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Post by space on Jul 23, 2024 1:48:40 GMT -5
He added fuel to the fire /no doubt/, but considering how many times she almost burned down, his role in all of this was much smaller than one might think. The woman has mental problems, it's been known for a long time, but no one has touched her for a long time from his side, he only helps her, and see what happens to her. Paradoxical as it sounds, I'm not defending him! In addition to the fact of addiction to opiates and alcohol, she can also be very manipulative, it is very difficult with her, because the situation changes from day to day, regardless of her ex-husband, who has been very considerate for a long time and does not want any contact with her, only financial transactions/ bottomless pit/. The way she's been holding herself lately should be praised, and now the question is how long it will last. Because of her condition, she is often handicapped, so she cannot work And the discussion about her condition can last indefinitely, because she has never been on a green branch for at least a year, maybe she will last now and good luck to that! Problems in her and around her, all the time! Her son is very demanding, but somehow she/they manage, she has a lot of help, she is a good mother, she cares a lot when she can.
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 10, 2024 5:03:12 GMT -5
I personally don’t think Em or the kids are super close to Kim. Sometimes u make adult decisions as u get older and outside looking in it looks harsh and mean but that’s because ppl don’t see everything u went through behind the scenes . I love my dad but sometimes I keep my distance for my mental health and I have my reasons. Ppl don’t know the years that led up to my decision I really really really hope gets help and get involved in intense therapy. She seems like she really needs it and I don’t blame her. She had a tough life I disagree. To my surprise they celebrated Hailie’s 25 years at Kim’s house and a couple of months before her mom’s death, Kim uploaded a video where she is celebrating with her mom and the girls and their bfs are there. Kim was in charge and looked like the leader of that family. She was the one who keeps that family United and together. There are many many photos of Kim with the girls in events together, but the one who is never there, but I think he is hidden is Eminem. Therefore, I find it very odd that the girls were not there for Kim when she had that breakdown which is totally normal for some people who are very attached to their family. Kim and her mom were super close. 💪Kim took care of her while she was in a wheelchair, so Kim did a lot of hard work these past years. I think that the kids are very close to both parents , after all even if they're divorced they're still they're parents.That's just my opinion but as i can see they celebrate events like Christmas and so on at both of their houses, like on Hailie's podcast when they talked about how Evan proposed to her , he said he followed Em downstairs to get her bday cake so it's obvious he was always there for his daughters bday,maybe at his house idk. I saw some pics from Easter and Thanksgiving with the girls at Em's house and some at Kim's house for ex. It's common with divorced couples that the kids are going to celebrate "2 events at the same time".There are also a lot of pics from events where the girls are with him so ig they're close with him too. I think when they do these events at someone's house is normal that person looks like "the leader" but i dissagree that Kim was the one who kept that family united. She and Em are "coparents" for a reason after all. But i agree with the fact that Kim had a tought life and imo deserves more support or more understanding (from the fans). |
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Post by space on Aug 10, 2024 8:21:37 GMT -5
Kim has done incomparably, more bad things to her life than others have done to her, she occasionally expresses her state of mind in extremely drunk, drug addict and bloody way. She has understanding, medical care, even money, houses, food. Those are material things that make life more tolerable and calmer /to some extent in her case/, whether we want to admit it, or not! Arguably, the abuse she mentioned herself / if true, then for sure / may have contributed to this, otherwise, it's only her mental state and character that contribute to her condition and nothing else! As for the fans, I believe that there are much more ones who understood the situation and who did not accuse her of any infidelity than those who did. It affected the children more, because no matter what your mother is like (which doesn't necessarily mean that everything about her is true), when someone mentions your mother it bothers you, you always have to say the best about about someone mother, especially from the mouths of Eminem's fans and he was not a saint himself! The children are close to him, but they are much closer to Kim, after all, they lived with her, and they both had nasty problems. It should be wached back at how it was few years ago, not in present. Now everyone paints themselves as they want, when they want and with whom they want, because they are adults, they have their own interests and understand why they have to present themselves to the public in that way, etc., etc., etc.. Judging the situation by photos where everyone is smiling is very wrong!
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 11, 2024 4:59:24 GMT -5
Kim has done incomparably, more bad things to her life than others have done to her, she occasionally expresses her state of mind in extremely drunk, drug addict and bloody way. She has understanding, medical care, even money, houses, food. Those are material things that make life more tolerable and calmer /to some extent in her case/, whether we want to admit it, or not! Arguably, the abuse she mentioned herself / if true, then for sure / may have contributed to this, otherwise, it's only her mental state and character that contribute to her condition and nothing else! As for the fans, I believe that there are much more ones who understood the situation and who did not accuse her of any infidelity than those who did. It affected the children more, because no matter what your mother is like (which doesn't necessarily mean that everything about her is true), when someone mentions your mother it bothers you, you always have to say the best about about someone mother, especially from the mouths of Eminem's fans and he was not a saint himself! The children are close to him, but they are much closer to Kim, after all, they lived with her, and they both had nasty problems. It should be wached back at how it was few years ago, not in present. Now everyone paints themselves as they want, when they want and with whom they want, because they are adults, they have their own interests and understand why they have to present themselves to the public in that way, etc., etc., etc.. Judging the situation by photos where everyone is smiling is very wrong! I agree with you to some extent.Yeah this whole situation or what had been said about Kim did affect the kids for sure but all i wanted to say is that i don't hate Kim in any way, i don't judge her etc. All i did is to express my opinion,i've seen online people who say mean things ab Kim when she doesn't deserve it and i never said Em's a saint, he's not, both of them had/have their issues and so on, and i don't judge the situation only by photos (which can go both ways) although is the only thing we have as "info".So, according to you Hailie only danced with her dad at her wedding and pretended to be happy only for the sake of the photo? The kids only act happy around him just bc of the public eye?I don't think so... for ex Hailie is always next to him,named the podcast after him and so on and visits him often. I don't doubt that they are closer to their mom but still..also the kids didn't only live with her, they lived with him too half the time since they had shared custody but that's besides the point.Plus if we look at a situation from a few years ago, what would it matter? The past is the past , we can't change it, that's why personally i prefer to speak in present terms for ex now Kim and Em are on good terms, he's sober (idk about her) and so on. So, why talk about the past or bring on a narrative that is not relevant anymore? At least , that's my point of view. |
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Post by space on Aug 11, 2024 7:53:13 GMT -5
Children are adults, everything works differently now, because the circumstances have changed, they were happy, but also angry, more than once b.c., they did not understand the events around them, how something works in some other world, cause-and-effect relationship, between two something/someone! Now it's a more polished, more like an interest, I am NOT saying that there is no love and most importantly, but like a little more understanding for his condition was missing from the beginning and even now. I am/ was not comment/ed her dancing and laughing in photos. There are probably still problems in the family on both sides, that's why everything is behind closed doors and maybe it's better that way, b.c., then problems serve for entertainment and profit for tabloids/paparazzi and more pressure and damage is created to main protagonist/s.
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 11, 2024 9:25:28 GMT -5
Children are adults, everything works differently now, because the circumstances have changed, they were happy, but also angry, more than once b.c., they did not understand the events around them, how something works in some other world, cause-and-effect relationship, between two something/someone! Now it's a more polished, more like an interest, I am NOT saying that there is no love and most importantly, but like a little more understanding for his condition was missing from the beginning and even now. I am/ was not comment/ed her dancing and laughing in photos. There are probably still problems in the family on both sides, that's why everything is behind closed doors and maybe it's better that way, b.c., then problems serve for entertainment and profit for tabloids/paparazzi and more pressure and damage is created to main protagonist/s. Yeah i agree with you , circumstances have changed and i feel that the girls are more understanding on the whole situation , like what their parents have been through and since they are adults now they might know better than when they were young idk.They seem to enjoy their lives. I don't think there is much interest after all (there definitely is but not that much),like from what i've seen and heard,like looking at the overall picture, Hailie loves and is close with both her parents genuinely imo,maybe Alaina too,but they might also profit from their dad's fame/money. And yeah i'm sure that there might still be problems , hope not tho, but i also think it's better that it's behind close doors. I'm sorry if i don't understand fully your message since english is not my first language. Also what i asked about the wedding pic is bc you said that since they're adults they can paint themselves how they want, that's why i asked if you think they pretend to be happy or having a great time with him, only for the public eye when in reality they might hate him or not care about him at all,and i said that i don't agree with this,again is just my opinion. Also what you mean with a little more understanding was missing for his condition? What "condition" did he have? |
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Post by space on Aug 11, 2024 13:30:28 GMT -5
What condition did he have?! Getting pills, mixing with alcohol, with fame (read extreme stress, lack of sleep), some other things, personal problems etc.,etc.,etc.. He still suffers from the consequences to this day. He had to go through a lot, by his own to get better, and that's why he's better, paradoxically! I was very polite, I could say it in one short sentence, but it's not my style and some people wouldn't like it!
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 11, 2024 13:54:40 GMT -5
What condition did he have?! Getting pills, mixing with alcohol, with fame (read extreme stress, lack of sleep), some other things, personal problems etc.,etc.,etc.. He still suffers from the consequences to this day. He had to go through a lot, by his own to get better, and that's why he's better, paradoxically! I was very polite, I could say it in one short sentence, but it's not my style and some people wouldn't like it! Well , it's not really a "condition" but anyway, i agree he went through a lot by himself,so did Kim,in both their lives since childhood,that's why i don't judge them in any way and say stuff like "he/she was the horrible husband/wife",they were how they were.I'm kinda happy that he managed to overcome his addiction and save himself. Tho idk how helpful would Hailie and the others would've been at that time tbh,that's why i say that the girls seem to have a better understanding towards them now ,as adults and that they're close with both of them.No one said you weren't polite , you were very nice and i'm sorry if i came out rude in any way. I didn't intend it. Weirdly , i have to write paragraphs only to be sure i made myself clear 😅 In the end , do you think that the girls are close with him? Or at least like him or they just pretend to be happy around him? |
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Post by space on Aug 11, 2024 14:08:16 GMT -5
I didn't think you were rude, you were polite. I wrote that I didn't want to "express myself more directly" in one sentence.
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 11, 2024 16:55:57 GMT -5
I didn't think you were rude, you were polite. I wrote that I didn't want to "express myself more directly" in one sentence. Oh , then i'm sorry for the misunderstanding and thanks for your time. |
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 21, 2024 0:19:20 GMT -5
They don't want it to be known about financial aid (loan), rehabilitation, any relationship and help, which exists from time to time, because who will help her, if not them (him)! She does not work anywhere! M. is not alone in this, does not decide for himself and he doesn't like it! Moving to a smaller house was reasonable. She is helped but also given suggestions on how to reduce costs (smaller house), etc., etc., she is a smoker, good that she showed her face, that can be seen that she is alive and better than usual no matter what she looks like, she didn't say anything that is not known! Everything is hidden and nothing is as it seems. It is normal for family members to say the best about each other in public, to remove any doubt and curious looks, it is, a general rule! His weakness is social cases (if we are talking about money), he likes to help, but some take advantage of that! I agree with some of this but with other some i have some doubts: how do you know that Em doesn't decide for himself or that he doesn't like it or that he's not alone in this? He's a celeb , that's true but he's still human and can make a decision himself. And even you said he likes to help. What they can possibly hide that "nothing's as it seems"? We already know that they have 3 kids for ex,or a majority of other stuff. "they have to say the best ab each other in public" So when Kim said that she and Em are on good terms , she lied. Same about when he said it for ex. Or when they said they're good parents ab each other. From what i saw Kim still trashed him on FB or said mean things ab him, so i don't think they say good things ab each other only for the public eye. And when Em made that song apologising to her he sounded genuine and imo he's most truthful in his music.I will say tho , she might be hiding/lying ab her mental health. I think that he just wants to help her bc he cares ab her and maybe feels guilty for what he did..and i'm happy to hear she's doing better.Also that they are on good terms, or acknowledged ab each other that they're good parents. |
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Post by me on Aug 21, 2024 2:08:00 GMT -5
They don't want it to be known about financial aid (loan), rehabilitation, any relationship and help, which exists from time to time, because who will help her, if not them (him)! She does not work anywhere! M. is not alone in this, does not decide for himself and he doesn't like it! Moving to a smaller house was reasonable. She is helped but also given suggestions on how to reduce costs (smaller house), etc., etc., she is a smoker, good that she showed her face, that can be seen that she is alive and better than usual no matter what she looks like, she didn't say anything that is not known! Everything is hidden and nothing is as it seems. It is normal for family members to say the best about each other in public, to remove any doubt and curious looks, it is, a general rule! His weakness is social cases (if we are talking about money), he likes to help, but some take advantage of that! I agree with some of this but with other some i have some doubts: how do you know that Em doesn't decide for himself or that he doesn't like it or that he's not alone in this? He's a celeb , that's true but he's still human and can make a decision himself. And even you said he likes to help. What they can possibly hide that "nothing's as it seems"? We already know that they have 3 kids for ex,or a majority of other stuff. "they have to say the best ab each other in public" So when Kim said that she and Em are on good terms , she lied. Same about when he said it for ex. Or when they said they're good parents ab each other. From what i saw Kim still trashed him on FB or said mean things ab him, so i don't think they say good things ab each other only for the public eye. And when Em made that song apologising to her he sounded genuine and imo he's most truthful in his music.I think that he just wants to help her bc he cares ab her and maybe feels guilty for what he did..and i'm happy to hear she's doing better.Also that they are on good terms, or acknowledged ab each other that they're good parents. I also think he trashed her in the early days, not really knowing what an impact it had on his fans, he showed them it’s okay to be mean to her and disrespect her in any way, he even said it himself he was shocked to see how his fans treated her, that it was not okay and he was the only one that was allowed to talk about her. So I think he probably also publicly apologized to her to show his fans it’s not okay to disrespect her and that he doesn’t feel like that any more |
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 21, 2024 11:10:13 GMT -5
I agree with some of this but with other some i have some doubts: how do you know that Em doesn't decide for himself or that he doesn't like it or that he's not alone in this? He's a celeb , that's true but he's still human and can make a decision himself. And even you said he likes to help. What they can possibly hide that "nothing's as it seems"? We already know that they have 3 kids for ex,or a majority of other stuff. "they have to say the best ab each other in public" So when Kim said that she and Em are on good terms , she lied. Same about when he said it for ex. Or when they said they're good parents ab each other. From what i saw Kim still trashed him on FB or said mean things ab him, so i don't think they say good things ab each other only for the public eye. And when Em made that song apologising to her he sounded genuine and imo he's most truthful in his music.I think that he just wants to help her bc he cares ab her and maybe feels guilty for what he did..and i'm happy to hear she's doing better.Also that they are on good terms, or acknowledged ab each other that they're good parents. I also think he trashed her in the early days, not really knowing what an impact it had on his fans, he showed them it’s okay to be mean to her and disrespect her in any way, he even said it himself he was shocked to see how his fans treated her, that it was not okay and he was the only one that was allowed to talk about her. So I think he probably also publicly apologized to her to show his fans it’s not okay to disrespect her and that he doesn’t feel like that any more I agree,i know he did that in the early days,maybe without knowing (since he said that he didn't imagine getting so famous at the time).. it was horrible of him, that's true and there's no excuse,that's why i said i think he felt guilty and apologised. To me he sounded genuine,even more with helping her out and not talking ab her anymore (like not in a bad way).I think since around 2010 he hinted that he's sorry for how he treated her. I also think he did it for the fans too , like to let them know somehow that he's moved on and matured.That's why he said he doesn't have that rage anymore and that "he's changed, he's not the same as he was at 28 yrs old".. But Kim was talking ab him more recently and i personally think she may still have some resentment towards him, which is understandable.I just wanted to point out that Kim was mean/salty to him in recent years,which kinda shows that she doesn't speak good on him just for the public eye. Do you think he made that songs or talked positively ab her only for the media? Genuinely asking. |
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Post by thepanpotato on Aug 27, 2024 14:51:02 GMT -5
Ok. That video with Mike, I felt that Em got nervous and got wrong Hailie’s age. Lying sometimes is sign of being nervous. He can’t talk about his son ( this is my opinion and if you don’t agree with me it’s ok)but he didn’t mention him because he hasn’t recognized him to the public in first place. For the general public he only has 3 daughters. However, if you keep watching his interview, Em said raising kids and not daughters is his biggest accomplishment.’ Considering that his daughters are adult women and he said kids instead of daughters Em low key confirmed me that he included Parker without mentioning him.🥰 And I think I already proved you enough proof from 2010 that Em was perfectly in good terms with Kim. He even made a video for their love story( love the way you lie) And there’s no way a possessive man like him will be this ok knowing that his ex betrayed him again. The kid, looks like him when he was a kid and there’s no father or family who has called the press and say” that’s my son.” Never! The antis tried to say that Austin was his dad but their lies faded away when we saw Em walking with Austin, which means that this person worked for him or is his family from Betty’s side or Nate’s side. And it’s not only me that thinks like this and nope, I’m not crazy for thinking like this. My opinion has so much common sense considering their dysfunctional relationship off and on all their life. This is not a theory, this is my opinion. 💪❤️ I just saw this and i would like to express my opinion too: I agree that Em got nervous in the interview with Mike, after all Em said it was a huge deal for him, and maybe that's why he got wrong Hailie's age (altho i think it was an honest mistake too bc he's human after all, doesn't mean he "lied" on purpose). I don't believe that Parker is his son, imo he looks nothing like Em. To me, just bc he said he's proud of raising "kids" instead of daughters ( without mattering their adults) doesn't mean he's Parker's dad. My parents refer to me and my sister (both girls) as kids all the time, doesn't mean automatically they have a secret son. Maybe Eminem acknowledged "3 daughters" bc that's what he has.Maybe he didn't recognize Parker as his kid bc it's not his,nor has any responsability for him.Same thing with that Tracy drama, maybe he denied the relationship bc he never actually dated her. Eminem said himself since 2010 that him and Kim are on good terms, that's a reason i believe they helped each other out, especially since they already had 3 kids together. Also how do you know that Parker was not claimed by his dad? Maybe he didn't want to do it publicly bc it's none of our bussiness, same thing with Kim, did she call the press to announce she's pregnant? Correct me if i'm wrong.. As much as your theory (yes it's a theory) is plausible, at the same time it's improbable bc Kim said before that she doesn't love him anymore and maybe found someone else that time( just like in the case with Stevie) and i never seen many "think like this" (no offense). According to your logic, Em is only allowed to say "daughters", otherwise if he used a term like "children/kids" that's a confirmation he has a secret son, which is not like that. In my humble opinion, Eminem only acknowledged his 3 daughters bc that's what he actually has and nothing more,i think he knows better what children he has better that us, the theory that Parker is his son is only a speculation, and just bc he said "kids" instead of daughters is not proof nor confirmation for that. Again, this is only my point of view, feel free to disagree. |
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Post by annie18 on Aug 27, 2024 19:23:27 GMT -5
Ok. That video with Mike, I felt that Em got nervous and got wrong Hailie’s age. Lying sometimes is sign of being nervous. He can’t talk about his son ( this is my opinion and if you don’t agree with me it’s ok)but he didn’t mention him because he hasn’t recognized him to the public in first place. For the general public he only has 3 daughters. However, if you keep watching his interview, Em said raising kids and not daughters is his biggest accomplishment.’ Considering that his daughters are adult women and he said kids instead of daughters Em low key confirmed me that he included Parker without mentioning him.🥰 And I think I already proved you enough proof from 2010 that Em was perfectly in good terms with Kim. He even made a video for their love story( love the way you lie) And there’s no way a possessive man like him will be this ok knowing that his ex betrayed him again. The kid, looks like him when he was a kid and there’s no father or family who has called the press and say” that’s my son.” Never! The antis tried to say that Austin was his dad but their lies faded away when we saw Em walking with Austin, which means that this person worked for him or is his family from Betty’s side or Nate’s side. And it’s not only me that thinks like this and nope, I’m not crazy for thinking like this. My opinion has so much common sense considering their dysfunctional relationship off and on all their life. This is not a theory, this is my opinion. 💪❤️ I just saw this and i would like to express my opinion too: I agree that Em got nervous in the interview with Mike, after all Em said it was a huge deal for him, and maybe that's why he got wrong Hailie's age (altho i think it was an honest mistake too bc he's human after all, doesn't mean he "lied" on purpose). I don't believe that Parker is his son, imo he looks nothing like Em. To me, just bc he said he's proud of raising "kids" instead of daughters ( without mattering their adults) doesn't mean he's Parker's dad. My parents refer to me and my sister (both girls) as kids all the time, doesn't mean automatically they have a secret son. Maybe Eminem acknowledged "3 daughters" bc that's what he has.Maybe he didn't recognize Parker as his kid bc it's not his,nor has any responsability for him.Same thing with that Tracy drama, maybe he denied the relationship bc he never actually dated her. Eminem said himself since 2010 that him and Kim are on good terms, that's a reason i believe they helped each other out, especially since they already had 3 kids together. Also how do you know that Parker was not claimed by his dad? Maybe he didn't want to do it publicly bc it's none of our bussiness, same thing with Kim, did she call the press to announce she's pregnant? Correct me if i'm wrong.. As much as your theory (yes it's a theory) is plausible, at the same time it's improbable bc Kim said before that she doesn't love him anymore and maybe found someone else that time( just like in the case with Stevie) and i never seen many "think like this" (no offense). According to your logic, Em is only allowed to say "daughters", otherwise if he used a term like "children/kids" that's a confirmation he has a secret son, which is not like that. In my humble opinion, Eminem only acknowledged his 3 daughters bc that's what he actually has and nothing more,i think he knows better what children he has better that us, the theory that Parker is his son is only a speculation, and just bc he said "kids" instead of daughters is not proof nor confirmation for that. Again, this is only my point of view, feel free to disagree. Sorry but the person you're quoting is no longer in this forum, she was making wild claims making things out and being disrepectful to people who disagreed with her. Just to let you know if you're waiting for a response |
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