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Post by original on Aug 26, 2021 1:10:38 GMT -5
tcat I never said that they are together. I only said that they have been off and on during these years. Her mom said it, his music has implied it. Right now I don’t know if they together, but I truly find her Facebook very fishy because it debuted around the time music to be murder 2 came out, and one of her first selfies was she wearing a beard facemask like imitating Em’s beard. 😄😄😄😂 And she has been giving him shady indirects too. In one post, she Called him super hero you say you care but you are not there for me. Very weird. I don’t know if they are currently together, but I think Em said that he will always check on her. I think he said that in Going through changes. So, please if I think he was there for her at her mother’s funeral he did it because they are family to him. I don’t see his generosity as he was there only because he loves Kim romantically. I think he considers Kim his family no matter what. They grew up together since she was 13. And I believe he was there because not even one friend of Kim was allowed to upload photos of the funeral and you know everyone has access to iPhone and cameras. They respected their privacy a lot.
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Post by matty on Aug 26, 2021 1:19:31 GMT -5
to me it seems like Em is more of the dependable parent and they rely on him more over the past few years.
Hailie apparently is always at his studio working out and Alaina eluded that they are close on instagram. Plus going to his concerts and such.
I think its clear Kim is going through a lot for the past ten years and sometimes that makes you a non reliable parent- she tried to kill herslef twice and other stories about her have popped up. I think they love her but I also think she drains them. Just like when Kim wouldn't let them see Em in the hospital after his overdose? And he had to battle his demons I think its been reversed for the past decade (like since relapse/recovery). Imagine being Alaina losing both biological parents and feeling the constant threat your going to lose Kim? Sometimes u distanced yourself before you get hurt after trying to help time and time again. Em yes had/has his demons but he does seem to use mechanisms to stay healthy for the most part and stay sober. Even though those mechanisms might make him live in a bubble (but thats for another discussion). Heck even KIM said Em was a great parent even when she was on her interview press run and Em was struggling with drugs.
yell at me if you want for not being sensitive but I'm not the one who even wanted the recording to be on here. And coming for Em's kids grinds my gears.
And the reality is if Em hasn't been seeing Kim for the past 8-10ish years (which to me seems very plausible) he really does not have the obligation to save her (yes that sounds evil but its a lot deeper than just being something black and white)- he might be mentally fragile himself and to continue to be a good parent he has to protect his sanity more- Kim has always brought out the crazy in him(for lack of a better word). I am sure he offers support - friendship and money but keeps a distance since the responsible thing to do is make sure he is mentally healthy and I think it clear by Ems music at least that he struggles himself. If you can't take care of yourself how are u going to be a dependable parent or heck run a business that employees s shit ton of people? So he knows that Kim triggers him...so he keeps his distance so he doesnt relapse/or get depressed/or whatever. Yes I am sure if he could snap his fingers and fix her he would...but he is human after all. I also think Em really is surrounded by his people a lot more than he was in like say 2014...there was a shift around that time imo. So that could play into it as well and Em just really focuses on his career (he seems obsessed with it lately) and his kids and thats pretty much it.
Heck! Perhaps Kim wants to get Ems attention and maybe original is right she leaked shit but not because Em said so lol. And yes I am prepared for angry typing after that sentence lol.
(just fyi I don't think the last part is true lol I am just saying its just as plausible as everything else being spewed at this point).
Also I think Em was in cali when all this shit was going down so there's fucking that.
Anyway I will let y'all have this thread back. I am just saying things aren't black and white. yes Kim needs help. But no I don't think Em is swooping down to save her. I hope she has some intense therapy dude. Most people would need it if they had her life.
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Post by original on Aug 26, 2021 1:31:21 GMT -5
The thing is that she always gets this crazy when Em And her break up. He seems to be the person who can make her act normal. And I think Kim is the leader of the house. She has always been there for their daughters, so I’m very disappointed in how they don’t care for her now. We are supposed to help our parents when they need us the most. And I don’t think she has always been this mentally crazy these past 10 years because these photos are from the 2010s and she looks very normal, supportive and more steady than now.. http://instagram.com/p/CSPiVSvLLfd I believe that losing her mom, dad and sister in 5 years have affected her mentally, but it’s very normal. 💔 |
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Post by snootchy on Aug 26, 2021 1:31:41 GMT -5
Hailie apparently is always at his studio working out and Alaina eluded that they are close on instagram. Plus going to his concerts and such.
Does he have a gym in the studio?
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Post by matty on Aug 26, 2021 1:33:40 GMT -5
Hailie apparently is always at his studio working out and Alaina eluded that they are close on instagram. Plus going to his concerts and such.
Does he have a gym in the studio?
according to the twitter people. People saw she was in it when she posted a pic on instagram. It was like a private small gym and a couple Stans confirmed it was his studio gym. I think its connected to he building or something. |
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Post by matty on Aug 26, 2021 1:38:13 GMT -5
The thing is that she always gets this crazy when Em And her break up. He seems to be the person who can make her act normal. And I think Kim is the leader of the house. She has always been there for their daughters, so I’m very disappointed in how they don’t care for her now. We are supposed to help our parents when they need us the most. And I don’t think she has been this mentally crazy these past 10 years because these photos are from the 2010s and she looks very normal, supportive and more steady than now.. http://instagr.am/p/CSPiVSvLLfd I believe that losing her mom, dad and sister in 5 years have affected her mentally, but it’s very normal. 💔 Kim tried to kill herself and drove drunk in 2016 if my math is right Alaina graduated around that time (2015ish?) pics can be deceiving now I shall bow out before I say something mean. IM TRYING TO BE NICE & MATURE MATTY DAMN IT! |
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Post by infinity on Aug 26, 2021 1:43:31 GMT -5
The thing is that she always gets this crazy when Em And her break up. He seems to be the person who can make her act normal. And I think Kim is the leader of the house. She has always been there for their daughters, so I’m very disappointed in how they don’t care for her now. We are supposed to help our parents when they need us the most. And I don’t think she has been this mentally crazy these past 10 years because these photos are from the 2010s and she looks very normal, supportive and more steady than now.. http://instagr.am/p/CSPiVSvLLfd I believe that losing her mom, dad and sister in 5 years have affected her mentally, but it’s very normal. 💔 Kim tried to kill herself and drove drunk in 2016 if my math is right Alaina graduated around that time (2015ish?) pics can be deceiving now I shall bow out before I say something mean. IM TRYING TO BE NICE & MATURE MATTY DAMN IT! I never smile in the pictures. Does this mean I am depressed ? No I am very happy in my life. So you are right pics can be deceiving and don't mean anything |
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Post by original on Aug 26, 2021 1:49:48 GMT -5
matty I know that pictures are deceiving, but I’m just trying to prove you that their daughters haven’t depended on Em only in these past years. These photos prove that Kim has been there for them too while Em goes to work. There are also photos celebrating Whitney’s birthday and that happened after her car accident attempt, but we know she is a woman who suffers of depression. I think we need to ask ourselves why Em dedicated to her Bad husband in 2017? I refused to believe he did it because he left her in 2006. I think there’s a reason why he feels guilty of Kim’s depression. Em says she is his light when the days are dark; so to me bad husband is a low key love song, but we ignored the fact that Em exposed himself too. He and Kim have been together. There’s no way you tell those phrases to an ex that you hate so much.
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Post by matty on Aug 26, 2021 2:21:57 GMT -5
The thing is that she always gets this crazy when Em And her break up. He seems to be the person who can make her act normal. And I think Kim is the leader of the house. She has always been there for their daughters, so I’m very disappointed in how they don’t care for her now. We are supposed to help our parents when they need us the most. And I don’t think she has always been this mentally crazy these past 10 years because these photos are from the 2010s and she looks very normal, supportive and more steady than now.. http://instagr.am/p/CSPiVSvLLfd I believe that losing her mom, dad and sister in 5 years have affected her mentally, but it’s very normal. 💔 where.in.my.post.did.i.say.he.hated.her. yes. I am sure he feels bad for being a shitty ass husband. I am sure he asks himself that everyday- there are ppl that I feel like I could have been a better friend too- doesnt mean I am calling them- I just wish I did better and wonder why I acted like I did but I also know we don't work as friends. Bad Husband is a closure song hence: Another blow struck But there's no ducking this blow 'Cause it's over And it's closure I'm not so sure how to close this Kamikaze, MTBMB Side A&B really have no reference to Kim. Again I am NOT saying its impossible that they get back together...but Em seems to be obsessed with his music since 2017...fucking wives and pissing off husbands and collecting rare tapes. 2014 yeah I could see them fucking and going back and forth. but that was 8 years ago. I don't think he even went back to cali after everything. He was still there during the last court date and didnt seem to have plans to leave anytime soon. I am sure he cared and checked on her but come on man...idk. anyway I am done now. SORRY! I will go back to SH thread! fuck royce.  |
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Post by original on Aug 26, 2021 3:40:17 GMT -5
matty do you think he was this heartless and missed the funeral of the only present grandmother of their children? I honestly don’t think Em is this bad person. I feel like that he is a family man with a big heart. Proof of that: he was supposed to be the host of his radio and he only briefly spoke after the death of Kathy. I feel like he has a private jet and took 2 days of his busy schedule and was there, otherwise Kim could have told tmz, “my ex wasn’t there for his kids, etc. I think Kim is very resentful in that aspect, so I believe she would have posted another extra shady post on Facebook exposing him.🙂🙂 On bad husband: you clearly said it” I’m not sure to close this chapter.” In other words, again the chapter of their story didht end in that song cause he wasn’t sure how to close it. It was like this story to be continued. . He was unsure that it was going to be the end. And in kamikaze we have normal, good guy, nice guy for Kim. Music to be murder: farewell, black magic, an indirect in Those kind of nights.” Very interesting how Em explains his songs! He is such a great song writer. He loves to give us details to analyze. 😄
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Post by matty on Aug 26, 2021 3:56:58 GMT -5
matty do you think he was this heartless and missed the funeral of the only present grandmother of their children? I honestly don’t think Em is this bad person. I feel like that he is a family man with a big heart. Proof of that: he was supposed to be the host of his radio and he only briefly spoke after the death of Kathy. I feel like he has a private jet and took 2 days of his busy schedule and was there, otherwise Kim could have told tmz, “my ex wasn’t there for his kids, etc. I think Kim is very resentful in that aspect, so I believe she would have posted another extra shady post on Facebook exposing him.🙂🙂 On bad husband: you clearly said it” I’m not sure to close this chapter.” In other words, again he the chapter of their story didht end. He was unsure that it was going to be the end. Very interesting how Em explains his songs! He is such a deep song writer. He loves to give us details to analyze. 😄 Yes yes I could see him missing the funeral. And no that doesn’t make him a bad person. Families are complicated. I don’t think he even went to his uncles who passed a while ago. My sister didn’t go to our moms. Some ppl grieve differently or maybe he wasn’t close to her anymore and the end of the song is referencing to how to close the song hence it being the last line prior to the chorus. He legit says “it’s over” referring to the relationship there’s not arguing dude. Bad Husband is clearly a closure song dude. Idk what else to tell u. The next year he is talking about sleeping with women on kamikaze and especially mtbmb. And If Em attended a funeral someone would have leaked it by now since everything else seems to be leaking. again who knows they might get back together. I think it would be stupid of them but I don’t think their relationship is as black and white as ur making it. agian it’s been 15ish years since there last divorce. Stronger than I was seems to be the last real song about her besides bad husband and it didn’t seem like he was even happy then. Going into ur bedroom to cry is never a good sign. and don’t make me dissect that song cuz u will hate me even more |
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Post by stefanie on Aug 26, 2021 4:06:07 GMT -5
Believe whatever you want cause nobody here can change your mind anyway. I only will add that whats said often isnt true or at least not the whole Story. Ok. But you need to admit that you might be wrong too. In this photo from 2013, Em and Kim attended to Whitney’s graduation. Contrary to popular opinion, in Detroit nobody makes a big deal if Em is famous, they treat him like a normal person. Look at him, he is among the crowd filming his younger daughter. My question is if Kim and Em can’t stand to see each other and are not close, how he had the courage to go with her ex Kim to their daughter’s graduation like they never had a nasty second divorce? 😊 I think Em and Kathy didn’t lie when they said that Em and Kim were great friends during that time. This contradicts the old theories that at that time Kim was dating her supposed off and on bf, because no normal man lets his lady alone to go with her ex husband while he stays at home. Kim and Em left that school together and there are photos. 😌 I dont have to admit anything. I never said they didnt talk from the divorce. I always said they both were there when the kids were younger. According to people who claim to know the contact got less once the girls were grown and moved out cause him and Kim just didnt have much reason to talk anymore. I also never said they hated each other or couldnt stand sitting next to each other at a family Event. Dont try to twist my words to get a reply from me that matches your narrative cause you picked the wrong Person. Once again, you are free to believe whatever you want but you should accept that some members here dont agree. Its called different opinions as we all can only base our judgement on the little information thats out. Thats it for me cause I dont feel like repeating myself. Look for someone else to annoy |
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Post by stefanie on Aug 26, 2021 4:08:36 GMT -5
Does he have a gym in the studio?
according to the twitter people. People saw she was in it when she posted a pic on instagram. It was like a private small gym and a couple Stans confirmed it was his studio gym. I think its connected to he building or something. One Hailie Fan Account said its the Studio of a personal trainer |
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Post by me on Aug 26, 2021 4:11:06 GMT -5
matty do you think he was this heartless and missed the funeral of the only present grandmother of their children? I honestly don’t think Em is this bad person. I feel like that he is a family man with a big heart. Proof of that: he was supposed to be the host of his radio and he only briefly spoke after the death of Kathy. I feel like he has a private jet and took 2 days of his busy schedule and was there, otherwise Kim could have told tmz, “my ex wasn’t there for his kids, etc. I think Kim is very resentful in that aspect, so I believe she would have posted another extra shady post on Facebook exposing him.🙂🙂 On bad husband: you clearly said it” I’m not sure to close this chapter.” In other words, again he the chapter of their story didht end. He was unsure that it was going to be the end. Very interesting how Em explains his songs! He is such a deep song writer. He loves to give us details to analyze. 😄 Yes yes I could see him missing the funeral. And no that doesn’t make him a bad person. Families are complicated. I don’t think he even went to his uncles who passed a while ago. My sister didn’t go to our moms. Some ppl grieve differently or maybe he wasn’t close to her anymore and the end of the song is referencing to how to close the song hence it being the last line prior to the chorus. He legit says “it’s over” referring to the relationship there’s not arguing dude. Bad Husband is clearly a closure song dude. Idk what else to tell u. The next year he is talking about sleeping with women on kamikaze and especially mtbmb. And If Em attended a funeral someone would have leaked it by now since everything else seems to be leaking. again who knows they might get back together. I think it would be stupid of them but I don’t think their relationship is as black and white as ur making it. agian it’s been 15ish years since there last divorce. Stronger than I was seems to be the last real song about her besides bad husband and it didn’t seem like he was even happy then. Going into ur bedroom to cry is never a good sign. and don’t make me dissect that song cuz u will hate me even more He didn’t even go to his own great aunt Edna’s funeral, who he described as the only person he could ever trust and has been there for him, because he didn’t want the attention on him at her funeral |
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Post by stefanie on Aug 26, 2021 4:12:16 GMT -5
matty do you think he was this heartless and missed the funeral of the only present grandmother of their children? I honestly don’t think Em is this bad person. I feel like that he is a family man with a big heart. Proof of that: he was supposed to be the host of his radio and he only briefly spoke after the death of Kathy. I feel like he has a private jet and took 2 days of his busy schedule and was there, otherwise Kim could have told tmz, “my ex wasn’t there for his kids, etc. I think Kim is very resentful in that aspect, so I believe she would have posted another extra shady post on Facebook exposing him.🙂🙂 On bad husband: you clearly said it” I’m not sure to close this chapter.” In other words, again the chapter of their story didht end in that song cause he wasn’t sure how to close it. It was like this story to be continued. . He was unsure that it was going to be the end. And in kamikaze we have normal, good guy, nice guy for Kim. Music to be murder: farewell, black magic, an indirect in Those kind of nights.” Very interesting how Em explains his songs! He is such a great song writer. He loves to give us details to analyze. 😄 He missed funerals of his own close relatives cause he didnt want to catch all the attention or cause a scene. Sometimes staying away is a form of showing respect. He can support his girls without being at a funeral. |
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