s) who are just like them. It wasn’t healthy but that’s just them. I’ll never say if they should or shouldn’t be together because at the end of the day we only know what we were told we’ll never know the actual truth of their situation. Whatever he decides to do with his love life fans just need to accept that it’s his decision whether it be with Kim or whoever. Actually, I could care less who he actually dates, its just interesting fodder since he put their business out there. I had no clue Ben and JLo had a volatile relationship (don't follow them). But I think people should stop normalizing these type of relationships, even calling it normal. I've been in a few weddings as well as invited to too many to count and have only encountered one dysfunctional relationship like that and it ended in divorce, like it should have. This hasn't happened in my family or any of my friends family, that is what I choose to normalize as a healthy relationship. Don't get me wrong, all relationships have challenges, but when they get volatile, time to say bye-bye. It's bad for the people involved as well as those in their lives such as children, relatives and friends. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2022 15:21:33 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion here but I don't think he's a relationship guy at all lol. I think he stayed with Kim as long as he did because she was basically all he had for a long time. It was just comfortable for him. He cheated on her and has yet to go public with anyone else. I'm sure he dates here and there but mostly sticks to flings. He "complains" in songs about not being able to get into a relationship but I think thats mostly just bs and maintaining an image. They want him to seem desirable to single women, just like initially in his career when he tried to keep Kim a secret but Christina let it out he was married and he got pissed lol. He has access to basically any woman young, old, rich, poor, etc. I find it hard to believe he could never find another relationship especially when all of his peers have. I'm sure he just enjoys being single or dates around without much commitment needed from his part.
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Post by vickvaporub on Sept 29, 2022 15:48:28 GMT -5
Unpopular opinion here but I don't think he's a relationship guy at all lol. I think he stayed with Kim as long as he did because she was basically all he had for a long time. It was just comfortable for him. He cheated on her and has yet to go public with anyone else. I'm sure he dates here and there but mostly sticks to flings. He "complains" in songs about not being able to get into a relationship but I think thats mostly just bs and maintaining an image. They want him to seem desirable to single women, just like initially in his career when he tried to keep Kim a secret but Christina let it out he was married and he got pissed lol. He has access to basically any woman young, old, rich, poor, etc. I find it hard to believe he could never find another relationship especially when all of his peers have. I'm sure he just enjoys being single or dates around without much commitment needed from his part. I agree with you and I think he is pretty self aware about that because he references it a lot in his music too, he complains about women but recognizes he is not better, he won't be a good partner so it's better to remain "casual" |
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Post by vickvaporub on Sept 29, 2022 15:58:49 GMT -5
Their relationship is and was the norm for tons of people (hello Ben and JLO). I know plenty of grown women/men (in their 30s/40s) who are just like them. It wasn’t healthy but that’s just them. I’ll never say if they should or shouldn’t be together because at the end of the day we only know what we were told we’ll never know the actual truth of their situation. Whatever he decides to do with his love life fans just need to accept that it’s his decision whether it be with Kim or whoever. Actually, I could care less who he actually dates, its just interesting fodder since he put their business out there. I had no clue Ben and JLo had a volatile relationship (don't follow them). But I think people should stop normalizing these type of relationships, even calling it normal. I've been in a few weddings as well as invited to too many to count and have only encountered one dysfunctional relationship like that and it ended in divorce, like it should have. This hasn't happened in my family or any of my friends family, that is what I choose to normalize as a healthy relationship. Don't get me wrong, all relationships have challenges, but when they get volatile, time to say bye-bye. It's bad for the people involved as well as those in their lives such as children, relatives and friends. I think those relationships were more common "back in the day" and today we have higher standards. But not everyone knows or recognizes when it's time to stop, like in Em and Kim's case I don't know if they had a lot of healthy relationships around to realize they were getting to far in their toxicity. |
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Post by summertimelive on Sept 29, 2022 16:12:26 GMT -5
Actually, I could care less who he actually dates, its just interesting fodder since he put their business out there. I had no clue Ben and JLo had a volatile relationship (don't follow them). But I think people should stop normalizing these type of relationships, even calling it normal. I've been in a few weddings as well as invited to too many to count and have only encountered one dysfunctional relationship like that and it ended in divorce, like it should have. This hasn't happened in my family or any of my friends family, that is what I choose to normalize as a healthy relationship. Don't get me wrong, all relationships have challenges, but when they get volatile, time to say bye-bye. It's bad for the people involved as well as those in their lives such as children, relatives and friends. I think those relationships were more common "back in the day" and today we have higher standards. But not everyone knows or recognizes when it's time to stop, like in Em and Kim's case I don't know if they had a lot of healthy relationships around to realize they were getting to far in their toxicity. I agree. I think that as he got older and SOBER, he started to realize the relationship wasn't the move he thought it was.
But I disagree that he isn't a relationship person. Two things can be true. While of course he always admits his own faults and problems in relationships. It still also appears that he would LIKE to have a great relationship with someone that he loves. He just hasn't had the LUCK with it, like he said in spacebound. But just because someone doesn't have that luck, doesn't mean they don't desire it. He said his lack of luck in relationships sucked.
So, I don't think it's the fact that he isn't a relationship person. He just isn't an easy person to date. He is a complex person himself. And its clear his expectations are probably higher than they should be for a fella like him lol. And I think thats why although he dates its nothing he has been public with yet, because its probably hard as hell for him to find that one. He isn't for everyone, and everyone isn't for him. It's not easy for someone like him to have a relationship he think is worth going public with. He rarely liked doing that anyway. Everyone knew who kim was eventually but we can count on one hand MAYBE a half hands, how many times we saw her with him physically out of soo many years.
As far as him and kim goes,people should let that hurt go. Because even he/they have.
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Post by vickvaporub on Sept 29, 2022 18:33:13 GMT -5
I think those relationships were more common "back in the day" and today we have higher standards. But not everyone knows or recognizes when it's time to stop, like in Em and Kim's case I don't know if they had a lot of healthy relationships around to realize they were getting to far in their toxicity. I agree. I think that as he got older and SOBER, he started to realize the relationship wasn't the move he thought it was.
But I disagree that he isn't a relationship person. Two things can be true. While of course he always admits his own faults and problems in relationships. It still also appears that he would LIKE to have a great relationship with someone that he loves. He just hasn't had the LUCK with it, like he said in spacebound. But just because someone doesn't have that luck, doesn't mean they don't desire it. He said his lack of luck in relationships sucked.
So, I don't think it's the fact that he isn't a relationship person. He just isn't an easy person to date. He is a complex person himself. And its clear his expectations are probably higher than they should be for a fella like him lol. And I think thats why although he dates its nothing he has been public with yet, because its probably hard as hell for him to find that one. He isn't for everyone, and everyone isn't for him. It's not easy for someone like him to have a relationship he think is worth going public with. He rarely liked doing that anyway. Everyone knew who kim was eventually but we can count on one hand MAYBE a half hands, how many times we saw her with him physically out of soo many years.
As far as him and kim goes,people should let that hurt go. Because even he/they have.
That's the difference I see, he WANTS to be a relationship person, but it's just too difficult for him to actually do it so he is not. I'm not saying he is resigned to never find a significant other (and I honestly hope he finds someone) but if getting new friends is super hard for him, imagine trying to find a partner like  Of course it's possible in reality he is nothing like we imagine, maybe he goes out with no bodyguards, meets new people everyday, he is not trapped in his house/studio obsessing over syllables and rhyming and he is just a regular 50 year old having casual dates every now and then, who knows? xD |
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Post by summertimelive on Sept 29, 2022 19:37:12 GMT -5
I agree. I think that as he got older and SOBER, he started to realize the relationship wasn't the move he thought it was.
But I disagree that he isn't a relationship person. Two things can be true. While of course he always admits his own faults and problems in relationships. It still also appears that he would LIKE to have a great relationship with someone that he loves. He just hasn't had the LUCK with it, like he said in spacebound. But just because someone doesn't have that luck, doesn't mean they don't desire it. He said his lack of luck in relationships sucked.
So, I don't think it's the fact that he isn't a relationship person. He just isn't an easy person to date. He is a complex person himself. And its clear his expectations are probably higher than they should be for a fella like him lol. And I think thats why although he dates its nothing he has been public with yet, because its probably hard as hell for him to find that one. He isn't for everyone, and everyone isn't for him. It's not easy for someone like him to have a relationship he think is worth going public with. He rarely liked doing that anyway. Everyone knew who kim was eventually but we can count on one hand MAYBE a half hands, how many times we saw her with him physically out of soo many years.
As far as him and kim goes,people should let that hurt go. Because even he/they have.
That's the difference I see, he WANTS to be a relationship person, but it's just too difficult for him to actually do it so he is not. I'm not saying he is resigned to never find a significant other (and I honestly hope he finds someone) but if getting new friends is super hard for him, imagine trying to find a partner like Of course it's possible in reality he is nothing like we imagine, maybe he goes out with no bodyguards, meets new people everyday, he is not trapped in his house/studio obsessing over syllables and rhyming and he is just a regular 50 year old having casual dates every now and then, who knows? xD
Yeah he is def an enigma. People probably only have him like HALF way figured out, if that LOL. He's done a good job at letting people have their own ideas of him but not giving them enough to know what he is like for sure and what he does with himself outside of music.
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