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Post by vickvaporub on Oct 3, 2022 22:41:49 GMT -5
When I click it says the page is unavailable. What does it say? Do you know it's her real ig? I think I've mentioned my ex was in rehab at the same time as her? Well he was. They didn't really talk because men and women are separated. But he always said how nice she was and that she'd volunteer to help with dinner prep and clean-up. And that he felt bad for her because everyone knew she was Eminem's ex-wife so AA wasn't really anonymous for her. I have always rooted for Kim and I hoped with financial security and no pressure to hold a job or worry about sending the kids to college she'd be able to find happiness. It's a post from her "supposed" FB (the people that share these posts insist they are legit but who knows, take it with a grain of salt)  |
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Post by tcat on Oct 3, 2022 23:05:11 GMT -5
When I click it says the page is unavailable. What does it say? Do you know it's her real ig? I think I've mentioned my ex was in rehab at the same time as her? Well he was. They didn't really talk because men and women are separated. But he always said how nice she was and that she'd volunteer to help with dinner prep and clean-up. And that he felt bad for her because everyone knew she was Eminem's ex-wife so AA wasn't really anonymous for her. I have always rooted for Kim and I hoped with financial security and no pressure to hold a job or worry about sending the kids to college she'd be able to find happiness. It's a post from her "supposed" FB (the people that share these posts insist they are legit but who knows, take it with a grain of salt) So I guess she's not really doing better. Looks like she's still struggling. That's sad. I wish she could find some peace and happiness. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Oct 4, 2022 0:20:58 GMT -5
When I click it says the page is unavailable. What does it say? Do you know it's her real ig? I think I've mentioned my ex was in rehab at the same time as her? Well he was. They didn't really talk because men and women are separated. But he always said how nice she was and that she'd volunteer to help with dinner prep and clean-up. And that he felt bad for her because everyone knew she was Eminem's ex-wife so AA wasn't really anonymous for her. I have always rooted for Kim and I hoped with financial security and no pressure to hold a job or worry about sending the kids to college she'd be able to find happiness. I remember in that interview she did she said the money is great you can get the kids anything they want, but it doesn't keep your husband at home at night and it doesn't make you happy. I really do think his success in the limelight was part of her undoing. She never seemed to fully get back on track. I remember her saying she wanted to go to school for interior design after that second divorce, but I guess after having a child with disabilities she never could make that happen, or maybe she decided she didn't want to work. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Oct 4, 2022 11:08:45 GMT -5
When I click it says the page is unavailable. What does it say? Do you know it's her real ig? I think I've mentioned my ex was in rehab at the same time as her? Well he was. They didn't really talk because men and women are separated. But he always said how nice she was and that she'd volunteer to help with dinner prep and clean-up. And that he felt bad for her because everyone knew she was Eminem's ex-wife so AA wasn't really anonymous for her. I have always rooted for Kim and I hoped with financial security and no pressure to hold a job or worry about sending the kids to college she'd be able to find happiness. Was your ex in rehab with her after the first divorce in 2001 or after the second divorce in 2006? |
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Post by sparrow on Oct 4, 2022 11:10:28 GMT -5
When I click it says the page is unavailable. What does it say? Do you know it's her real ig? I think I've mentioned my ex was in rehab at the same time as her? Well he was. They didn't really talk because men and women are separated. But he always said how nice she was and that she'd volunteer to help with dinner prep and clean-up. And that he felt bad for her because everyone knew she was Eminem's ex-wife so AA wasn't really anonymous for her. I have always rooted for Kim and I hoped with financial security and no pressure to hold a job or worry about sending the kids to college she'd be able to find happiness. Was your ex in rehab with her after the first divorce in 2001 or after the second divorce in 2006? Second. |
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Post by tcat on Oct 4, 2022 15:17:23 GMT -5
Was your ex in rehab with her after the first divorce in 2001 or after the second divorce in 2006? Second. wasn't it around the time her son was born? 2010 or 2011? I thought I read that somewhere. |
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Post by stefanie on Oct 5, 2022 0:55:25 GMT -5
wasn't it around the time her son was born? 2010 or 2011? I thought I read that somewhere. Could be wrong but wasn't someone saying she was pregnant in rehab? |
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Post by sparrow on Oct 5, 2022 1:51:48 GMT -5
Sorry, I don't know what year it was. My ex said his drug problem began in 2008 so it would have been after that. 2010-2011 is just an approximation. He was in and out of rehab at that time himself and might have gotten the date wrong. If she was pregnant she wasn't showing. I don't know any of the circumstances of why she was there except obviously she was struggling with substance abuse at that time.
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Post by josie78 on Nov 3, 2022 8:56:38 GMT -5
Is it okay to respond here or move it to another thread? I believe there are multiple reasons why he’s so insecure at this stage in his life. Again it goes back to no one tells you what happens when all of your dreams come true. All of your old problems and struggles get replaced with new ones. You saw at the beginning he began to create his own safety bubble. He has stayed in there, the only real changes are those inside. He hasn’t done anything to expand himself the way others have done. He puts so much of himself in to the hands of others because his insecurities, inability to handle particular things. I’d rather see him lose money taking risks he believes in, instead of Paul’s dumb label and other artists. I do think his one real space of confidence is in his talent, writing ability. He needs to diversify, create more. He said acting drained him, Why not produce more? Do more soundtracks? Get Royce a McDonald’s application? As for Kim, I understand where you’re coming from but one thing we teach in therapy is we can’t compare someone else’s pain, trauma or existence. If we get in a car accident and I break both arms, you break both legs, We can’t argue over who is hurt the most or compare who has it worse because we both had that painful, traumatic experience. Minimizing someone’s trauma, pain, problems because of their resources is dangerous. We don’t know what’s going on inside of them. Not everyone has the ability to see the light. Look at Oprah, she has all the access to trainers, chefs, nutritionists but she still yoyo’s with her weight. All the money in the world can’t heal a person or get them to heal themselves. It has to come from deeply within. I love this post. This is all speculation as usual but I have a feeling with Kim a lot of her deal is that no one has really ever taken care of her emotionally. Not her parents, relatives, friends, lovers, not anyone. Ppl say no one has anything good to say about Kim, my question is has she ever had someone who saw her as a person with value? Her kids are probably the closest thing and that's not their role. I'm sure Em tried his best for someone else who didn't know how to love and had terrible coping skills but it was sporadic and ffs he used a blow-up doll to represent her in front of millions of people. She has money now but being Em's psycho ex haunts her like a damn ghost. I wonder if she has ever been able to break the pattern of instability and trauma bonding with people who also aren't emotionally equipped to treat her well. I hope she has been able to get some therapy that wasn't court mandated. Then the addiction issues. Em has the whole world supporting him, she has people waiting for her to fail so they can go oh there's crazy Kim again. Idk. I've always felt for her. As for Em, I do feel like he's done a lot of self-work. He's talked about his own therapy and I hear program (AA) themes in the way he speaks sometimes. He also has a calmness to him now that he didn't before when he was anxious and frenetic 24/7. I think he's probably on meds that work for him. I absolutely 100% think though that he has deep seated issues with getting approval from other people. He's admitted that getting respect is what drives him...and it's a slippery slope between respect and people pleasing. It's weird to think about Em as someone who can be a doormat, as aggressive as he can be in other ways. But wherever you fall on if Paul is overall good or bad for him, does anyone think Em would stand firm on not doing something if Paul and the team really put the pressure on him? Laid it on thick and said if he missed out on this he'd regret it forever? Maybe implied that if he retires now it will look bad? Thst he's letting people down because his peers and Paul's shitty new acts are part of Em's legacy too as the shady records namesake? It's dangerous imo bc they probably could squeeze another tour out of him if they tried hard enough. I feel like that's his last stand, his big boundary, and I hope he holds firm. As for the children of the corn eyes. Him staring at ppl seems to be a recurring theme. I've heard it enough over the years to believe it. I feel like we saw it to a certain extent with his behavior in the bored ape promo with Snoop when he looked miserable. Maybe he wasn't miserable; maybe he just dropped the veneer and we saw the thousand yard gaze he always has. I don't like to speculate on that too much because it leads to armchair psychological diagnoses I'm not qualified to make, but something is going on there. I don't think he gets out of his own head very much. Hi sparrow! I hope it’s okay that I’m quoting you here from the other thread but I felt the post/conversation has a lot of good discussion and information in it. I honestly believe no one has ever taken care of Kim’s emotional needs nor have many if any saw her as a person of value. We can only speculate but I don’t think any self work has happened where necessary. I’m sure a lot of people don’t want to hear this but she has shown a lot of good qualities and emotional intelligence over the years. Sure, she gave a few immature radio interviews but what can you expect? She never wanted to be famous, I’ve always believed her when she said that. With the Jenny drama, unlike most people out there she was able to separate someone’s sexual behavior and who they are as a parent, around children. I thought that was an overlooked moment. She showed some poise with the producer of that Dr Keith show too. I also believe all the bad things Kim told Debbie that happened to her. Why? Because drugs aren’t the problem. It’s what you’re numbing that’s the problem. She and her twin seemed to have a lot of trauma, pain that they were trying to escape from. |
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Post by alphagirl01 on Nov 3, 2022 10:22:29 GMT -5
I love this post. This is all speculation as usual but I have a feeling with Kim a lot of her deal is that no one has really ever taken care of her emotionally. Not her parents, relatives, friends, lovers, not anyone. Ppl say no one has anything good to say about Kim, my question is has she ever had someone who saw her as a person with value? Her kids are probably the closest thing and that's not their role. I'm sure Em tried his best for someone else who didn't know how to love and had terrible coping skills but it was sporadic and ffs he used a blow-up doll to represent her in front of millions of people. She has money now but being Em's psycho ex haunts her like a damn ghost. I wonder if she has ever been able to break the pattern of instability and trauma bonding with people who also aren't emotionally equipped to treat her well. I hope she has been able to get some therapy that wasn't court mandated. Then the addiction issues. Em has the whole world supporting him, she has people waiting for her to fail so they can go oh there's crazy Kim again. Idk. I've always felt for her. As for Em, I do feel like he's done a lot of self-work. He's talked about his own therapy and I hear program (AA) themes in the way he speaks sometimes. He also has a calmness to him now that he didn't before when he was anxious and frenetic 24/7. I think he's probably on meds that work for him. I absolutely 100% think though that he has deep seated issues with getting approval from other people. He's admitted that getting respect is what drives him...and it's a slippery slope between respect and people pleasing. It's weird to think about Em as someone who can be a doormat, as aggressive as he can be in other ways. But wherever you fall on if Paul is overall good or bad for him, does anyone think Em would stand firm on not doing something if Paul and the team really put the pressure on him? Laid it on thick and said if he missed out on this he'd regret it forever? Maybe implied that if he retires now it will look bad? Thst he's letting people down because his peers and Paul's shitty new acts are part of Em's legacy too as the shady records namesake? It's dangerous imo bc they probably could squeeze another tour out of him if they tried hard enough. I feel like that's his last stand, his big boundary, and I hope he holds firm. As for the children of the corn eyes. Him staring at ppl seems to be a recurring theme. I've heard it enough over the years to believe it. I feel like we saw it to a certain extent with his behavior in the bored ape promo with Snoop when he looked miserable. Maybe he wasn't miserable; maybe he just dropped the veneer and we saw the thousand yard gaze he always has. I don't like to speculate on that too much because it leads to armchair psychological diagnoses I'm not qualified to make, but something is going on there. I don't think he gets out of his own head very much. Hi sparrow! I hope it’s okay that I’m quoting you here from the other thread but I felt the post/conversation has a lot of good discussion and information in it. I honestly believe no one has ever taken care of Kim’s emotional needs nor have many if any saw her as a person of value. We can only speculate but I don’t think any self work has happened where necessary. I’m sure a lot of people don’t want to hear this but she has shown a lot of good qualities and emotional intelligence over the years. Sure, she gave a few immature radio interviews but what can you expect? She never wanted to be famous, I’ve always believed her when she said that. With the Jenny drama, unlike most people out there she was able to separate someone’s sexual behavior and who they are as a parent, around children. I thought that was an overlooked moment. She showed some poise with the producer of that Dr Keith show too. I also believe all the bad things Kim told Debbie that happened to her. Why? Because drugs aren’t the problem. It’s what you’re numbing that’s the problem. She and her twin seemed to have a lot of trauma, pain that they were trying to escape from. I believe the part about her abuse as well. Even if you believe Marshall's lyrics "Is This Love" when he says he has never been with a virgin. Well, we know he met Kim at 13, so odds are she had already been abused by that time, and those lyrics would make sense. It's very sad that her and her sister had to endure something like that and their predator not be brought to justice. I think the reason they were even in a group home was because they were removed from her mother's house because of the abuse and fate brought her as a runaway to the house party Marshall was at, they met and she moved in with him and his mom. Supposedly Dawn moved in for a while as well. I wonder why that didn't last. |
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Post by sparrow on Nov 3, 2022 10:55:08 GMT -5
Jenny also said that Em suddenly went no contact when he was done with her and same thing with Brittany. IIRC Kim said she found out about the (2nd?) divorce bc he just didn't come home one day and next thing she knew she was served with divorce papers.
Em ghosted before it was a thing. I wonder if he's matured enough to tell someone goodbye now or if it's even worse. I can understand ghosting a groupie or something (still shitty tho) but jfc the wife and mother of your kids deserves a conversation.
Anyway it didn't surprise me that he did that and I'm not quite sure why. It's like he can make all these grand gestures in song and on the stage, but when it comes to one on one conflict where he has to hurt and leave someone and see them cry he doesn't want to deal with it.
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Post by alphagirl01 on Nov 3, 2022 11:10:14 GMT -5
Jenny also said that Em suddenly went no contact when he was done with her and same thing with Brittany. IIRC Kim said she found out about the (2nd?) divorce bc he just didn't come home one day and next thing she knew she was served with divorce papers. Em ghosted before it was a thing. I wonder if he's matured enough to tell someone goodbye now or if it's even worse. I can understand ghosting a groupie or something (still shitty tho) but jfc the wife and mother of your kids deserves a conversation. Anyway it didn't surprise me that he did that and I'm not quite sure why. It's like he can make all these grand gestures in song and on the stage, but when it comes to one on one conflict where he has to hurt and leave someone and see them cry he doesn't want to deal with it. I think a lot of guys are ghosters, I have to admit though, I kind of understand it, although it is wrong. But, if you just don't want to deal with the drama or emotions, you figure if you just ghost, they get the picture. I've never ghosted anyone, but I can understand why people do it. But I agree, what he did to Kim was wrong on so many levels. You do not ghost your wife and mother of your children. You know you have to see her again on top of it! My thing is, it was even worse because according to Kim they got in an argument over Nate and he left a note saying he was going to the other house and think things through and he never came back. Proof died and she said she tried to be there for him and he wouldn't even respond. Like you would expect him to need that support, but, I guess he went through that alone or with his friends. But, I never understood them having two homes in the same area anyway. I thought that was awfully convenient for him. I'm still curious about what the argument over Nate was about, because that must have been a doozy for him to walk away and not look back. I remember her in the interview saying Nate said something inappropriate or was being disrespectful. Then the police getting called on him for poking Alaina in the head and him supposedly saying she was trying to break up him and Kim. Like he walked out, how is that Alaina's fault? Yes, a lot of unanswered questions. |
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Post by josie78 on Nov 4, 2022 19:10:31 GMT -5
Absolutely. I think he lacks the proper emotional tools and coping mechanisms to properly handle certain situations. He was never taught proper, healthy communication skills.
I’d love to know the answer to all of above too!
And if Jenny’s kids ever got to hang out with him again lol
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Post by alphagirl01 on Jan 21, 2023 17:14:36 GMT -5
Has anyone seen this documentary on Eminem and Kim? It was just posted on Youtube a few days ago.
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Post by Admin on Jan 22, 2023 1:14:57 GMT -5
Has anyone seen this documentary on Eminem and Kim? It was just posted on Youtube a fe days ago. Not yet, but I'll check it out. |
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